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I voted for 24, and would also like to vote for Luornu!


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Originally posted by Blacula: I think his personality, which used to feel so fresh and interesting in a Legionnaire, began to grate on me after awhile. I mean, there's only so long an anti-establishment/anarchic figure can be a part of the establishment before they start to seem like a hypocritical sell-out isn't there? Some writers have had a better handle on him than others but when he's written badly, he's written REALLY badly IMO.
Gates has a classic case of 'ex-pat syndrome,' where someone from another culture or nation spends all of their time living somewhere else, and moaning endlessly about how much better things are back in the home country, which sort of begs the question, why the hell aren't they in their oh-so-wonderful home country, instead of whining about mine?

In the reboot, with Gates having been forced to go join a 'teenaged death squad' of aliens, his personality made a bit of sense. He didn't *volunteer* to leave his communist/socialist utopia behind and live among the heirarchical humanoids.

And with the destruction of his universe, and therefore his Vyrga, it also could have made sense that he would be the first of the Reboot Legion to jump ship to another universe, in hopes of finding another Vyrga, to which he can finally return. (The question of whether the classic continuity, or the Threeboot, for that matter, *has* a Vyrga has never been answered, though, and this notion, that Gates had a reason to leave his teammates and resettle in this new universe, was never addressed.)

Ultimately, had the Reboot universe continued, I'd expect Gates to have become so 'different' to his peers on Vyrga, due to his experiences as a Legionnaire and away from his people and their society, that he'd be an unwelcome stranger on Vyrga, and unable to ever truly re-assimilate, giving him a valid story reason to continue waxing philosophical about the glory days and his people and their ways, and yet be unable to ever really return, and be 'stuck' part of the Legion. (Sort of like Threeboot Luornu, seen as 'too changed' to ever truly be welcome back on her homeworld.)

But, really, we haven't see that, and if it was ever in the cards, the destruction of the Reboot universe pretty much threw that plan out the window...


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24 votes plus one for Lu for me as well.

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Voted! And glad to see one other big Pete Ross fan gave him a vote too!

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^ I was *just* about to make a post about how I'm the only Pete Ross fan at Legion World! lol

He's probably the most underrated supporting character in all of comicdom IMO.

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Voted! Less than 24, since I've only been reading IB's Reboot Legion comics and don't know that many yet.

Please add a vote for Triad (Luornu) too!

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^ I was *just* about to make a post about how I'm the only Pete Ross fan at Legion World! lol

He's probably the most underrated supporting character in all of comicdom IMO.
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Originally posted by Blacula: I think his personality, which used to feel so fresh and interesting in a Legionnaire, began to grate on me after awhile. I mean, there's only so long an anti-establishment/anarchic figure can be a part of the establishment before they start to seem like a hypocritical sell-out isn't there?

Gates has a classic case of 'ex-pat syndrome,' where someone from another culture or nation spends all of their time living somewhere else, and moaning endlessly about how much better things are back in the home country, which sort of begs the question, why the hell aren't they in their oh-so-wonderful home country, instead of whining about mine?

Re the discussion on Gates, by the DNA era he seemed to really have considered the Legion his home. Before that, even - his friendship with Brainiac 5 started after the Anomaly.

I was really hoping Gates' development would take him further than that, and he'd come to change his strategy to working within the system, using its own resources, to do some good. Like with what I wrote here , with him starting a series of medical missions across the UP!

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Incidentally, was Gates's homeworld a socialist utopia? The way I remembered it, he seemed as much an outcast there as in the Legion. I don't remember much about the issue where the Legion actually visits the planet to fight Mantis Morlo, though.

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It was Legionnaires 45, and Gates was an outcast. It was mentioned that Gates was considered by his fellow Vyrgans as a bit of a pain and a troublemaker, and that almost all the other Vyrgans thought alike. Not quite a hive-mind, but they just had the same opinions on most things - hence a lack of innovation and creativity.

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Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: It was mentioned that Gates was considered by his fellow Vyrgans as a bit of a pain and a troublemaker, and that almost all the other Vyrgans thought alike. Not quite a hive-mind, but they just had the same opinions on most things - hence a lack of innovation and creativity.
It is interesting how we sometimes tend to assign traits to animal-like aliens similar to those that we associate with that earth animal.

Dog-like aliens are loyal and clannish. Cat aliens are flirty and capricious. Bug aliens are inflexible and have a hive mentality. Snake aliens are treacherous bad-guys that hiss when they talk.

It could be fun to go against type, and have an alien that looks like an anthropomorphic dolphin or otter or something, an animal that we humans associate with 'friendly' and 'playful,' and have those aliens just be horrible dicks, or a terrifying looking poison-drooling fang-twitching spider-alien race that are total pacifists and a highly spiritual race, reknowned for their diplomatic skills.


