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Re: Legion of Super-Heroes #3 - SPOILERS
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The art is terrific but I agree that the inkers are kind of hurting the book more than anything. That's my one major complaint I'd like to see improved.

The guy helping out Cinar inks his own pencils. I think his finishes are better than the regular inker's. Wonder if he'd be willing to just ink?

I think Cinar is solid -- but not quite strong enough to give the Legion the panache, I'd like to see. A more stylized inker would certainly help.

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[b]I do like the look on Jan's face, 'though, as Earth-Man reaches out to absorb his power. He sure didn't look fond of the liberty being taken...
I wonder if people feel something physical when Earth-Man absorbs their power, like they're being drained. It could be a pretty creepy feeling. [/b]
Historically, Earth-Man just absorded leftover energy from other characters. They didn't even need to be present. So, he doesn't really need active energy -- and it probably has no effect on the person whose power he duplicates.

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can someone show us the jim lee variant covers?
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Except for the 3 issues that are already out, they have not been revealed.

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If it helps, Ayla should switch to wearing shorts instead of... I'm gonna say a thong?... with her outfit.
I didn't think it was a thong. I'd be happy if they just gave her a pair of tights.


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The first time I read this issue, I wasn't really feeling it - but that may just have been due to the bad mood I was in because of the fact that my just-bought copy had some weird water damage all over it. Grrrr....

But after going back to the store and getting a new one and re-reading it - I'm a lot happier with it.

Random thoughts -

* I really liked the green and white GL version of Earth Man's costume. Nice touch.

* Glad to see him get rid of the ring at the end though, and hopefully bringing that storyline to a close. I do NOT want a GL in the Legion (even though it's fairly obvious someone else will be receiving the ring soon).

* Other costume raves - love Element Lad's redesign! A lot! Great job Cinar (or whoever). I am also still a big fan of a lot of the other redesigns - very much including Ayla, Jacques and Saturn Queen (whose outfits were all dissed in this thread I believe frown )

* Costumes I'm Meh on - Sun Boy. I don't hate it but his original outfit is still so much better. A pointless change IMO. Tasmia. It's very... revealing... but the way it was drawn in this issue clicked with me for some reason. Don't mind an improvement but don't mind if it stays either.

* Costumes I hate - Sensor Girl. This character needs a top to bottom redesign. Everything about her current look is hideous. Still hate the name too. Bring back Princess (or Queen) Projectra. Tyroc. Boring outfit and he needs hair dammit. Aven. What a weird and ugly robe he's got on. His Reboot appearance was so much cooler. Phantom Girl. Something else else about it is starting to really annoy me. Would love to see her in something fresh and original too.

* The Durlan Revenge Squad seem a bit silly so far but I'm willing to give them some slack. I hope that subplot goes somewhere more interesting than I'm expecting it to.

* The art was a bit patchy (Jacques didn't look anywhere near as hot as he did last issue for example) but I still liked it all and am very grateful to have these artists on this book rather than some worse ones.

* The Darkseid reveal at the end was extremely boring and uninspiring IMO. Don't like New Gods interacting with mainstream DCU heroes and don't like 21st century DC characters (other than the Superman ones) interacting with the Legion. This is the double whammy of that. Plus, I've already read the Reboot's hideous attempt to redo the Great Darkness Saga. I really hope Paul isn't going there too.

All in all, I'm still a happy Legion camper.

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Plus, he's willing to openly reject some of their worst junk ... and overturned at least one of the stale, old romances (Shady/Mon) Johns had reintroduced for no better reason than earning some nostalgia points.
The ways some posters in this forum find to bash Geoff Johns makes me laugh sometimes.

So Geoff's showcasing of Mon and Tasmia as in a relationship (as they were at the time of the Crisis - when Geoff's Lo3W team were meant to be plucked from) isn't just sticking to their established history of the characters but rather "earning some nostalgia points"?

So what does that make the fact that he broke up Rokk and Lydda - another long-time Legion couple?

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agreed. Sure, Johns wasn't perfect. But no one could ever please everyone (and some everyones more than others).


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I have to hand it to Geoff though ... he was a big part of getting The Legion on live-action TV (finally!) via the Smallville series, which may turn out to be more than just a one time thing.

I didn't mind his writing on Lo3W either ... hey that is a huge number of players, not to mention history, to juggle for any writer. I think he did it pretty well.

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There are lots of things I hate about Johns' writing in general, but I don't think he can be blamed for/given credit for Shady and Mon being together as of LO3W. That's just maintaining the status quo.

Given that Shady severed her own finger as a gesture of devotion to him, I'm actually really surprised that they have split and I hope there is a VERY compelling reason for it.

Rokk and Lydda being apart I think is probably a good thing for her and a bad thing for him...I like to hope that this is a temporary thing and that they will end up back together again at some point with the upshot being that she gets to form relationships with the other Legionnaires beyond being Cos's girlfriend...

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I still don't get how Night Girl can be eligible for full membership, considering she's got the same limitation she's always had.

I agree that I would like her to be featured as other than Rokk's girlfriend.

Maybe Shady and Lydda could be the new lesbian couple, since Vi and Ayla appear to be no more.


