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Re: Superman/Batman #14 surprise (spoilers)
#599739 11/18/04 10:22 PM
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I'm loving it so foar, but did anyone notice the continuity mistake regardin Aquaman's origin? His dad is Atlan, not Arthur Curry, Sr.


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Oh, Loeb's made that mistake Every. Frelling. Time. he's used or mentioned Aquaman. He's a dedicated Pre-Crisionist.


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It was also odd that they killed Hal Jordan to prevent the existence of Green Lantern. When Abin Sur crashed, the ring would've gone to Guy Gardner (or *someone*) instead of Jordan. Why wouldn't they have gotten rid of Wonder Woman as well?

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I questioned that too. It would have been smart of them to find a way to negate Thymescria sending a rep to the rest of the world...and I hadn't thought about Green lantern, to de-power Jordan they simply needed to prevent Abin Sur from crashing to Earth.

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but can anyone tell me why Loser is in that picture, is he moonlighting as Cosmic King lol
What can I say. I was young, I needed the money... lol

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it was pretty good. unfortunately we got to see the pre-JLA eliminated the same way in that Planetary Elseworlds special where WW, Bats, and Supes form Planetary. other than that i've been jonesin' for the original LSV for a looong time now. wasn't expecting uncle sam!


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#599745 11/20/04 08:56 AM
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it was pretty good. unfortunately we got to see the pre-JLA eliminated the same way in that Planetary Elseworlds special where WW, Bats, and Supes form Planetary.
It reminded me of that "Challenge of the Superfriends" show where the Legion of Doom prevented the heroes' origins from happening.

To get rid of Wonder Woman, I think they made her lose that contest to see who would be their emisary.

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Wouldn't that just mean some other Amazon would become Wonder Woman? Of course, no other Amazon matches Diana, so perhaps they made short work of her. (Remember, what was her name, Oreana? She was a pre-Crisis red-head who replaced Diana and died within one or two issues.)


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I just hope the LSV has more on panel time in the next issue. Clark seems to be questioning things already and by the looks of things Diana and Sam are going to form some new version of the JLA to whoop-up on the big two.
I hope that there's some connection made to the LSV's own hometime before the story arc runs it's course.

Hey Steve!! Has there been any discussion with you and Mark about the way this story has to go or are they just going in their own direction? We're really curious whether this incarnation of the LSV is going to exist later on or if this is a one-shot appearence.

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Wouldn't that just mean some other Amazon would become Wonder Woman? Of course, no other Amazon matches Diana, so perhaps they made short work of her. (Remember, what was her name, Oreana? She was a pre-Crisis red-head who replaced Diana and died within one or two issues.)
Well, post-Crisis, Artremis did better than that.


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She's still alive. Or alive again, at least. I figured Artemis was the rebooted version of Oreana but with a name change to reflect her status as Wonder Woman (Diana = Artemis on Olympus).


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So is there a Kara Zor-El or not? Or is it still unresolved?


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So is there a Kara Zor-El or not? Or is it still unresolved?
There is and she's wearing an "S" shield and calling herself Supergirl. The story ended with her "coming out" in costume being introduced to the rest of the heroes. Where DC will take her from here is anyone's guess...

(my guess is that she'll rise to prominence in this upcoming big event/crisis that DC is planning - kindof a counterpoint to the original Kara dying in "Crisis")

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So how do they explain the new Supergirl in light of the old Supergirl dying in Crisis? Sorry, but my comics budget cannot afford another monthly...


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They don't. Supposedly (Continuity-wise), this is the first time Kara Zor-El comes to Earth.

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And for THAT, we waited three+ months for the Pacheco arc.

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It takes a long time to not draw backgrounds and emotionless faces, Pov!

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As much as I've loved the Superman/Batman comic so far (and that's coming from someone who doesn't even really like Superman OR Batman!) I gotta say that the final issue of that Supergirl arc was the most vomit-inducing kack I've read all year! What a disappointment! And the arc had started out so well too!

At least we're back on track with the latest issue by Pacheco! Loved it!

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Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
They don't. Supposedly (Continuity-wise), this is the first time Kara Zor-El comes to Earth.
She's from the same place the new Doom Patrol comes from.

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Someone should really have dropped a "send them to another dimension" bomb on that scene. It'd have taken out all the prominent superheroes in one fell swoop.


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You know, I meant to buy this story arc after reading about it in another thread but after seeing that scene I'm glad they were sold out of those issues. I'll just spend that cash on a Liberty Meadows book and a couple of issues of Exiles or something.

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Oh my gosh, that is one hideous Supergirl. What happened to her torso?!


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So how do they explain the new Supergirl in light of the old Supergirl dying in Crisis? Sorry, but my comics budget cannot afford another monthly...
Supergirl died during the Crisis. Afterward, she "never existed". This is the first since since Crisis that we ave a Kara Zor-El Supergirl. (Well, if you don't count the pre-Crisis Supergirl showing up briefly.)


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[b]They don't. Supposedly (Continuity-wise), this is the first time Kara Zor-El comes to Earth.
She's from the same place the new Doom Patrol comes from. [/b]
I wouldn't think so. We've had a [better] DP around since Crisis. That all their post-Crisis adventures have vanished without cause makes no sensse. We've never had a post-Crisis Kara Zor-El.


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