Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Legion February 2009 Solicitations and Images ... SPOILERS

taking action comics and adventure comics side by side... lopresti can draw some really pretty boy legs

speaking of which, check out the interview of Bedard's R.E.B.E.L.S. book:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18891

the title has an awesome Billy Idol reference to boot. the team is composed of veterans Vril Dox and Strata, along with Wildstar, Tribulus, Bounder, and the Emerald Princess.

... and he says it is indeed a 21st Century book, contrary to what Previews seemed to indicate.
By the way, what an awesome artist they found in Andy... Kudos to Mike Marts for getting such talent to LEGION (I refuse to accept the REBELS moniker). And it is great to see the passion of Bedard to such title. Hopefully, it will be tons better than his LSH fill-in (which was below Waid's weakest moments).

Gives me shivers.
I can hardly wait!

Seems to have a pretty good vision of what Dox is, that's mandatory. Googled some of the artist's work and it's fabulous. In the Rebels panels, there's a bit of Kitson and a bit of Giffen wouldn't you say?

What I really love about it, it was his idea, something he wanted to do. I'll always throw a few bucks that way. Let creative people create,...

... except Giffin because you need a few of the characters to live in order to tell the story.

i don't think it's contradicting the previews blurb. dox and rebels exists in the 21st century, but he's basing his team on people from the 31st century.

edit: oh duh i forgot, can anyone hook us up with links to some andy clarke art?

edit 2: I MEAN OTHER THE OENS IN THE ARTICLES. i mean.. past work.. type stuff..

man, the inking is NICE...!!!

I find this very odd....as they are kind of equivalent to the Fatal Five - for instance -

Vril Dox - brilliance and strategist master - Tharok
Emerald Princess - eye wielder - Emerald Empress
Tribulus - mind lightning control? and size - Validus
Wildstar - faceless and energy - Mano
Strata - crystalline/diamond that can "cut" - Persuader

Bounder - hmmm - no idea - ?? perhaps Caress? Flame? ehe.

Any thoughts on which Legion it will be in REBELS?

Threeboot? Johnsboot? or a post Lo3W merged Legion?

can someone help fill me in?
i'm clueless about the old L.E.G.I.O.N. team.
why does Strata look like a male but everyone says "she".
and she's from Blok's homeworld?

Read these threads for more info -

Before the Legion of Super-Heroes, there was the L.E.G.I.O.N. &
A Look Back: L.E.G.I.O.N. #1-51 .

And, yes, Strata is a member of Blok's race the Dryads and the females look like the males.

I think Dream Girl was just referring to B-5s trip to the old section of Metropolis where he meets Madame M.

I would love to see some of the 'classic' stories retold and re-envisioned.

It's been thirty years, many of them are extremely dated, and upgrading Computo to make it as scary and potentially apocalyptic as the Robotican menace or revisiting Mordru and making him fit better into the post-Alan Moore DC supernatural setting and less of a comical figure would be interesting.

Just skip the part where every single issue has to have a bunch of people die for no good reason, which is something from the modern day that I'm not really seeing the need for.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing the Adventure era stories retold by someone I trusted (the Bierbaums, for example, kind of per their original plans for the Legionnaires series).

There's actually plenty of pointless deaths in the stories for modern readers as well, just not deaths of main characters. Just ask, well, just about every prisoner in the Super-Stalag of Space.

The Bierbaums!
I had SO forgotten them!
Where did they go?!
This sounds terrible and I'll try to look it up when I go home, but who was their main artist?

I think I could be interested in a rewrite series with that team back together.
AND if they had creative leeway to make enough changes to truly update the stories.
Like no Shrinking Violet cowering in corners, etc..
New insights and characters and additional plots would be good, too.

Set, it's actually been 40 years. Don't you hate it when those decades slip away? I know I do.

Candle, does Keith Giffen ring any bells?

I'm in denial about the whole over-40 thing. Lemme alone!

I think she meant Chris Sprouse, the artist on Legionnaires.

Did the Bierbaums write that? I don't remember that at all, but then I don't really follow the writers. It's all about the art imho.

They also worked with Jason Pearson and Stuart Immonen during 5YG. Giffen plotted a lot of that timeframe too.

Depends on which changes they make. I would love to see a retelling of the death and resurection of Lightning Lad because I think those stories have some wonderful themes, esp when dealing with the young and mortality. BUT, I would want to make sure those changes are done with respect to the original characters and major themes of the Legion, I would worry if someone told me updates were happening, that Garth's personality would be changed to being a brash jerk, that the Legionnaires would all be jerks or simply unheroic. Thus destroying the themes that do exist and replacing them with "modern" themes that really have nothing to do with the original Legion.

Sigh, I'm really too young to be this croatchety...

Yes, Chris was the one I was thinking of.
The young, crisp version was fun, with Cera and Catspaw. They were the ones that introduced Quantum Kid, too, I think.

Okay work but not nearly so wonderful.
For Immonen, I remember truly disliking the coloring, so flat and lifeless.

They wrote while Giffen drew the first 5YG or they took over for Giffen later on?
gads

Well, they were clones and the one who really changed was Garth. But, this was the Garth without the Proty resurrection. He might have been different without the change in soul.

DnA portrayed Garth as different, too.

I didn't necessarily like the Proty transfer to a living but empty body explanation but the idea DID explained a lot of Lightning Lad's adult problems.
And Sun Boy was so featureless in the early Legion stories, so flat that ANY personality was welcome to me.

I work with kids and even the heroes are brash and selfinvolved and often heartless. They're kids.
I just liked to see them as such.

I'm sorry the changes bothered you.

What bothered ME was Giffin's drawing so many characters with shadowing that left out the noses!
I remember writing a letter to DC about the impossibility, as I saw it.
lol

i put that proty 1 as garth in the glorith universe solely.

Candle: [snip]

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...I didn't necessarily like the Proty transfer to a living but empty body explanation but the idea DID explained a lot of Lightning Lad's adult problems...

See, I had always figured that just dying and then coming back to life was enough to explain Lightning Lad. If I'd been reading along during the whole Proty explanation, I think I would have found it more than a little creepy.

I mean, I like the storyline where Gim realized that he'd fallen for "the wrong woman," but it's bad to reflect on it too much-- because if you do, it's actually kind of freaky and wrong. Hi. I know I jumped in the sack with you while pretending to be somebody else, which might be borderline criminal under certain circumstances-- but, you still love me anyway ? Oh, you do. Great.

I made myself accept that by imagining that they had some huge argument about it off-panel. Then Yera apologized and he forgave her. But even that much forgiveness would be a stretch for me. I don't know if I could do it, no matter how kind and good-looking my "accidental" spouse was.

YMMV. I guess when in doubt, accept Berger's long-time assertion that it's soap with spaceships, which means that certain tropes have to be adhered to or the story won't go anywhere.

Hell, the "soap with spaceships" is one of the big reasons I fell in love with the Legion. There were romances and marriages. They didn't always get along with each other (gawd, the fights some of the guys had with Dream Girl got elected leader were hysterical not to mention her problems with always breaking a nail in battle). There were deep friendships and there were rivalries. However, when it came down to it in the end, they fought alongside one another for the greater good.