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Y'know, the thing I never got about Night Girl's limitation....how hard would it be for anyone with half a brain to have just come up with a transuit which is light-repellent for her? They could leave her eyes uncovered so she can still see, but it would prevent any light from reaching her - and for a lot of her career she's been fully covered from the neck down anyway, so she wouldn't really even have to modify her costume design all that much, just add a cowl really...

I can understand that's kind of cheating on one hand, but not really any more so than it is for Tellus to have his helmet, or Wildfire or Quislet their containment vessels..

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^ I think they did something like that for Dirk Morgna in the Reboot when his powers went out of control for a while.

It is a pretty easy solution that they they should really get around to implementing for Lydda, sooner rather than later.

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I second Blacula's seconding of razsolo's post.

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They can do anything they want with NG's relationship status, if we could just see that happen. Even if she was still a Sub or a reservist, it would totally up her awesomeness quotient.


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I don't think there is any change to the limitations of Night Girl's powers. With the passage of time she has continued to prove herself as a person of character. Polar Boy established that a sub can make a good transition to the Legion. The rules have evolved and changed as time has passed by. For example, the limitation on married couples has been lifted. There's no reason that rules and standards on power restrictions shouldn't have changed. Those could all be factors in her finally receiving membership.

Too bad we haven't seen the story of how she became a full time member. This is the type of "unrevealed" story that would be ideal for Adventure Comics.


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Too bad we haven't seen the story of how she became a full time member. This is the type of "unrevealed" story that would be ideal for Adventure Comics.
That would be cool!

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I don't think there is any change to the limitations of Night Girl's powers. With the passage of time she has continued to prove herself as a person of character. Polar Boy established that a sub can make a good transition to the Legion. The rules have evolved and changed as time has passed by. For example, the limitation on married couples has been lifted. There's no reason that rules and standards on power restrictions shouldn't have changed. Those could all be factors in her finally receiving membership.

Too bad we haven't seen the story of how she became a full time member. This is the type of "unrevealed" story that would be ideal for Adventure Comics.
Her powers were unchanged when she became a member but since then she was getting stronger as she hit shadow demons in L3W. At the end of L3W she was seen in sunlight carrying something large and presumably heavy during the rebuilding of Smallville. If this change was permanent then she is a lot more powerful than she used to be.

What would be really cool was if the treatment that gave Lydda her strength in the dark also gave her another power in the light only her father didn't realise because there is no sunlight on Kathoon. In checking out her shadow demon enhanced strength, Brainy discovers thatin sunlight Lydda can create Quantum energy or something.


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It occurred to me that the flying, sentient, GL ring-worthy bugs might be a juxtaposition to cockroaches, which seem to repressent time or time travel. Perhaps an insectoid Green Lantern might be honed for a battle with the entity that killed the last (or latest) Lantern: Time Trapper Prime.

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I totally missed that slip-up on Paul's part regarding how Saturn Queen can breath and fly in space. I think an expanation to the readers might be in order, especially if Paul knows something we don't know or has something in the works.
This could just be a plain 'ol goof up though.
Saturn Queen talking and breathing in space has been done and didn't bother me as much as the fire she threatened Brainy with. Did it have a Wal*Mart flight ring or transuit? Unlikely.

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OR...maybe the ring needed to leech off of his power/Legionnaires power for something and that's why Dyogene chose Kirt. I just hope a reason is given.

He couldn't have gotten it due to his fearless virtue.
Great idea, Kirt's power being used by Dyogene for some reason.
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I wonder if people feel something physical when Earth-Man absorbs their power, like they're being drained. It could be a pretty creepy feeling.
I think that his victims DO feel something, perhaps proportionately to how much he absorbs.

I agree that that might be addictive to some personalities, the lightheadedness, getting close to passing out, etc.

Very interesting insights.

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It occurred to me that the flying, sentient, GL ring-worthy bugs might be a juxtaposition to cockroaches, which seem to repressent time or time travel. Perhaps an insectoid Green Lantern might be honed for a battle with the entity that killed the last (or latest) Lantern: Time Trapper Prime.
Yes, I agree with the idea that something else, and possibly BIG, is going on with the ring and the GL.


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. . . the fire she threatened Brainy with. Did it have a Wal*Mart flight ring or transuit? Unlikely.
I thought that the flame was Wildfire, 'mind' controlled and kept together by SQ.

I didn't have any trouble with Jeckie fooling the controlled Legionnaires with the illusions that caused them to attack SQ, either.
Both just seemed like good and interesting uses of Legionnaire powers, to me.

If I can actually see it, I can usually flow with what's happening.
Cinar is still a little rough but I 'get' him.
Most of the time.


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So who hasn't appeared yet in some capacity?

Star Boy
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Tenzil
Quislet

Anyone else?


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I wonder if we'll see Star Boy or Star MAN when he does finally appear in this book.

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[b]. . . the fire she threatened Brainy with. Did it have a Wal*Mart flight ring or transuit? Unlikely.
I thought that the flame was Wildfire, 'mind' controlled and kept together by SQ.

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Thanks, Candle, that hadn't occurred to me. It doesn't seem consistant with what has been shown of Wildfire's uncontained state, but it seems the most reasonable answer.

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