Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Legion in JLU Cartoon/Legion Series...Official Thread

I like the Brainiac.

Here\'s a thread about that!

And I just watched my copy of ULTIMATE AVENGERS. Wow!

This is how comic animation should be. It looked as if it jumped out of the pages of a comic. Someone want to explain to me again how kids will only watch the goofy crap? Howsabout doing an animated series based on Swan, Cockrum, Grell, Giffen, Lightle, Moy, Kitson, etc. You know the comics that inspired the cartoon.

Here's another one by Ben Caldwell from his submissions:

Well, Cartoon Network released its 2006 lineup today, and, unfortunately, the Legion cartoon isn't on it.

Of course, it's still early and could change, or they could be waiting to have a number of episodes in the can and go for an early 2007 launch.

Or maybe for following November series is just a plant to throw the rabid Legion fans off their track. Maybe it's just me, but I can't figure out how the show description relates to the title:

-- Class of 3000: The half-hour series featuring a group of musically gifted kids at the Westley School for Performing Arts in Atlanta is set to premiere in November. When former student Sunny Bridges returns to regain something he lost on his way to fame, he brings sunshine to the lives of the culturally diverse students. Andre Benjamin will contribute music and his voice talent to the series. Other cast members are Tom Kenny (SpongeBob SquarePants, Camp Lazlo), Crystal Scales (Static Shock, The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron), Jennifer Hale (Samurai Jack, The Powerpuff Girls), Janice Kawaye (Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi) and Jeff Glen Bennet (Johnny Bravo, Camp Lazlo). The series is produced by the Tom Lynch Co., Andre Benjamin’s production company, Moxie Turtle, and Cartoon Network. Twelve-half hour episodes and a one-hour premiere are being produced at Cartoon Network Studios in Burbank, Calif.

Oh, just googled him. Andre Benjamin is aka Andre 3000. Still never heard of him.

Guess you didn't read close enough Seymour:

The series featuring the Legion of Super-Heroes is headed for Kids' WB!, although it might eventually air on Cartoon Network, like The Batman.

Yay!

I just saw the press release from CN. It didn't mention Kids' WB! I'll have to give my contact at Kids' WB! a call tomorrow to see if I can get any other information from her. I'm surprised I didn't get their release. She's usually pretty good about that.

I found the info on Comics Contiuum and Toonzone . I couldn't find the Kids WB! press release anywhere so maybe it isn't out yet. So if you've got an in with the WB that would be great. But between those two I think that's confirmation enough for me.

I guess it really pays to attend the upfronts if you're a toon geek. There were whole series reported at Toonzone that weren't even mentioned in the Cartoon Network press release. What is CN's pr dept. thinking?

why must all the designs have such stylized anatomy? I know, I know it's a deliberate stylistic choice. But I find it as fugly as Rob Liefield's abominations (which are not done on purpose). I hate those wasp waists and exaggerated caricature faces.

I want to see a style more like genuine anime and manga in Japan. If you look at that art it has accurate anatomy, the only stylized parts are the eyes noses and mouths. The rest is totally anatomically correct.

Legion cartoon artists! Can we have correct anatomy please? Proper proportions! Women with room for internal organs!

It's like they have noticed the surface form of the anime style but none of the substance. This overly cartoony stuff seems more in the Western comic strip cartoon tradition than anything Eastern. Not that there's anything wrong with that but it was never really to my personal taste.

If the final cartoon is anything like any of these sketches I shall be very disappointed.

I'm not crazy that all the prelim sketches seem to be a throwback to the Chris Sprouse L belt designs that we just finally got rid of after outstaying their welcomes for several years. (they were great back in the day and I loved them but they were beginning to look hideously dated by the end!)

Base em on the Kitson designs I say!

It seems to me that the designs we've been seeing are more influenced by the Incredibles than anything else. Actually the very first ones that Hurikane posted looked like the Legion by Chuck Jones or Hank Ketcham to me. I don't think that the most stylized things we've seen are what we'll end up with. I certainly hope they scrapped the idea from when Steve Lightle worked on a pitch which saw the Legionnaires (and villians) transform into goofy "powered up" versions. I think Lightning Lad turned into a human lightning bolt or something equally dreadful.

Stick with the Timm style. It's worked this long and is practically it's own genre now.

