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Re: Legion of Super-Heroes Annual #1 (Preview & Spoilers)
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Will Vi start calling Ayla "Eyela"??
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Originally posted by Red Arrow:
The best example is when Queen Victoria came to the throne, she inherited The United Kingdoms of Great Britain under England's Semi-Salic Laws.However, she could not inherit the Kingdom of Hanover. That went to one of her uncles. [/QB] pedantic comment: Victoria's kindom was the United Kingdom (singular) of Great Britain and Ireland. Before 1801 it was just the Kingdom of Great Britain.
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As I recall, Cockrum's designs came on the heels of tryouts of some truly hideous costume designs sent in by readers. I think it was clear to the editors that fans wanted new costumes, but that they would have to be professionally designed. Fan reaction to the Cockrum designs was nearly universally positive (if the letters pages are any indication).
Incidentally, one reader-created design did continue to get used for many years after it was introduced. Any guesses as to whose it was?
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Saturn Girl's and Duo Damsel's costumes were both designed by fans. I think Light Lass's was too, but DD's and LL's were modified by Dave Cockrum.
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I remember as a seven year old how a certain back-up Legion tale featured all these nondescript heroes together with varied super powers. I had never seen a brown & green costume before on a hero, or one with green and yellow and red cowboy gloves?
The fact that their costumes were subdued and unusual and these characters were mysterious and unknown was the initial draw for me. I've been hooked since...
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Originally posted by lil'rhino: Will Vi start calling Ayla "Eyela"?? Oh no. I hope this doesn't restart the "how is Ayla's name pronounced" debate again!
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Originally posted by jimgallagher: I thought Vi and Ayla's relationship was made more clear here than what was shown of Ayla and Brin previously. That relationship was inferred to be intact by many readers on slimmer evidence than what is present in this issue. I think it could just be assumed that Ayla and Brin are friends again. Actually, Garth's rant at Mekt did make it seem that Ayla and Brin were together. While a Vi/Ayla pairing may be in vogue, still feel twinges of disappointment that, due to Vi's mental impairment when she fell for Duplicate Boy way back when, a true Gim/Vi romantic relationship has never been allowed to flourish...
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Originally posted by the Hermit: As I recall, Cockrum's designs came on the heels of tryouts of some truly hideous costume designs sent in by readers. I think it was clear to the editors that fans wanted new costumes, but that they would have to be professionally designed. Fan reaction to the Cockrum designs was nearly universally positive (if the letters pages are any indication). I recall that one of the first Legion fans that I met at local cons here in Minneapolis said that he didn't like the new LSH uniforms (around the time of Superboy & the LSH #197-200.
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Naturally, the editors at DC printed mostly favorable letters regarding the new costumes, but I remember reading a lot of fans' complaints about them in the Legion Outpost. K. (Kim) Haven Metzger who designed Saturn Girl's new costume wrote an article for one issue that begged for forgiveness for starting the trend. Here are a couple of snippets from his article:
" . . . the changes seemed so unnecessary. The old uniforms, I felt, were more in tune with the Legionnaires' personalities. . . . Colossal Boy's magnificent, colorful outfit fell to muscle-accentuating clothing. . . . ever since those new uniforms were introduced, it just doesn't seem like the Legion I knew. And I live with the knowledge that I am responsible."
Ironic that the costume that was MOST out of tune with its wearer's personality (IMHO) was his own creation! I think he may be claiming too much credit for starting the trend, but it's clear that he, among others, didn't like the sweeping costume changes.
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Originally posted by Ultra Jorge: Maybe the Eye wanted to let Vi in? Yes!
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Finally read this. Loved it for the most part. Seemed kinda anti-climactic in the end, but that's not to say that it was bad...just not 100% what I had hoped for.
I like Giffen's art, so I liked it here as well. The inks on some of it were pretty strange though.
Sorry to see Jeckie leave...but I think she'll be back in her search for Val again before too long.
Ayla and Salu together again...>like<
Dirk gettinga chance to actually do something was nice. Gates as well, although I agree that his powers need to be a bit more defined.
The alphabetwas great with some phenom pieces of art.
The board game was hilarious. Reading through it you could tell it was being played for fun.
Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.
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I finally got my issue, and I actually enjoyed it. The story was well done, and the Giffen art was appropriately abstract for the abstract world of Orando. My favorite page, actually, was the first full-page scene of Metropolis. Whether you like Giffen art or not, that page illustrated why his vision of 31st century architecture is still the standard 25 years later.
The coloring was great, IMO, especially the bright greens of the Empress. It was nice to have a comic book with vibrant colors, contrast to the standard dark and gloomy where the ink comes off on your fingers.
My one criticism would be that Gates came off looking like a California Raisin guy, but otherwise, a very enjoyable annual.
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finally got mine too, most enjoyable read since Superman and the Legion of Super Heroes of Action Comics.
(Gates did look a little off though)
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