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Re: Legion of Super-Heroes #3 - SPOILERS
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i second rhino's prediction cause it would fit, since she knew rond. That and her feelings about the time institutes dabbling...that probably would contribute to her being a green lantern no no not the power itself...just the trouble of making her interesting makes her a logical choice.


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[b]Hey the variant cover version of #3 was delayed a week, or so I was told by the owner of my local comic shop. Is this true or was I being fed a line?
I would love to own that Chameleon Boy cover and add it to my collection.
It's true. Panic if you didn't get it after next Wednesday (like me).[/b]
And like me.
I paniced Thursday since my retailer told me his list read 'no varient'.
I tried to explain that there WAS a varient, so he called and got the scoop.
He got mad at me because Diamond treats him badly if he calls, which didn't happen this time, he got an answer and niceness.
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[b]Prediction: Professor Harmonia Li will be the new Green Lantern.
Possibly. I still think the 'bug' world is a Mogo Jr. and the core of a new GL team.[/b]
I think that both ideas are interesting and possible.
I can't imagine why the ring would fall to the ground and roll in the dust when Rond's ring flew off into space, escaping Universo, except that the ring was to go to the sentient there.

Li would work too.
The Legion builds up lots of no superheroes, so that's not a true indication of coming power, imo.
I think she might be a player, though.

I wonder where Rond's ring is more.
I'd love to see his 'wife' and child.


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I didn't think the art was as good as last issue, except the cover, which rocked. I too hate Sensor girl's costume and it's not just the mask, though that's the worst part. If her eyes didn't show (as in her original mask) it would look less hokey.

I was confused by what she did in that scene with SQ. Was she using some of her vague Sensor Girl powers or just casting illusions of herself and the others for B5 and Tyroc to attack? If so, that could've been made more clear. Also, SQ could've just dropped her control or redirected her thralls before she got bonked. It also seemed weird to me that she just stood around in deep space waiting for U boy to destroy HQ (and then return to her?). Why didn't she go with him and supervise? Or at least go someplace where she'd be more comfortable.

I've never been a GL afficianado but I've never been aware that the ring was in control of the host. And it's only been recently that I've been aware that the ring could talk to the host. What's up with all that? Seemed like a silly throw away device that was quickly discarded merely for the purpose of tying LSH in with the GL events in DCU.
As ever, I totally agree with you on all your points there Jim. I was confused by that scene as well. Also in the panel where PG pushed SQ it looked more like an IK move than a PG move.


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Thanks, Carggy. Yes, I was looking around for I Kid too. I also thought it might have been Tellus bonking her telekinetically. And what does the Goose Girl comment mean?

Speaking of I KId, I see his white stripe is back but his goatee is gone.


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I actually almost felt for Earth Man in this isssue. Interesting way Paul is portraying him. It reminds me slightly, just slightly of the %YL Khund Legionnaires being forced into the team...and the tensions that created.

Saturn Queen story seemed anticlimactic. Not sure the point at this time.

Looking forward to the search for the twins come to fruition.

I hate that Tellus has hands now...do not remember that before, I always thought he had arms that ended in more stumpish things...

Jeckie needs to loose the mask, as that will at least make the outfit not as nausiating.


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I can't imagine why the ring would fall to the ground and roll in the dust when Rond's ring flew off into space, escaping Universo, except that the ring was to go to the sentient there.
The ring fell to the ground there because that Pokemon-looking floating creature, Dyogene, was there to pick it up. If you look back at issue 1 he was the same creature who gave Earth-Man the ring to begin with.

I get the impression we're supposed to believe he was testing Earth-Man, but I don't see what that would accomplish except to prove he's unsuitable for the ring, which doesn't matter since he threw out the ring anyway.

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I wonder where Rond's ring is more.
I'd love to see his 'wife' and child.
Umm, wasn't that 5YL?

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Universo states that Rond has a son in LoTW, therefore, he at least has a son and baby mamma, maybe a wife...


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Thanks. I'd never heard that fairy tale before. But I still don't really get the analogy. PG isn't royalty and she hasn't been supplanted by a servant to my knowledge.