Jamie

But the really important question is whether YTV is going to pick it up or not.

FABOO!!!

Just FYI, Bruce Timm has said this drawing (from James Tucker) is an early preliminary concept drawing, not the final version of what they'll look like. Apparently it'll be Timm-ier than this but not exactly what we saw/will see in the JLU episode.

Opiniated as ever, I have another thing to say about the cartoony style of artwork that seems beloved by the recent DC-related cartoons, that relates to what I said earlier about the possible LSH cartoon artwork.

I saw an episode of JLU, and I was irked by the excessive 'wasp waists' of the women. Yes, it even offended me a little. I don't expect the artists to slavishly adhere to reality. Yes it is stylized. Yes, the artists could draw totally accurate anatomy if they had to (unlike Rob Liefield and the godawful early 90s 'bad girl' artists.)

But-just as the perfectly spherical basketball breasts of the badly drawn, sword wielding blood spattered bad girls irked me because-women's bodies don't look like that dammit!-

The wasp waists of the JLU women irked me for the same reason.

Women's. Bodies.Do.Not.Look.Like.That.

I am a woman. My waist is more than 1 millimetre wide. Even cartoon women should look like they have room for internal organs.

So yeah, I probably am taking it far too seriously. And no, real men don't look like steroid packed muscle creatures either. But dammit, it irks me.

Personally I just don't like cartoony stylized anatomy. And that is that. But misrepresentation of women's bodies irks me greatly. There's enough body- facism about women's bodies as there is. Kids' cartoons don't need to add to it.

Death to wasp waists I say! No wasps waists for the Legion! Even Shrinking Violet has kidneys...

Wasp waists and otehr insane female anatomical silliness are not just the private domain of bruce tim animation. Look at the ridiculous breasts of most female superheroines or there costumes. It's ridiculous.

I have a beautiful Jill Thompson Lightning lass that looks like a REAL woman. I'd love for Jill to do the LSH.

Barry is doing a fine job though as well.

The Bruce Timm style women goes way back to Batman: TAS. Since they were invoking a 40's/50's feel to the show, that heavily influenced the way the women (and men) were drawn. Many of his women look like pin-ups from that era and it's entirely intentional.

I can understand that not everyone will like it but not every guy is built like Superman either....

Jamie

Anyone intersted in a look at the working logo for the Legion series? No? Okay, I'll just go home.

From Comics Continuum :



The article also spoke with Andy Milder, the voice of Lightning Lad and gave a list of Legionnaires we'll likely see. Click the link to the CC to read the full thing.

I understand that it's only a working logo.

But it's butt-ugly.

I like it. It is simple, kind of harkens back to previous Legion logos without really being tied to one and the use of the "S" symbol keeps the word Superboy from taking over.

Me likes it too.

My first impression echoes Matthew E's.
-heh-

Makes it look like the Legion is a Superboy spin-off doesn't it?

...waitaminute...

Okay, I'm waaaay behind the times, but I finally saw Far From Home tonight. Mm, the joys of having an external harddrive!!

Anyway. I absolutely adored it. Sure, the romance was pushed a little (lot) hard but I didn't really feel like the story suffered for it. I actually liked Supergirl more in this episode than I have, like, ever before.

Overall, I thought the story was clever and fun. I really liked the Emerald Empress, in both design and voice acting. She was bad and it was good.

The animation could've been a bit better, I agree, but I was just happy to see so many Legion cameos!! Even if some were in statue form... That was a major bummer.

I wish Cosmic Boy could've had more of a role (shocking, I know) and was very disappointed to see so few actual members of the Legion. I'd love to see Lyle (not the 3boot version), Nura, Jan (not the reboot version), Vi, Ayla, Dirk, Dawnstar or Jeckie show up in the cartoon. Jenni too but I'm not really that deluded.

I agree with the nitpicks on Shadow Lass's powers-- the first time I watched it, I wasn't even sure it was her! Also, why wasn't Cham orange? Has he been grey before? It struck me as odd...

I'll be curious to see if Valor or Andromeda show up, since the new cartoon is apparently Superboy's Legion. And the origin stories and whatnot, too. I'm excited, though I hope the animation is more toward the Timm style too. Actually, I was thinking the Evolution style would be great for the Legion-- it worked really well for the X-Men. But that's just my two cents...