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Re: Legion Of Super Heroes #1
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[b] Imra's arms remained free and she then concentrated really hard and hit Quicksand with that mental telekinetic bolt, knocking her out, which freed the rest of the group.
Umm, what? Telekinesis is using your mind to move things. A "telekinetic bolt" whose only effect is to knock someone unconscious isn't telekinesis, it's telepathy.[/b]
Technically, it's could be either TK or TP depending on what the 'knockout punch' was, mental or physical.

But, I agree that the blow was probably mental.
Only, why would such a simple TP act for Imra make her pass out?
hm [/b]
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I guess it's hard for some to imagine that the attack on Quicksand might be the start of TK control ala Jean Grey.
But not hard to imagine for me.

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in the 80s, the looser style was called 'Marvel stiyle,' a trad that began with Stan giving artists the gist of what he wanted, and then dialoguing to fit the art.

DC was always famous/notorious for scripts, but some teams dabbled with looser styles from the 80s onward. I'm not sure what Paul prefers, but as far as I know he came out of the full-script tradition that DC expected in the 70s.
If Cinar interview on a blog is correct (don't have the link here - it's on his Twitter though), Paul wrote full scripts.

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Levitz fairly notoriously disliked Tyroc, so I doubt we're going to see him--unless someone has seen a preview/interview contradicting that?

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[b] </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by future king:
<strong> Imra's arms remained free and she then concentrated really hard and hit Quicksand with that mental telekinetic bolt, knocking her out, which freed the rest of the group.
Umm, what? Telekinesis is using your mind to move things. A "telekinetic bolt" whose only effect is to knock someone unconscious isn't telekinesis, it's telepathy.[/b]
Technically, it's could be either TK or TP depending on what the 'knockout punch' was, mental or physical.

But, I agree that the blow was probably mental.
Only, why would such a simple TP act for Imra make her pass out?
hm[/b]
I assume it must take alot to actually shut another person's mind down to an unconscious state.

With TK, you'd have to actually pick up some object and hit her with it, or pick her up and batter her against something.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've read many, many stories using TK.
Depending on the perimeters set by the authors, there is absolutely no reason for someone with TK to have to resort to a weapon.
And it would be easy to support someone from behind while popping them on the chin or squeesing a nerve or even jolting a heart muscle.

Jean could arrange molecules.
A TK doesn't need to be nearly as powerful as her to do incredible things with just a little 'twist'.

I'm sure this is all mute if Paul said he didn't intend Imra to have the power.
Unless, . . .


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Tyroc better refer to Earth Man as "honky" at least once!

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Thanks, 'Crawler...I've been out of the loop too long.

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Tyroc better refer to Earth Man as "honky" at least once!
Other than TMK, I've yet to read a single Tyroc story--did Tyroc really say "honky"? If so (and I realize he probably didn't), that would be THE COOLEST THING EVER!!!


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No... but it would still be THE COOLEST THING EVER! wink

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Crap! Rhino's Harmonia thread got me thinking about the ambiguous nature of this story's threat thus far. With time being mucked with, could Paul be leading with a Time Trapper arc? Oddly, enough, that hadn't occurred to me until now.

I honestly hope he isn't, given the recentness of L3W.


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If I know Levitz, odds are its some vaguely defined personification of an abstract concept or other!

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That's so cool, NC!
I don't know what Tyroc will look like but I hope he looks like my version in Bits. . .!
(Fat chance, I know.)
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Yeah, hopefully Tyroc's return doesn't coincide with the next hit for Deathstroke's Titans. :rolleyes:


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Hmm... does that mean that a huge number of latent Titanian sociopaths are now away from the calming radiation of Saturn's rings, and thusly are free to be active sociopaths with mental powers?


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Somone asked about Gates. I can't recall exactly where, but in an interview I thought Paul mentioned that Gates' teleporting made Vi sick so I bet we see them in the next issue or two as well.


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Hmm... does that mean that a huge number of latent Titanian sociopaths are now away from the calming radiation of Saturn's rings, and thusly are free to be active sociopaths with mental powers?
No, What you're describing is the explanation for Saturn Queen. Saturn Queen is an Adult Legion character only and never appeared in normal continuity (except during the TMK era, which isn't in continuity). So there isn't actually any reason to believe that Saturn's rings have any effect in normal continuity.

Edit: Actually, it turns out she appeared in Legion of Three Worlds and in Superman/Batman.

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Yeah, hopefully Tyroc's return doesn't coincide with the next hit for Deathstroke's Titans. :rolleyes:
Animated-'verse Tyroc looked really good. They should have given him some actual time in the spotlight. [grumble]


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[b]Hmm... does that mean that a huge number of latent Titanian sociopaths are now away from the calming radiation of Saturn's rings, and thusly are free to be active sociopaths with mental powers?
No, What you're describing is the explanation for Saturn Queen. Saturn Queen is an Adult Legion character only and never appeared in normal continuity (except during the TMK era, which isn't in continuity). So there isn't actually any reason to believe that Saturn's rings have any effect in normal continuity.

Edit: Actually, it turns out she appeared in Legion of Three Worlds and in Superman/Batman.[/b]
She also appeared quite a bit in the Silver Age stories - but as a character from even the Legion's future.


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She also appeared quite a bit in the Silver Age stories - but as a character from even the Legion's future.
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She didn't appear that often, her next appearance was in Adventure 331, where she was still from the Legion's future. She claims she "have in to the desire to become a super-criminal", without specifically mentioning Saturn's rings.

I think it's still out of continuity, though. At best, the LSV in that story has to have come from an alternate timeline.

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even so, let's face it - any decisions you or I say about what is or isn't in continuity is speculative. Things that are out can be re-added. It's not really up to us.


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Awesome news about Tyroc! I hope he isn't the Black Panther in the 31st century (he never really was).

I am for as much V5 TMK easter eggs as possible. When it first came out I was still in shock of the dismantling of my favorite team but after 12 issues I realized that was some really high quality stuff!

After the Levitz run TMK is my next favorite!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ultra Jorge:
[QB]Awesome news about Tyroc! I hope he isn't the Black Panther in the 31st century (he never really was).

LOL.
On the opposite side of the Tyroc coin I hope he doesn't come back with a Samuel L. Jackson-esque "attitude" about everything, you know... too cool for the world and way too full of himself. That cliche stereotype would be just as bad, if not worse.
Maybe we'll see him come back just as a normal, even tempered verteran who can be taken seriously, and with better control of his powers. That would make him useful and sought-after in this new series, when the situation arises.

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[b]Hmm... does that mean that a huge number of latent Titanian sociopaths are now away from the calming radiation of Saturn's rings, and thusly are free to be active sociopaths with mental powers?
No, What you're describing is the explanation for Saturn Queen. Saturn Queen is an Adult Legion character only and never appeared in normal continuity (except during the TMK era, which isn't in continuity). So there isn't actually any reason to believe that Saturn's rings have any effect in normal continuity.

Edit: Actually, it turns out she appeared in Legion of Three Worlds and in Superman/Batman.[/b]
Actually, Levitz, himself, once commented on that first LSV story when reprinted in the ADVENTURE Digests. He deemed the crimelessness on Titan and the mental powers of its people a "pivotal part" of Legion mythos.


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Ugh. Tyroc. I hope he's more like Banshee this time around instead of having those ridiculous screams that can do anything.


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