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It could be fun to go against type, and have an alien that looks like an anthropomorphic dolphin or otter or something, an animal that we humans associate with 'friendly' and 'playful,' and have those aliens just be horrible dicks, or a terrifying looking poison-drooling fang-twitching spider-alien race that are total pacifists and a highly spiritual race, reknowned for their diplomatic skills.
That's one thing that I think Giffen excelled at with his aliens in the 80's.....a bunch of them looked quite monstrous but were the complete opposite; Circadia Senius, that guy whose name I forget from the Science Asteroid, etc...

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Originally posted by razsolo: That's one thing that I think Giffen excelled at with his aliens in the 80's.....a bunch of them looked quite monstrous but were the complete opposite; Circadia Senius, that guy whose name I forget from the Science Asteroid, etc...
Ooh, the one with all the tentacles, that had a little robot wet/dry-vac following him around slorping up his trail of slime? That was awesome.


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So, there's like five more days left to vote!

We're just a few votes shy of fifty, so get to selecting some Legionnaires, ye undecided voters!

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We are currently at fifty voters, with about 17 hours left to vote, by my calculatons!

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RESULTS

Tinya Wazzo 36/72%

Jo Nah 36/72%

Salu Digby 35/70%

Reep Daggle 34/68%

Imra Ardeen 32/64%

Nura Nal 32/64%

Querl Dox 31/62%

Jan Arrah 31/62%

Tasmia Mallor 31/62%

Lyle Norg 27/54%

Thom Kallor 27/54%

Projectra 27/54%

Ayla Ranzz 26/52%

Ti'Julk Mr'Asz 25/50%

Rokk Krinn 24/48%

Brin Londo 24/48%

Garth Ranzz 23/64%

Chuck Taine 23/46%

Tenzil Kem 23/46%

Val Armor 23/26%

Dawnstar 23/46%

Gim Allon 22/44%

Lar Gand 22/44%

Drake Burroughs 21/42%

Blok 21/42%

Dirk Morgna 20/40%

Mysa Nal 20/40%

Condo Arlik 19/38%

Zoe Saugin 19/38%

Kara Zor-El 18/36%

Brek Bannin 17/34%

Jenni Ognats 17/34%

Shikari 16/32%

Luornu Durgo 15/30%***

Laurel Gand 15/30%

Ganglios 13/26%

Kent Shakespeare 13/26%

Jacque Foccart 12/24%

Quislet 12/24%

Jazmin Cullen 12/24%

Lydda Jath 12/24%

Andrew Nolan 11/22%

Rond Vidar 10/20%

Kal-El 8/16%

Sussa Paka 8/16%

Drura Sepht 8/16%***

Lana Lang 7/14%

Brita An'nan 7/14%

Xao Jin 7/14%

Candi Pyponte Le-Parc 7/14%

Grava 7/14%

Berta Sykes Harris 6/12%

Dag Wentim 6/12%

Danielle Foccart 6/12%

Ulu Vakk 5/10%

Celeste McCauley 5/10%

Bobb Kohan 4/8%

April Dumaka 4/8%

Veilmist 4/8%

I.Z.O.R. 4/8%

Giselle Smith 4/8%

Hadru Jamik 4/8%

Marya Pai 4/8%

Staq Mavlin 3/6%

Rhent Ustin 3/6%

Dyrk Magz 3/6%

Jeka Wynzorr 3/6%

Sandy Anderson 3/6%

Theena 3/6%

Rol Purtha 3/6%

Yera Allon 3/6%

Pete Ross 2/4%

Gnill Opral 2/4%

E. Davis Ester 2/4%

Devlin O'Ryan 2/4%

James Cullen 2/4%

Teela Spuunvll 2/4%

Glorth II 2/4%

Pol Krinn 1/2%

Stig Ah 1/2%

Myke Chyrpuz 1/2%

Flederweb 1/2%

Bart Allen 1/2%

CeCe Beck 1/2%

Bogdan Tarka 1/2%

Hart Druiter 1/2%

Kirt Nidrigh 1/2%

Harmonia Li 1/2%

Ral Benem 1/2%***

Jimmy Olsen 0/0%

Myg 0/0%

Marak Russen 0/0%

Myke-4 Astor 0/0%

Firefist 0/0%

Blood Claw 0/0%

Kon-El 0/0%

Kell-El 0/0%

Pete Dursin 0/0%***


Note *** indicates character was left off the original poll, and only received write-in votes, which I suspect seriously disadvantaged said characters. I'm also pretty sure Nam'Lor's hyper-aura is to blame.

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Gates is at a nice 14th place, while Kinetix just misses the Top 25.

I blame Nam'lor for not letting Kinetix make the Top 25 too!

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Interesting that Gates beat out Timber Wolf as the most popular Legion Lost Legionnaire. He's sure not marketed as the most popular member of the team in their current title. I'm also surprised how poorly Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad did over all with them being 2 of the 3 founders.

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Ayla beats Garth, whereas usually it's the other way around. And I'm pleasantly surprised at how high Violet is on this poll.

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