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Legion of Super-Heroes Annual #1 (Preview & Spoilers)
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very Kirby artwork. Nothing like 5YL.
For me some of the best Giffen art in quarter of a century.
"Our devotion to each other was unexplainable" "You were kids" "No Batman, we were Legion"
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Agreed, this looks fantastic. Two inkers are listed, so I hope it's consistent throughout.
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Giffen's pencils are SOOOO much better there than the last time I saw them (in Legacies a few months ago). Huge relief!
The colours are fabbo too!
Can't wait!
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This looks amazing. I can't wait to pick it up.
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"And she devastates the Legion so completely, one Legionnaire will never be the same!"
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I noticed it was set on Orando. Ironic as it was Sensor Girl who helped the first Emerald Empress die. Boy, is she gonna be pissed.</span></span>
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So, has this version of Orando been returned to our dimension, ala the 5YG version?
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<wonders if Kent believes it's coming out NOW?!? >
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Originally posted by ultrajo: "And she devastates the Legion so completely, one Legionnaire will never be the same!" I hope the new Emerald Empress doesn't force Vi and Ayla to touch each other in naughty places...
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
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Very excited to see where this story goes! And wondering if more than just Vi and Ayla will show up unless they're one of the Legionnaires who will "never be the same."
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This was some prologue! The artwork looks amazing and the colours seemed to just jump off the pages. Wow!
I am excited and very impressed by this preview and I cannot wait to pick this up today (or maybe make that tomorrow as the snow storm in southern Ontario this morning is really bad!)
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Over on the DC boards, in a thread about the Annual where someone speculated how cool it would be to have him back as the regular Legion artist, Keith Giffen posted this; I have, in fact, already put in my bid to return to the Legion on a regular basis.
Of course, that all depends on reaction to the annual. Fans tastes change and I'm not arrogant enough to think I can just pick up where I left of 20 years go.
Ultimately... The annual was fun. That counts for a lot.
Hope its fun for you guys 'n' gals too.
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Originally posted by Silver Age Lad: very Kirby artwork. Nothing like 5YL.
For me some of the best Giffen art in quarter of a century. Weird, to me it looks exactly like the 5YL pencils with brighter/happier inking/coloring. Love the preview though.
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Story was ok, art was horrible. I've never liked Giffen's art. I hope he doesn't come back on a regular basis. And yes, I know I'm the only one who doesn't like his art.
So...I guess this means that:
1. Magnetic Kid is really dead. 2. Shrinking Violet and Lighting Lass are lovers. Does this mean that Lighting Lass is bi-sexual? 3. Shrinking Violet will become the next Emerald Empress. 4. Garridian Ranzz really was/is Validus. 5. Shadow Lass divorced Mon-El and really has become a disgraced slut and is now shacking up with Earth Man.
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We already knew #1 and the second half of #5 to be true in this version of the LSH. Is there something in the story that supports the others, or are you just speculating because the original Empress is dead and has been replaced? I won't get a chance to pick this up for a few days and welcome any spoilers.
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Not a bad story... not a classic either... felt like a sequel to an Emerald Empress story 22 years in the making... like with any sequel, there's bound to be dissenting opinions...
BTW, has the range of Gates' powers ever been specified?
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
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Gates was in it and was in character and useful. I am VERY pleased.
The art was a bit of a mixed bag. Some pages were great and others were plain ol' scratchy Giffen, but given he had eye problems midway through and two different inkers, I'll give it a pass.
If the Giffen from the first part of the story comes back, I'm all for it.
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What a great story! The artwork was really superb, if Kirbyesque. I loved the use of the Legion members chosen and the creative use of their powers, especially Violet. The story was tight and crisp, and I prefer the one off format over the multi-issue soap operas of the regular book. I'm sorry about the ending, but I hope that is not permanent.
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Why did Vi and Ayla's clothes keep changing? That was an annoying and unnecessary distraction. They were captured in uniform, woke up in some sort of jammies, and later were back in uniform again. What was the point? And how did Violet's jammies shrink with her? This is the Legion, dammit, and I want to see costumes!
The artwork was variable as Dave said. Some pages looked great. Others, ick. In one panel, Projecta's head looks like a pumpkin that's about to explode. And that costume of hers has GOT TO GO!
A lot of the story felt like retread. Damaged young woman seduced by the eye. Orando conquered. Jeckie returning to rebuild. Ayla waking up in a cell on a bed of straw on Orando. Emerald Violet.
Gates is becoming too much of a deus ex machina. I want his powers more limited. The Legion needs to have a spaceship to travel between planets, imho. Just having Gates pop them wherever they need to go is too easy.
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Remember back when people saw the cover and thought that the Empress was a giant or that something else was funny because she was drawn in an odd perspective?
Nope, it's just Giffen's art and a lot of people's faces looked that way this issue. It's a lot like 5YL art with different inking.
And how did Violet's jammies shrink with her?
The same way she can eat food and shrink without her stomach bursting.
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It's certainly a treat to have a new Legion annual. Overall, I'm satisfied but with a few nits to pick.
The cover was gorgeous. Lots of detail.
I'm a Giffen fan from way back. I've always been more supportive of his quirkiness, experimentation, and changing styles than most fans. This issue is another style shift for him. I enjoyed it, but suspect it will have some vocal critics.
The new Emerald Empress could have used a bit more development. She was a used and crazy girl, but her time with the eye was short lived. Perhaps, we'll see more of her in the future. Should the eye come back to her at some point, we will hopefully be given more details about her past.
While it's been used before, the repeated use of the word "eye" in place of "I" is pretty irritating. This was first done in the reboot Emerald Vi story line, right? Eye would have preferred if it hadn't been revisited. I'm pleased that we received further confirmation that Ayla and Salu are a couple. It felt a bit forced for that confirmation to come in the form of pet nicknames like "sweetie" and "love".
Gates power range seemed pretty out of whack. Didn't he once have a limitation of being able to teleport within in his field of vision? Now he's a planet hopping machine. That's a pretty major upgrade.
Overall, a nice selection of Legionnaires was featured. It was a good mix and not just the usual suspects.
I have mixed feelings about Projectra returning to a leadership role on Orando. It does leave the team a bit short handed, but at least we won't have endure seeing her in that hideous costume month after month.
There was a hint of a cliffhanger in the ending. If it is what it implies, we've seen it before, right? A red herring perhaps?
The Legion History Board Game was great. It really provided a lot of detail regarding what is and isn't included in the continuity for this current version of the team. That's appreciated. It was a fun and clever way to present the information.
Beauty's where you find it. Not just where you bump and grind it.
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I'm new to Giffen's work. Having had my own (thirty) five year gap I'm in frantic catch up mode, grabbing TPBs, archives etc (still no news on the GDS dammit). I have to say I'm leaning towards BouncingBear on this. To me the art looks rather dated. I'm not saying it's bad- and I'll certainly get myself a copy- but I'm not blown away. Maybe I need to see more of his work to appreciate it.
Whaddya mean I'm out of continuity?
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I think the use of eye for I was first used in the dot LEGION series.
I had to look up the word weregild:
"Weregild (also spelled wergild, wergeld, weregeld, etc.) was a value placed on every human being and every piece of property in the Salic Code (Salic Law). If property was stolen, or someone was injured or killed, the guilty person would have to pay weregild to the victim's family or to the owner of the property."
So I guess Projectra found herself guilty for what happened to the girl, Falyce. So what happened to her face? And why was it no longer scarred after she lost the power of the Eye? It would be interesting if Projectra's sensory powers could restore the girl's lost vision.
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