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The other preview pages I've seen for the main Legion book have Phantom Girl, Ultra Boy, Cham, Dragonwing and Chemical Kid off on some Espionage Squad mission, so that would explain why they're not on this page...

As far as the 'deaths' in LL....I really really doubt that any of the cast are going to die this early on in the piece. I especially don't think Fabian would get rid of a couple of the most obviouly alien members of the team right off the bat when the whole context of the book is this team being fish out of water in the 21st century....

The only thing that's got me comforted about the deaths, aside from Yera and Gates having abilities that could get them out of a 'cliffhanger death situation' in a pinch, is that we know this story is dealing with Hypersapiens. If they're like the ones previously used in the postboot, perhaps the dead simply got temporarily changed into seed states.

Interesting group for an Espionage Squad outing.

Cham and Tinya are old-school Espionage Squad, Chemical Kid's powers can be quite subtle and he's got a devious streak, and Jo and Dragonwing both seem to be from 'the wrong side of the tracks,' making them potentially logical choices for dealing with covert/under-the-radar activities, as well.

I can understand them being trapped really. Didn't they say that time travel is going to be much much harder to pull off after Flashpoint? probably somthing to do with wahtever the Flash has to do to beat Zoom. Could explain the crash landing.

Time Travel from a dying future is always intriguing to me, in a 'head-spinny, must lie down' sort of way.

"We came from the future to save it from being destroyed by something that's already happened 1000 years ago, using a time machine that won't be invented for another 850 years... Oh crap. I just proved that I don't exist, didn't I..."

*Poof!*

Or, worse, they 'save' their future, in the process utterly annhilating the trillions of people who exist in the timeline that occured without them, just so that they can go home to a home that no longer exists. Who gets to decide which universe full of people dies? Shouldn't the ones who are currently alive get some say in whether they need to all die to restore the lives of the ones who died?

I mean, really, if someone came to me and said that I, and my entire universe, had to die, so that the Roman Empire could reclaim it's original destiny of discovering North America and founding the United States of Nova Roma and he could go home to his original universe, I'd shoot the dude in the face!

Not that the United States of Nova Roma doesn't sound fascinating...

Time travel. Go figure!

sigh, that writer still intended that two members got killed off. if it is true, I want to see the BODIES ..... if no bodies, no death. death be exaggerated!!!

Even with bodies, the permanence of death is highly questionable in DC Comics these days. However, has anyone thought of the other possibility? That the team starts with 9 members and that the 7 we have seen in solisitations are the surviving members after issue 1?

I've seen both of those scenarios played out in different ways in recent years.
'Primeval' from BBC mostly about struggling to keep things from changing for multiple time incursions and 'Fringe', where one of the main characters, Peter, went 'poof' in last season's ending episode.
sigh

It's actually quite difficult to come up with anything really new in Time Travel, any more.

Maybe, that's motivating DC.
Maybe.
But, I think it's probably Stephen Hawking's recent work where he refutes time travel into the past.
Ummm.
He's using current science theory though.

I'm no Stephen Hawkins, but it seems pretty obvious that if time travel could exist, then it does exist, and has already been discovered in the future, and our past / present has either been changed 10 billion times already, or can't be changed at all.

Ultimately, time travel is a self-negating concept.

A) It exists, but nothing changes.
B) It exists, and everything has already been changed a zillion times by travellers from our future, and yet we never perceive the changes.
C) It doesn't exist.

In each of these instances, its meaningless, since, *if* anything can be changed, the occupants of the changed realities will never be able to recognize the changes, since, obviously, we *haven't* recognized any such changes.

Although 'time travellers changed stuff' would make a great explanation for otherwise improbable occurences...

Option A is also a fun explanation for ghosts and the like. Time travellers are only capable of viewing, but not changing, the past. In some circumstances (which would have to be non-reproducible, or else *someone* in the future would have already used it to communicate with people in the past, and messed up history), people in the past can catch hazy glimpses of these future observers, and mistake them for apparitions or spirits.

I agree with what you've said, A, B, C.

I think a lot would depend on if time travel were naturally occuring events, therefore, part of the general makeup of existence, or if the time travel happened as part of an exploit or series of exploits, disrupting the timestream(s).

In 'Primeval', the incursions seem to be basically random and showing up throught time.
At least, originally.
Then, when humans reach a certain sophistication, they begin exploiting the situations for their own purposes.

Those involved, occasionally remember shifted events, particularly events or people that they are 'linked' to.

In 'Fringe' there are observers who are watch the circumstances of time shifts, or even who facilitate events, but who generally remain outside of the events and remember changes.

In 'Planetary' people could only really travel in time backwards to the point of the invention of time travel and there was a multiverse full of mostly the same people coming back to observe themselves.
lol

I've seen so many and read so many over the years that it takes something incredible to really catch my interest and keep me from having an adverse reaction.
For example, I didn't watch most of a couple of years of 'Enterprise' because of the continued time travel theme.

I've seen the 'ghost' idea a number of times(pun:(), too.

Interesting theory! Previews of Legion #1 don't show Colossal Boy or Quislet...

It is an interesting idea and one that I hadn't thought of, but having seen the first few pages now I think it would have been mentioned if they were missing anyone else than those named...