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Yes.
I kind of hate that fact.

Which is kind of strange since I watch things like 'Criminal Minds' and a lot of news.

I guess I like to balance my life with hopeful scifi and fantasy works.

I watch Criminal Minds too, Candle. It's a show that deals with murders. It's supposed to be violent. They still manage to keep it from becoming overly depressing, while acknowledging that it's not all sunshine. And of course, the ray of hope is that there are good people who work hard to stop these killers.

Just like the Legion I guess they're the ray of hope when their universe gets too dark.

Hmmmmm... Off the top of my head, There was the werewolf in the Creature Commandos. The Hyena (an old Firestorm adversary) was a werehyena. Jimmy Olsen was a wolfboy once. Man-Bat is a werebat. And there were various werewolf menaces different heroes encountered from time to time. I don't think DC ever had a regular werewolf character like Marvel's Werewolf by Night.

For all the popularity of vampires (and, to a lesser extent, werewolves) in popular media, there don't seem to be a lot of them as long-lasting superheroes or villains.

Brin/Furball and Rahne/Wolfsbane are about as close as they've gotten to a long-term werewolf superhero, and the only vampire superhero I remember was that Team Titans guy. Comic-book 'werewolves' are more likely to be super-people who can turn into wolves or wolf-like humanoids, and not supernatural creatures.

An actual mystical lycanthrope, only able to be killed by silver or fire or whatever, could make for an interesting twist on the 'invulnerable' superhero.

The new Creature Commandos! Starring Dagon/Nightrider, Wolfsbane and Boy Zombie! Or not...

There's also Fang of the Imperial Guard, not that we've ever seen much of him though.

Batman fought a vampire or two back in his very early days!

The new Frankenstein series has a werewolf character, albeit the result of a lab experiment rather than a true lycanthrope. Not exactly a superhero, but nonetheless existing in the DCnU, which is a universe defined by superheroes, after all.

Looker of Outsiders is a vampire, too.

This may have been a dream but I seem to recall a Batman title (from within about the last 5 years) that showed him sitting at the Bat-Computer looking at head-shots of all the werewolf-type characters of the DCU for the purposes of some case.

I can't remember who was on it other than I'm pretty sure Anthony Lupus (from http://www.comics.org/issue/27290/cover/4/ and http://www.comics.org/issue/35587/cover/4/ ) was there.

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edited to add - Wikipedia mentions that "A photo of Anthony Lupus was featured in "Trinity" #7" so that might have been the comic this scene occurred in.

Agreed.
That team of profilers comes across as a superhero group, imo.


I suppose that's why I disliked having EM as a Legionnaire, so much.
It's one thing to interview a serial killer/mass murder for insight into a case, it's another thing entirely, to make one a perminent part of the team, especially one that hasn't had a change of heart or served any time.
oh well

Thanks everyone for the vampire and werewolf information!
Did the Magic series or any of the Vertigos have them as ongoing characters?

It's funny that there have been so few in comics where they've been major players in so many TV series and movies!

Brin's not really a werewolf, but I think it would be interesting if he had to deal with some changing, especially the inconventient kind.

I know! Earth-Man hadn't shown any remorse at all by that time. That is also why I lost a lot of respect for Shadow Lass when she started her involvement with Earth-Man. Breaking up with Mon-El was understandable... but falling for EM???

I see Harmonia Li in the same light. She bears some responsibility for a lot of devastation, but neither she nor any of the Legionnaires seem to give that any thought.

Agreed, Tracker.
I liked her better before we found out she's an elemental who could have impacted the Time Institute/Titan destruction.

Shady breaking up with Lar didn't make sense to me, especially since he was supposed to be a much stronger character in the retroboot, with Cham giving him hope of rescue and his year of extended heroing during the New Krypton/Action stories.
In the original boot, she stayed with him through Elro weakness and his destruction by the Time Trapper.
That's how I became sure that it was the retroboot, rather than the original boot, which was further reinforced by her relationship with EM.
This Tasmia just isn't anywhere near the caliber of the original, or the rebooted Umbra, for that matter.
IMO.

My theory is that the Shadow Lass we've been reading about for the past couple years is actually Lady Memory, who used her mental powers to take over Tasmia's body sometime before the v6 series started.

Breaking up with Lar and hooking up with someone like Absorbancy Boy sounds about her speed.

Hermit, that's an interesting theory. Shades of Yera and Violet!

I completely agree. Preboot Tasmia stayed by Lar and even married him when he was at death's door; and she didn't even blame Brainiac 5 or the other conspirators, but accepted Lar's decision to go against the Time Trapper.

She was still an emotional woman, but she coupled that with maturity and rationality.

As for Harmonia Li, I agree, it's not as if she couldn't have blown the scientists away with her wind powers. She had better have a good reason for her inaction!

I also like the greater strength they're giving Mon-El. That v3 story where he developed an immunity to his lead serum, and went nuts lost me a lot of respect for him. I can understand his despair, but he came across as an extremely whiny and cowardly hero... if he was able to withstand the first 1000 year exile in the zone, you'd think he'd at least be able to wait a few days to see if he could be cured before going bonkers and tearing up Legion HQ,yeah?

I might be remembering it wrong, but I got the impression that while she knew it wasn't a good idea to use the time viewer to watch the creation of the universe, she didn't actually know how bad an idea it was - I didn't think she was actually aware that it was going to destroy Titan.

Of course, that doesn't explain why she didn't use her powers to help people during the actual crisis. It really seems like Harmonia having powers and joining the Legion is some spur of the moment whim that Levitz came up with much later after she was introduced and unfortunately it's not really the best idea he's ever had...

She's an interesting supporting character but I don't see that she has shown anything at all to indicate she should be any kind of superhero (let alone on the team!)....if her only purpose in joining the team is to raise the number of females on the roster, I can think of like a dozen women I would prefer to see before her....

Or... the Return of Uli Algor!

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We got lost, looking for werewolves and murderers.... and who knows, maybe the Lost team themselves are discussing Tasmia's behaviour.

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Was struck by the 2-page spread of Tellus featuring Kal and Kara, and explaining the team's reluctance to involve them. Wonder if Mon-El's (assuming the events of Action Annual #10 remain valid) presence in the Phantom Zone will be addressed--perhaps in the upcoming crossover with SUPERBOY and TEEN TITANS?

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I just read # 3. I am simply not that into it.

I'm sorry I get off topic and lead others astray.
I guess I'm just used to regular conversations that tend to just go where they will.
That's what happens when you grow up without being on the internet.

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