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Interesting, Korbal. But of course 25ish years later, he's allowed to adjust his opinions - if he chooses to. He apparently has on Tyroc, at least.

Agreed. I love Tyroc but it's much more 'in spite of' than 'because of' his stupid powers and those completely ludicrous to read screams.

Give him vocal force-wave powers like Black Canary and the ability to teleport like Gates and he's good to go IMO.

Jim and Blacula, I have to agree with you about defining the limits of Tyroc's powers and those were excellent examples (Canary and Banshee). A part of a good story involves the hero overcoming her/his own limitations. IMHO, when the Archie LSH started "up-sizing" their powers (Brainiac 5.1, indeed!) is when the story-telling deteriorated rapidly. I believe that if he is motivated to do so, Levitz of all people will create an engaging Tyroc, much the way TMK turned Tenzil from a boring and useless character to one of the most enjoyable.

I welcome Earth-Man becoming a Legionnaire. The resulting conflict will be a great opportunity to expand characterization of the individual members and give us insight into the minds and personalities of our heroes. I am reminded of the Levitz storyline about the identity of Sensor Girl. I enjoyed hearing speculations from each Legionnaire and their reasoning. Even in the happiest of families there are conflicts, and in the chronicles of our super-family, conflicts and obstacles are absolutely necessary for engaging stories. Most likely, we will find the resolution of the Earth-Man plot as satisfying as that of "Who is Sensor Girl?"

Are you sure you're NOT Levitz, KryptonKid?
You write like a writer.
And you type like an office wizard!
How do you do that with no mistakes or misspellec words?!!!
gads

Good points, as well, of course.

"Boring and useless"? How dare you! Tenzil was NEVER boring!

<zips lip>

I know!!
So clear, so concise, so, ummm...correctly-spelled!!

I know that Lash will kill me for this... but I have never ever liked Matter-Eater Lad.

But I know that some people love him, and although I don't care to see him again, I know they do.

I like Tenzil Kem, as some sort of lawyer, politician, celebrity, etc. and wouldn't mind seeing him around as some sort of Gigi Cusimano / Shvaugn Erin / Dr. Gym'll like supporting character.

I don't really like Matter-Eater Lad. His powers are too silly, and writers attempt to make him appear effective by having him bite people's guns in half or something equally ludicrous.

And to double-down on heresy, I don't like the super-pets, either!

I didn't either Set. I expect to be banned any moment... LOL

Both of you are

me, too.

ooops

don't worry. You me and Set can form the Legion of Villainous Message Board Posters.

Ohhh I get to be a Founder of something!

Thank you so much. The fact is I have never spelled well. Before I post I usually double check all polysyllabic words!

As far as Tenzy goes, I really wasn't commenting on his particular magnificence, but rather the writers' intimidation at the thought of handling such a stellar presence. If it were not for his oozing manly hetero-ness I would definitely date him. The fact that I am insane for ear-nibbling notwithstanding.

I DID catch the typo 'c' and was going to change it, but it seemed so appropriate that I just left it.
I'm glad you picked up on it.
(True story!)

A tribute to Titan:


photo from the Cassini Mission, NASA

Okay, I’ve finally gone out and got LSH #1 after realizing if I waited until I do my normal comic book run, this thread would end up with 10,000 pages. I’ll post my initial reactions and then read the thread and post any additional comments (which could take days).

First: welcome back Paul! You’ve been missed and more than I think you really know. My dream Legion run since I’ve been a fan (age 15) has been the return of Paul Levitz even though his Legion run ended when I wasn’t even 10 years old yet. And so far it seems seamless, like he’s gotten any writer’s rust out of his system already. As a writer he accomplishes several things, many of which he’s famous for. The pacing of the story is spot-on, giving us something many other comics of this era do not, which is the sense that we are actually getting somewhere, while allowing various subplots and character moments to filter in. He’s able to balance a large cast and I have a feeling that as time goes on it will be larger and larger per issue and I can’t wait for that—but I don’t mind a limited number of Legionnaires in the early issues as the creative team finds their stride and any potential new fans aren’t overloaded. And he is able to give us a ton of information in various forms without being obvious in his usage of filling in the reader.

