Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Giffen is doing LSH Annual!!!

I agree. I think he'd appreciate the honesty about his craft. I wouldn't hold back if Keith was on here ... I didn't with Francis.

I enjoyed Giffen's work when he first came to the Legion but once he drastically changed his style then I started to lose interest. That's it.

I think this argument should be put to rest once and for all, but my last two cents worth on it is this:

I'm quite sure Keith Giffen knew that a lot of fans would be displeased when he changed his artistic style drastically after the Great Darkness Saga, and again in 5YL, and he chose to do it anyway, knowing full well it would cause an outcry from the readers. I'm quite sure he's heard all these criticisms before and was not surprised by them, so I don't think he'd be surprised to read them again today.

p.s. I think I even got a letter published, in which I complained about Giffen's new style back in the day, but don't ask me what issue.

the cover is in a style that is not what "we" expect in a legion cover. think of Darwyn Cooke for example.
having said that, i don't like it either. it doesn't convey future. it doesn't make me want to buy the issue. it mostly comes of as a nostalgia, tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. not a "must-buy".
not exciting. not happening. something for the old legion fans, but a wink wink to the cool nu kids. ick.

What? Think Darwyn Cooke doing an LSH cover?

Don't get my hopes up!

I learned recently that many people dislike Jack Kirby's artwork. It was at that point that I realized, many people don't have my refined tastes in art. Same goes for the Giffen conversation.

While I'm personally excited about Giffen returning, I think something a lot of us might agree on is that there is a genuine sense that many of Legion history's best creators are looking to return to the fold. There are rumors of Jim Sherman also doing a story with Paul.

In an era where continuity is a topic that makes fans baby-making areas shrivel up and die, it's nice to know that creators who truly *know* the Legion are getting back involved. On the opposite side and equally nice, is that Levitz is intent to push forward with a sense of 'new', in new situations, stories and characters and not focus on continuity itself. I'm glad for that dynamic: people who know the franchise but don't seem intent on focusing soley on the minutae of the past.

The idea that we're having a Legion Annual again is terrific. Levitz always wrote great annuals. Maybe Eryk, Lardy, myself and others heads will explode if Darwyn Cooke could do Annual #2! Jim Lee could do the back-up because it would take a year to get 8 pages out of him.

bad argument, counsellor.

this approach seems to suggest that there are only two approaches, and they automatically carry equal weight. Not finding the art poor does not mean one liked the art; one could find it mediocre - just not poor.

Moreover, someone bashing another's favorite artist does not seem to be comparable with someone else defending an artist one dislikes. Let's say I hypothetically hate the work of an artist named Lief Robfeld. If you come along and say Robfeld's work isn't that bad, am I likely to get offended? Or merely assume you have different/odd/no taste?

It seems to me it would take such a severe hate-on for anyone to really get miffed that suggesting a disliked artist's work "isn't that bad" would trigger the same reaction as someone dissing an artist actually liked.

she's shown in the issue where the emerald empress appears again searching for answers for immortality. Danielle is shown playing with some other kids then when jacques appears she wants to spend time with him alone and complains about it to the other children who want to monopolize his time (cause he's a famous legionnaire).

I owe Mr. Giffen an apology. I shouldn't have been so rude.

Are you being sarcastic?

No.

Has anyone heard anything more about the annual? Any cover solicits yet? I wonder if it will come out any sooner than the one year anniversary of the new book.

Cover and announcement on Newsarama:

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/levitz-giffen-legion-annual-100920.html

And at the Source:

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2010/09/20/levitz-giffen-reunite-on-legion-of-super-heroes/

I like that cover:


The Empress' outfit is very Kirby-esque. Can anyone tell who drew this? It's a radical change if it's Keith Giffen.

OMG! I LOVE that cover!

I wonder who the artist is? It looks familiar but I can't place it. I'd love it if it is Giffen since that'll mean he's still capable of drawing in a less 'out-there', stylistic style than what we've seen from him over the last few years.

Plus - a "NEW" Emerald Empress? Does that mean the EE we've been seeing since Lo3W wasn't Sarya? Or is Paul ret-conning those appeances away or something? Would love to see a Cera Kesh appearance in all this.

Interesting choice of Legionnaires too. I wonder if the new EE won't be the only thing 'coming out' of this issue?

At the very least, it looks like there'll finally be a spotlight on somebody other than The Big Four.

SQEEEEEE.

OK, THIS Empress LOOKS Imperial. And I feel SO sorry for any artist that has to draw this outfit in the future. She has a cape crinoline, for Brand's sake! (I'm sure there's a proper term for that thingie, but "cape crinoline" was best I could do.) And look out boys. She's got a whip, and she knows how to use it.

I am just guessing, but I would say the cover pencils are from Giffen, with an inker I can't pin down.

Giffen has dabbled with Kirbyesque style before (which I like). Compare this cover to the Legends cover of the Legion. The style looks similar to me.

It's Giffen.
To quote the source.."He's mixing Kirby with his '90s Legion style and a modern sensibility."

This is gonna be soooo good.

Like I said, I owe him an apology.

Magneto better watch out. Lorna Dane is not happy.

It's most assuredely Giffen's art; he does Kirby almost as well as Kirby himself. Proof of this can be seen in his 70s runs on CHALLENGERS OF THE UNKNOWN and THE DEFENDERS.

She's Magneto's daughter. When was she EVER happy?

Love Love Love that cover! I love the Keith's ever-evolving styles. I recently re-read the 5 year later era, and his style there has really grown on me. I hated it at first, but now looking back, I have much love for it.