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The lesson was it wasn't a brilliant proof of Terrific's mental power but that they let themselves get suckered by a cheap trick instead of reasoning it out.

Powergirl Recently sold a very successful software company. She will probably never need a day job again. Oh and when you can turn coal into diamonds with your fist I think you are ok for dough. Stop getting all your background from Fan Films ;-) although I love that one
about PG looking for a job

Because Black Lightning Shot him from Behind. That's why he tells Batman he cheated.

Well Starman says something like The white angel is screaming at <lightneing Lad> which makes me think LL is who she was talkign to in that panel from JSA 1

thanks for the info wndola1. I will have to check out that fan film soon as my connection allows.

I hope Wildfire is one of them as well, can't remember a cool version of him in any of the Reboots. As for LL, the interlac and the title of the arc, I think he isn't a member of the "seven" but the reason because they are there. If it is connected to the "Great Darkness Saga" mayhaps Garth goes into the past to confront Darkseid's last known point of presence in the past to stop him from kidnapping his son in the future. Only he doesn't come back and the Legion sends a team to go fetch one of the founders and my favorite Legionnaire. All this plus the Ultra Humanite makes this the best storyline this side of the Sinestro Corps!!! Only one gripe w/ the first installment, No Alan Scott.

I thought that that was a reference to Dawnstar. Starboy also says "the white angel screeming." That could be a reference to Dawnstar's wings. I agree that "The wolf howls" probably means T-wolf. I totally missed the "itsy bitsy" line. (Bad Vi fan, bad.) I hope it's not Yera, though.


I agree. Didn't they say he didn't even use martial arts as Trident? I think it's believable that he didn't remember it all at once.

Loved Batman's reaction to Superman ranking KK as a better fighter than Bats. Now that I think about it, that's a pretty good sign that the Legion is going to be treated with respect in this story. Some writers would just love to make Batman better than him.

A few thoughts to add:

- Val called Batman a "cheater". Yup, I'm looking forward to him paying Bruce back before the arc is over.

- Who else but Saturn Girl could be responsible for the "telepathic failsafes" that made Karate Kid believe he was Wes Holloway and rendered Wonder Woman's truth lasso useless? (Wes Hollway, btw, of a major character in Brad Meltzer's 'Book of Fate.)

- I'm inclined to agree that Lightning Lad is *not* one of the Seven Soldiers (or his comrades would all be collapsing at the sound of his name) but rather the reason they're there in the 21st century in the first place. Either he's the target they Legionnaires are meant to acquire or -- and this seems much more likely to me -- the one who planted them in the past.

- I suspect the two guys in transuits in 1948 are the loveable time-travelling fiends Cosmic King and Mekt attempting to recruit soldiers of their own. If so, the lightning brothers might be engaged a chess game a bit more complex than the one Mr. T, Dinah and Hal were playing.

I like that idea.

If Cosmic King and Mekt are involved, could it have been Saturn Queen that messed with their minds?

I was referring to when KK wakes up the first time in the cave before fighting Batman. Electricity flashes across his eyes as he wakes up. Also, is it a coincidence he wakes up when Batman mentions his name? When Star Boy is named, other stuff started coming back to him and of course even more when Lightning lad was mentioned in interlac.

Well I made this for my blog... but It is taking forever to write as I am reviewing 12 books this week and they are all pretty thought provoking. So I thought I would post it here. This is my best guess for the magnificent seven.

Oh and I slapped a poll on my site if you are interested in having your opinion counted... I can only have 1 option for now... so pick the one you think will be on the list that is missing from mine.

Vote and be counted!

"We're not the Teen Titans" "We're the Justice League of the 31st century".

Thank you Mr. Meltzer. Thank you very much. This issue rocked. Maybe my favorite JLA ever.

Other thoughts? Powergirl and Vauban? You know I don't know where but I remember her being smarter than we think.

Batman vs. Karate Kid? I think it was clear that if KK was himself he could've taken Bats.

Red Tornado losing his temper? Love the attention Meltzer is giving Roy! (I actually talked on the phone with a Roy Harper on the phone yesterday at work). I would love to see Tempest join and get the same attention. He's much more interesting that Aquabore.

I wonder who the seven legionnaires are? This has to be tied to Darkseid's curse.

I thought the chess scene and the Vauban scene were among the lamest things in the book. Even granted that PG can afford the book... she's in to antique book collecting? Admittedly, I don't know recent portrayals of the character incredibly well, but that just doesn't seem to fit. I could maybe see her reading Vauban, but you don't buy books like that to read.

I thought much like pre-crisis Supergirl...Powergirl had been shown in the past that she's a brain. I want to say when Dr. Mid-Nite scanned her once over in the JSA? Also in JLEurope? Anybody remember? People just remember her for her two assets poor thing.

She's a successful businesswoman, so I'd assume she's pretty bright. And, given that background, I'd be pretty surprised if she hadn't read Sun Tzu, so reading someone like Vauban would seem like a natural extension, especially with her being a super-hero and leader of the JSA and such.

But I see her buying the $10 Penguin Classics edition of Vauban or something. Buying first editions of seventeenth century French military strategy books just seems pretentious in a way that doesn't fit her character.

It's totally something Bruce Wayne would do, however.

I guess the powers that be are doing their best to show off PG's other assets. However, it will be interesting to see if they continue with her name dropping priceless volumes she owns.

What the chess game, the contest between Roy's and Kendra's teams, and Vauban all have in common is the idea of *strategy*. (The same could possibly be said for brains/Batman taking down brawn/Val.) How it ties into the Seven Soldiers thing remains to be seen but there's a definite method behind the madness. Starman's lunacy might be accidental but Val was made to forget his identity on purpose.

The thing is that it was done in such a "Today's theme, boys and girls, is strategy. Can you say 'strategy'?" kind of way.

It sort of reminds me of why I don't read the kind of novels that Meltzer writes.

I can't wait for Power Girl to be portrayed like the competent woman she has always been. DC should give her a reduction for crying out loud.

I haven't read the issue yet, but it sounds like the Legionnaires in question were sent from Lightning Lad's (unfortunate) term as Leader. That would put it before GDS.

Also just cause Karate Kid is wearing the high collar it can still be anytime until the time he dies. He may have felt like wearing the collar when he went back in time?

Also at the end of the Karate Kid series wasn't he sent to the wrong future? Kamandi?

I don't see the point of trying to pigeon-hole this story into a continuity that expired more than 20 years ago, or synchronize it with the timeline of the GDS or any other pre-Crisis story. None of these events ever happened in the old universe -- they're happening right now in the immediate present in the new post-Infinite Crisis universe/multiverse. Like Superman himself, this Legion (what little we've seen of it) may look like a duck and quack like a duck but it's not really the same old duck we knew in years gone by, the wearing of vintage costumes notwithstanding.

In fact, it could be that this Legion's Great Darkness Saga has yet to happen -- but will happen soon.

on a deeper level, the chess game was about two parties being manipulated by a third. Vauban's specialty was fortifications. and the take the flag represents the valuable prize.

so this story will will involve team manipulation to enter a forbidden fortress and recover a valuable item.