The artwork by Yildiray Cinar was also a solid performance in #1 and I really can’t wait to see how the art grows over time. I already love the depiction of Sun Boy, Phantom Girl and a bunch of others who I didn’t think were quite ‘right’ under Gary Frank’s pencils, even though I might not have realized it at the time.

Love the inclusion of Gigi, the intro of Aven in this continuity and the new introduction of Harmonia Li. The Legion, despite being a huge cast, needs an ongoing set of non-Legion supporting characters and it feels good to see the mythos ‘growing’ again, rather than what has felt like re-re-reintroductions these last few years.

The Earth Man plot line is I think a great hook to get readers of the Action story to be interested while also providing a very sharp dynamic to push the story forward. I understand some other readers are upset about his inclusion but you can see the Legionnaires feeling exactly the same way, so I don’t see the problem. I’ll definitely give the story some time to judge for myself.

The Green Lantern stuff isn’t as distracting as I thought it’d be and I understand it’s a necessary evil to bring in new readers (because GL is just a hot property now). Am I thrilled by its inclusion? No, not really. But I’ll let it pass if it a solid story can come of it.

Thinking in terms of the larger DCU mythos, when Krona saw the birth of creation, it unleashed the Anti-Monitor. I wonder if the same thing will occur, or just what has been unleashed? This certainly gives the opportunity to introduce a Darkseid-in-GDS level threat for the first large arc.

I thought the star of the first issue was Imra and I’m really happy with that. Imra-haters will complain with her stealing the spotlight but I say good! Imra is an icon and if ever there were new readers now is the time, and they should thus be introduced to her (and Brainy) in full effect. It feels good to see the ‘real Imra’ back in action too, as the super-competent, Legion leader / mom / telepath supreme that she is. Now if only she could get her hair back and get rid of the awful Rosemary’s Baby cut.

Glad to see Dawny & Jo flying outside the cruisers and Jo noting the limitations of his power. The technique of informing readers of a character’s power by explaining its limitations is a tried and true method that is not often used anymore and should be done more often. Readers love that kind of thing. I’d like to see more instances of Legionnaires using their powers (or unable to do so) other than fighting in a huge gang-fight ‘dog pile on the rabbit’ scenario.

Am I getting ahead of myself in seeing a potential Harmonia Li / Brainy romance?

I note Chuck & Lu are back at the Legion Academy. I’m cool with that—I’ve always loved them in that role.

I’m hoping soon we’ll get a full listing of the current Legion roster so we’re not all left wondering.

Something else else I’m really hoping Paul includes: Encyclopedia Galactica entries and other type narration techniques.

All in all, I’m pretty pleased with #1 and can’t wait for more of the series! I’m pretty pumped on the Legion for the first time in many years and all the excitement I’m feeling towards Paul’s return seems to be paying off!

PS - what the heck are some of you talking about with Imra having a TK power? I saw nothing of the sort!

Besides, any telekinesis Imra has can be attributed to the flight ring.

PPS - Kent had a good point on page 2 of this thread, that the 'upside down rocket ship' inspired Legion HQ thing has been done so many times its kind of weak now. Time to move on! Give us an awesome Legion HQ again.

PPPS - Polar Boy totally scored with some hot Tharrian chick! His friendship with Dirk is already paying dividends!

PPPS - "Chronicles are inaccurate"...brillaint way to explain away lesser writers and editors inability to handle continuity.

Great observation rogue and I totally agree!

nice Titan poster, Candy!

It almost has an "embryo"-esqueness to it's dark centre, sort of like if you held up a 5 day old chicken egg to a light.
Very cool.

Hey, gimme a break ok? It's the end of the day, I'm tired, and I probably had too much brandy.

Those are when the most brillaint posts happen!