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(snip) Originally posted by Candle: Sorry to upset you.
Bats has already done a Legion story, during the Lightning Saga, I think. More exasperated than upset, really. Batman is essentially what TV Tropes calls a Canon Sue , all over the DC-verse. And I've never had any real love for the "Dark Knight" phase, personally. Even with characters I do like, there's such a thing as overexposure. I'd make an exception for this kind of story if the Bat-character was totally out of his element in the future, had no idea what the hell he was doing, and actually had to rely on other people to take some initiative on his behalf. IOW, the opposite of what we usually see when Batman shows up to suck the air out of every team by being Always Right/The Axis Around Which Everything Else Must Revolve.
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Originally posted by Set:
Instead of *every* Kryptonian / Daxamite gaining planet-shaking power under a yellow sun, I'd rather it be that the long spaceship journey undertaken by both Kal and Lar exposed them to something special, that allowed them to convert solar energy into vast power. Perhaps the process required falling through a spatial distortion, or into a black hole, or a journey that went horribly wrong and took *millenia*, so that it can't be easily replicated to pump out hundreds of super-people, super-dogs, super-cats, super-monkeys, etc. agreed. I much prefer the idea that there *were* such races, but no longer are. Originally posted by Cobalt Kid:
PS - I think Blockade Boy is right about Krypto. If Superboy or the Legion OR COMICS IN GENERAL are to survive, there needs to be things for the younger kids too. Especially in the Superman-related titles above all others. So Krypto is either a welcome bit of nostalgia or a necessary evil depending on the viewpoint. Maybe. But I'm not sold on that reading-age kids necessarily want to see super-powered pets, except maybe in a funny-animal-verse of their own. There is a lot of stuff aimed at kids that kids don't necessarily latch onto. Kids of today have far more entertainment options than we did at their age, and by nature its going to be a certain breed that will latch onto comics for more than 15 minutes. I commend the idea of reaching out to kids, but (1) every time DC or Marvel have done so, it generally falls rather flat (even with a reasonably successful TV/film tie-in to sponge off of), (2) there is no need to dumb down general-audience comics in hopes that it will cause kids to latch onto it, and (3) adults who want to reach kids may have good intentions but don't know how to follow through - bigger corporations than any comics company have people paid to study trends and tastes and I can't see either Marvel or DC making that kind of effort/investment.
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I don't consider superpets as a dumbing down.
There are many hero animals in history and in this day and age.
Many gave their lives for the people and other animals that they loved.
As for animals with 'powers', they're everywhere in literature and movies.
The Avatar had 2 companion animals with him and there were many more superpowered and supernatural animals in his story.
Given the popuiarity of penguins the last few years, I'm suprised Kal hasn't picked up a super Kryptonian one for Lois, yet.
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I guess for me there's too much baggage from the Silver Age and beyond, re: super-pets.
The Krypto back-up in early 80s Superboy stands out in memory: the dog thought like a person and even had a secret identity.
The well's still too polluted for me... but I did approve of Morrison's handling of Krypto in All-Star.
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Fabulous and Sparkly!
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Originally posted by Candle:
Given the popuiarity of penguins the last few years, I'm suprised Kal hasn't picked up a super Kryptonian one for Lois, yet. Sounds good to me! 
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But do we want one with happy feet or one who's a ninja and comes with a crazy lemur king? 
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Originally posted by Candle: I DO agree about the cape, it's silly.
But I know LOTS of people who put clothes on their dogs.
Maybe, Krypto should have a red bandana with an S on it, rather than a cape.
 On that note I give you... A costumed Dog Edit: different site same pic better comments.
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Oh dear God, that poor dog.
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Beauty's where you find it. Not just where you bump and grind it.
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Look at the Legion pages, and play "Where's the Tattoo"?
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What tatoo? 
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It went away with Garth's shave.
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The artist's rendering of Garth's costume is REALLY unflattering. The white mid-section makes him look like he's wearing a giant diaper. I know these guys are old and all now, but do they have to wear super-depends on the OUTSIDE of their costumes? Seriously, the artist should just change the costume.
Part of it is, too, that his Lightning Lad is a really ... beefy guy. I think it's good to have the Legionnaires present different body types, although I guess I always thought of Cosmic Boy as the shorter, beefy, chunky, magnetic lodestone guy and Lightning Lad as light and skinny, like lightning. But whatever. The diversity of sizes is welcome regardless.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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Long live the Legion!
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Originally posted by doublechinner:
Part of it is, too, that his Lightning Lad is a really ... beefy guy. I think it's good to have the Legionnaires present different body types, although I guess I always thought of Cosmic Boy as the shorter, beefy, chunky, magnetic lodestone guy and Lightning Lad as light and skinny, like lightning. Heh, with all the artistic changes, I tended to think of them the opposite. Former Magno-ball champion Cos as a thin tennis-player build guy and former farm-boy LL as a taller guy with broader shoulders! When all of the male characters have the same generic 'Captain America' build, I guess we just invent our own distinctions to place over them! Totally agree on the giant diaper thing 'though. That costume is hideous. Garth has almost always had much better costumes than that.
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Originally posted by doublechinner:
The artist's rendering of Garth's costume is REALLY unflattering. <span style="font-size: 18px;"> The white mid-section makes him look like he's wearing a giant diaper. I know these guys are old and all now, but do they have to wear super-depends on the OUTSIDE of their costumes? </span>
Seriously, the artist should just change the costume. Boy, is THAT an accurate discription!
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