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Re: The Complete Continuity Match-Up Checklist: from Baxter to Levitz Relaunch (revised)
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"Super-hypnosis" is normally a term used for Supergirl, not for Saturn Girl, so that would be consistent with the Adventure Comics version. (Which was issue 334, 333 for the letter column).

I think the idea in Adventure Comics was that they couldn't use Saturn Girl because Superboy was invulnerable. That's why in #350-351 they actually inserted a piece of Kryptonite into Superbpy's and Supergirl's brains to make them forget, rather than using Saturn Girl.

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Re: The Complete Continuity Match-Up Checklist: from Baxter to Levitz Relaunch (revised)
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Silver Age Kryptonians could officially only be hypnotized/mind-controlled by other Kryptonians or by exploiting one of their standard weaknesses (kryptonite, magic, etc.). This became somewhat looser in the Bronze Age.

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Iam: Thanks for looking it up.

Many changes to the list:
  • Saturn Girl making Supergirl and Superboy forget the future are considered changes from the original series.
  • I just read Superman and the Legion, so added a mention that Batman is stated to remember JLA #147-148.
  • Hyphenation of Spider-Girl.
  • The idea that the Legion had flight rings when they recruited Superboy and didn't have permission to use the time bubble is now listed as from Action Comics, not Secret Origin.
  • The xenophobia on Earth is a retcon, but not in Action Comics (which describes it as a new phenomenon), only in Secret Origin (which has it take place when Superboy was inducted).
  • Mentioning new Emerald Empress from the annuual. Time will tell whether this actually explains the appearance of the Empress in L3W, but I suspect not.
  • Mention that DCU:Legacies seems to show pre-Crisis Kara.
  • Kara's flight ring in Lightning Saga. It was almost certainly not thought out to this extent, but...
  • Sun Girl's name is not from a comic book.

Re: The Complete Continuity Match-Up Checklist: from Baxter to Levitz Relaunch (revised)
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Saturn Girl used her powers on Superboy in Legion of super-heroes 259, she also said it was a post-hyponotic command in 280 to keep him in his own century. Also in Legion of Super-Heroes 282 she removes the whole psycho-warrior incident from his memories.

The First she does it without his permission and every legionnaire knows she does and approves. The 2nd she does it with his permission and also every legionnaire approves.

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It is stated in this story that when Superboy himself returns to the 20th century, some years before Supergirl's time, he always forgets about her existence due to a post-hypnotic suggestion that she gave him. (This is a fact that is corrupted in post-Silver lore, which incorrectly attributes the post-hypnotic suggestion to Saturn Girl rather than Supergirl).


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Saturn Girl used her powers on Superboy in Legion of super-heroes 259, she also said it was a post-hyponotic command in 280 to keep him in his own century. Also in Legion of Super-Heroes 282 she removes the whole psycho-warrior incident from his memories.
I'm not next to my comics right now, but in 259 she gives him a command to stay in his century--not to forget. It is already assumed that staying in his century would make him forget without her having to do anything more to cause that. 280 sounds like the same thing.

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but she did use her powers on him without his permission no?


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i think the trust comes from he understood it was for the good/best intent to save him pain and ulitmately the intergrity of the timeline...after all he's "guilty" of the same thing sometimes with the legion like when Mr. Mxyzptlk killed them he never told them that they died. So They've all been guilty of hiding things from each other.


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Does anyone know where Sun Girl's real name was stated? (Wikipedia isn't all that reliable on these matters.) I mean issue and page.
These are her apperances and i believe her name reveal is in her first appearance

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http://titanstower.com/source/whoswho/sungirl.html


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These are her apperances and i believe her name reveal is in her first appearance
Do you have a page and panel?

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no sorry i don't have the comic with me (at work)


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It's in the Wizard article and in Wikipedia, so I already know it's been mentioned outside comic books, I just wanted to know if it was ever in a comic book. I guess that's answered now.

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Take it for what it's worth but in his Newsarama interview Levitz gives us a pretty good idea how many years have elapsed since we last saw "his Legion."

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"I mean, I could have a handbook showing — I said it was 26 — so I could just say, "Here are the 26 and what I envision about the order in which they joined and the continuity of the last five years since the last time thing(s) went on. . But a little bit of decoding is fun."

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Minor updates for Legion of Three Worlds--basically non-retcon events that needed to be mentioned. Deaths of other Legions' members, name of Saturn Queen, Garth's body in the reboot. Also noticed that Sarya was named, which means that the Emerald Empress in L3W is not the new one.

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While we're at it, does anyone know what the deal is with the destruction of all the Green Lanterns in Legion of Three Worlds? It wasn't done by Superboy-Prime (who killed 55 in the 21st century, not the whole sert in the 31st) and the Legionnaires react as though it's a recent event.

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Added the revelation that Daxamites live hundreds of years (Superman Secret Files 2009). Amazing how I keep finding this stuff.

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Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
While we're at it, does anyone know what the deal is with the destruction of all the Green Lanterns in Legion of Three Worlds? It wasn't done by Superboy-Prime (who killed 55 in the 21st century, not the whole sert in the 31st) and the Legionnaires react as though it's a recent event.
This event hasn't happened yet in regular continuity. I think this was meant as a set-up for a future Geoff Johns GL project.

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Rokk was talking about his mother in spirit. Just because she's dead that doesn't mean he doesn't feel that she can't forgive him. I know from experience that your relationship with your mother doesn't end when she dies. Since my mother's death, I have asked her to forgive me for things I've done both before and after she died.


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As EmeraldEmpress pointed out on another thread

If the Magic Wars happened...the Sorceress World was destroyed.
Where are now Mysa and Blok?


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Addressing only continuity issues with the most recent #6:
1) First of all, while I like jimgallagher's perfectly reasonable explanation for it, I have to say that for the comment from Cos about his mother, it feels like he (Paul Levitz) just forgot that she was dead. That issue was a loooong time ago.

Goes to show it's important for us readers to help PL out and give him feedback... if I am right, then once he realizes the error, I'm sure he won't exacerbate the problem further, and then jim's explanation can stand.... but if 5 issues later she actually showed up, well, then, forget it.

2) A big one I'm surprised no one else has mentioned: we have another Chemical manipulator from Phlon?!?... but as I recall, CKing's powers were unique to him (he was "a mutant"), not shared by everyone on his planet. Unless the new guy is somehow a descendant, the coincidence is hard to believe (...well, unless you explain that all Phlon-ians have a dormant "chemical manipulating" gene that is easily turned on by mutation, and/or that there is some reason the Phlon-ians are being selected for that trait, so it is a form of evolution.)

3) FINALLY, regarding the old Karate Kid continuity issue... I have to admit, I'm behind on some of my comic reading (i.e. I've only skimmed Countdown) and even more so on my remembering smile , but doesn't the 5-word phrase uttered in this issue by Jeckie, "pulled from some parallel world", constitute the explanation that has been missing for who the KK who died in Countdown (and I guess appeared in Lightning Saga) was? Still doesn't say WHICH parallel world...


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