On a side note. It seems to me that if Ultra Boy's ultra love could break SQ's control, Brainy should be able to do it in a snap. Also, it seems to me SQ could've had Tyroc take out all 4 Legionnaires in one shout. She could've also had Brainy protect her with his force shield, or imprison the 4 heroes in one. The fight was just over too quickly for my taste.


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About the Goose Girl - there's an illustrated version (probably more than one but I'm refering to the one I used to own) where the girl is a little more proactive.
Somehow, I can't remember, she's walking through the town holding a goose and someone touches the goose and sticks to it. Then, someone touches THAT person and sticks to him/her.
On and on, everyone who touches one of them can't let loose and the girl keeps on walking through the town, sort of like a 'konga line'.
That's what gets the king's/prince's attention, etc..

Anyway, that's what I saw when she said she was just the goose girl, but she'd brought friends.

I don't see as well as I once did, and I can't make out an image of the little Dyogene.
I just saw green light stuff and went with the Mogo Jr. idea, which still works for me until next issue.
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I put the word wife in ' ' because it seemed easier than explaining she might be a girl friend or common law wife or significant other or whatever.
I guess it didn't work.
Go figure.


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...Please Paul & Yildiray-get rid of it [the mask]!! Let us see her beautiful face & platinum curls!
On the other hand, I love Element Lad's updated costume.
Mostly agreed. I can imagine her keeping the mask because it makes her look more formidable in an environment where most heroes don't cover their faces.

Still, covered face + that stoopid top of hers makes zero sense. Yeesh. Comic book brass, I already get that you see women as the sum of their woman-bits first and everything else second. Do you really have to be this obnoxious about it? <strike>Hell, just dress the poor woman in nothing but a mask and a thong and be done with it.</strike>

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...I was confused by what she did in that scene with SQ. Was she using some of her vague Sensor Girl powers or just casting illusions of herself and the others for B5 and Tyroc to attack?...
Whew! I thought I was the only one who was totally confused by whatever it was that Sensor Girl was doing.

As for SQ remaining in space, I assume that she didn't want to deal with the rest of the Legion or with cops if she didn't have to.

I liked the writing on Earth Man and Imra/Garth/Ayla this time out. The art looks good, too.


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a nice but not great issue. i agree that Cinar's art does look a lot like Greg Laroque's in many places, especially the Saturn Queen pages. not as fond of the fill-in art this time out, though i loved it last issue.
i find it interesting that there's the hanging subplot of Lightning Lord's claim of having a twin, then Saturn Queen appears, and now the missing Ardeen-Ranzz twins are tracked to Avalon. wasn't Avalon the site of the big LSV war when KK died? i'm stumped as to what is going on.

the Imra/Ayla/Garth pages were the best and most interesting.
i found Aven's conversation with Li interesting and telling. perhaps Li isn't such a good guy after all. also, interesting was Shady's interaction with Earth-Man given the upcoming shocking cover.

Tyroc's sound powers working in outer space need to be explained. he even says "Owoooo" in the vacuum of space. perhaps Paul is forgetting they use the telepathic ear plugs to converse. AND just how is SQ flying around/talking/breathing in outer-space? does she have a stolen telepathic ear plug/flight ring/trans-suit? Grrr i hate stuff like this.


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The fight where Val and NK died was on Orando, Jeckie's home planet, not Avalon.

I don't remember much about any story on Avalon.
The Companion that Levitz wrote long ago is super limited on Avalon. Almost everything written there is stated by the Ranzzs in this (#3) story.

I used my magnifying glass and found Dyogene but the last panel of that part of the story still seems to have the ring just on the planet and glowing, I think.

I also found a page I'd missed before, really.
The one with the Durlan's on Earth wanting revenge.
Revenge for McCauley killing Brande?
Are they after the Legion or the UP?
And how come they don't speak with a funny accent?

I still hate Shady's outfit.
And Jeckie's.
And they need to give Imra an updated, sleeveless look, too.
Oh, well.


