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Re: Preview LEGION #11
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Originally posted by jdpinball: And does anyone else think its time for DD to come back on the team full time?
Me! Although I'd rather that Chuck remains in charge of the Academy.

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Bring back Lu to full-time membership!!!

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Yes, bring back Lu..
Kill the telepath and bring back Imra too.
And donĀ“t forget Jeckie.
I hope the new writers make good things about the beloved characters and put all the new losers in the Limbo.


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Re the forcefield belt, I'd also prefer if it were irreplaceable because of the uniqueness of a component, but NOT because Brainy isn't smart enough to recreate it.

Quite a good issue, with enough action and everyone on the team doing something. Even Cos and Mon were written well (and loved Cos' reaction and body language after Mon told him off!)

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The notion that the force field belt is 'unique' because it's actually built out of part of the original Brainiac, and could someday turn out to be the key to his return as a 31st century villain springs to mind, but Paul has already dipped into the '20th century villain as a 30th century threat' well with Darkseid (and others did so with Ras al-Ghul, less successfully, IMO), so hopefully that's just a whacky notion of mine, and not his...


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Brainiac would probably be one 21st century villain who would legitimately work really well in the 31st century; not just because of the obvious link to our Brainy (and Superboy and Supergirl), but also because with his history of grabbing cities from other worlds it wouldn't be at all difficult to insert him into some of the other Legionnaire homeworld's histories....

I think we need to give the 21st century tie-ins a rest for a little while though....I actually quite liked Ra's (though the terrorforms kinda fell flat for the most part IMO), but DnA's turn at Darkseid was pretty underwhelming, we've just had a lousy Superboy-Prime story and with the Legion Lost crew already in the 21st century I think that's quite enough interaction with the DCU of a thousand years prior...

re: Brainy's forcefield belt, I too would prefer that it's irreplaceable because of components within it, or that it can't be duplicated because you'd need to be as smart as Brainy to work it (I did like that story where Dreamy gets frustrated with Ayla not knowing how to use it and takes it off her).

It's kind of weird that Levitz has made Brainy solely responsible for the flight rings and Mon-El's lead serum (which detracts from other Legionnaires being smart), but the one thing that really is his greatest invention (that didn't try to kill everyone) is no longer actually his achievement...

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[QB] Brainiac would probably be one 21st century villain who would legitimately work really well in the 31st century;
Oh, that's true. And, really, probably even more true for Brainiac, than for Darkseid (who is not tied into the Legion, and tends to bring his own mythological baggage into the story, with Apokalips / New Genesis, etc.).

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I think we need to give the 21st century tie-ins a rest for a little while though...
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It's kind of weird that Levitz has made Brainy solely responsible for the flight rings and Mon-El's lead serum (which detracts from other Legionnaires being smart), but the one thing that really is his greatest invention (that didn't try to kill everyone) is no longer actually his achievement...
I had the same thought. The one thing (apart from Computo...) that Brainy can legitimately claim, his force field belt, without poaching or diminishing other Legionnaire's past brilliant achievements, and it's been taken from him and made into something he apparently doesn't even understand.

Given that I know bupkiss about L.E.G.I.O.N., I'm particularly not thrilled that some character from a book that made Phantom Girl into a Carggite and retrofitted R.J. Brande into a thousand year old character and may have more recently established Validus as part of an entire race of critters, and has been just as quickly removed from continuity in the New DCU, may now be the inventor of the force field belt.

It was this sort of thing that led to Laurel Kent being put on the bus, being tied to a past continuity that was in flux. Brainy's belt being retconned to be the invention of a character that may no longer exist gives me that queasy 'here we go again' feeling.


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We've already kind of had Brainiac in the 21st century with Pulsar Stargrave, at least in one version of the character's background.

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That was Dox, IIRC, too, as well as his father.
And the Mallor Darkstar.
They've also had the Emerald Eye.
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And I'm sure that Lyrl and Dox still exist, DC just hasn't presented them yet.
They're great characters, with fascinating stories and connections to the eras of the DCU.
In my opinion, anyway.

Do you remember when Brainy gave his belt to Lu?
He wanted her to keep it so that her last self, or so he thought at the time, would be safer.
So, it can't be that hard to work.

She returned it, but not because she couldn't get it to work.
She just didn't like being in the middle of the possibilities it created, IIRC.


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After rereading this a couple of times, it seems pretty obvious that Comet Queen is being controlled mentally.

First, on page 7, panels 1 and 2, the Dominator seems to be messing with Brainy somehow. When I first read this issue, I thought it was a misprint when Brainy says '....an un-natural effect" because it seems to be a continuation of the Dominator's sentence.

Second, on the following page, panels 3-5, Otaki seems to be affected by probing this same dominators mind, with Mwindaji warning her not to get lost in its mind.

Third, later when Otaki confronts this same dominator, she collapses and he states "Out wills are stronger than your..."

Then, on the following page, the Dominator and Brainiac struggle, and it seems to be as much a mental battle as a physical one with Brainy prevailing until Comet Queen takes Brainy out. Notice CQ says this is a present from someone "who really, really didn't like you." It seems she may not be referring to herself. As Nura slaps her, CQ says only "told me."

Based on all this, I would say this Dominator has some kind of mental powers, and someone who is still suffering from a mindwipe could be easily manipulated. In spite of all her flightiness, CQ is the ultimate fangirl and very heroic. It is completely out of character for her to betray any Legionnaire.

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Originally posted by EmeraldEmperor:
After rereading this a couple of times, it seems pretty obvious that Comet Queen is being controlled mentally.

First, on page 7, panels 1 and 2, the Dominator seems to be messing with Brainy somehow. When I first read this issue, I thought it was a misprint when Brainy says '....an un-natural effect" because it seems to be a continuation of the Dominator's sentence.

Second, on the following page, panels 3-5, Otaki seems to be affected by probing this same dominators mind, with Mwindaji warning her not to get lost in its mind.

Third, later when Otaki confronts this same dominator, she collapses and he states "Out wills are stronger than your..."

Then, on the following page, the Dominator and Brainiac struggle, and it seems to be as much a mental battle as a physical one with Brainy prevailing until Comet Queen takes Brainy out. Notice CQ says this is a present from someone "who really, really didn't like you." It seems she may not be referring to herself. As Nura slaps her, CQ says only "told me."

Based on all this, I would say this Dominator has some kind of mental powers, and someone who is still suffering from a mindwipe could be easily manipulated. In spite of all her flightiness, CQ is the ultimate fangirl and very heroic. It is completely out of character for her to betray any Legionnaire.
Very nice analysis.

There are others there with mind powers, besides the Dominators, which maybe really opens up the betrayal?

I liked this issue.

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