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If it helps, Ayla should switch to wearing shorts instead of... I'm gonna say a thong?... with her outfit.

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I agree about her outfit.

That look is a hold over from her Adventure days, actually.
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At least she doesn't have those weird lightning bolt things on her shoulders. Were those shoulder pads?

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So I have read #3..

Thoughts: it took me a couple of reads to get what Sensor Girl actually did in the fight with Saturn Queen. The art should have made that a lot clearer.

I am now thinking that Shady and Earth-Man will be the ones to hook up, just something about the way they interacted on the alien planet...

I really REALLY dislike Tellus' fingers + opposable thumbs, and hope this is artist error as opposed to new canon. Part of Tellus' appeal is that he is so visually different from other superheroes, it would be a shame to have that diluted until he becomes the LSH's version of Ben Grimm...

I'm with jim, I didn't get the goose girl thing either; even after reading that wiki I don't get it.

Garth finding Imra I felt was a little jarring...the last time we saw Imra she was in fine condition; now suddenly she's exhausted and unconscious? That was a little strange. It took me a while to get that nothing had happened to her which we hadn't already seen.

All of the above sounds quite negative, but it's really just small niggles; I really enjoyed this issue, more than the last one even. That one panel of Sensor Girl taking on Saturn Queen is just gorgeous, and I think a great testament to the artist considering how hideous her current costume is.

I am still very definitely on board for this Legion run...the only thing I actually really would like to see that we haven't yet is a definitive roll call. I don't expect to see the entire team in every issue when it's such a big cast, but I would like to know for sure who is & isn't available...

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AND just how is SQ flying around/talking/breathing in outer-space? does she have a stolen telepathic ear plug/flight ring/trans-suit? Grrr i hate stuff like this.
Well, she doesn't need a telepathic earplug since she's telepathic already. I'm assuming transuits are pretty much standard issue and available at the local space Wal-mart or whatever. And it seems like everybody can fly nowadays. Didn't all of the LSV fly in that recent L3W story? Maybe flight rings are available at Wal-mart too.


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AND just how is SQ flying around/talking/breathing in outer-space? does she have a stolen telepathic ear plug/flight ring/trans-suit?
Legion of Three Worlds showed the entire LSV being given rings that Superboy Prime burned an 'S' into with his heat vision, and, inexplicably, many non-flying members of the LSV / Super-Assassins / Fatal Five were then shown flying around in combat scenes, so, apparently, if Superboy Prime's carves an 'S' into something with heat vision, it turns into a Flight Ring.

Maybe he also stared at Saturn Queen's bosums and gave them life-support powers, as well...


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Maybe he also stared at Saturn Queen's bosums and gave them life-support powers, as well...
This seems eminently reasonable to me.

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Heh.

San snark, which is hard for me, it being my default setting, Superboy Prime's LSV had access to Saturn Queen and Esper Lass, who could have delved the Flight Ring mechanics out of the minds of those Legionnaires who understood their operations, and Cosmic King, who could replicate Element Whateveritis that makes them work. It's conceivable that Tharok could also figure out how they work, and, combined with Cosmic King and a telepath to provide an interpreter between them, fashion some rings with one or more of; flight, life-support, communications.

(I like the old telepathic earplugs and transsuits, but have also grown to appreciate the idea of flight rings having all of that stuff built in, as used in the Threeboot / Shooter run. I'm ready for the transsuits and earplugs to go the way of the flight belts, jet-packs and Cos' bubble-helmet.)


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Prediction: Professor Harmonia Li will be the new Green Lantern.
Now that'd be neat! smile


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Or Colossal Boy could've given the LSV the flight ring specs back in Adv. 371-2.


I like Ayla's costume. At least it's not as revealing as Shadow Lass's and it doesn't have a boob window like Dawnstar or Sensor Girl.


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I totally missed that slip-up on Paul's part regarding how Saturn Queen can breath and fly in space. I think an expanation to the readers might be in order, especially if Paul knows something we don't know or has something in the works.
This could just be a plain 'ol goof up though.

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