Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes ADVENTURE COMICS #1 (#504) SPOILERS!

It was Johns who said that Garth isn't Proty (since Garth as Proty didn't happen, it's difficult to include in a story)

Clark first wore the costume in Action Comics 863 in flashback at the end of the Superman/Legion arc. [/b]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When did Johns state that? I know it's obvious, but still...

It was Johns who said that Garth isn't Proty (since Garth as Proty didn't happen, it's difficult to include in a story)

Clark first wore the costume in Action Comics 863 in flashback at the end of the Superman/Legion arc. [/b]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When did Johns state that? I know it's obvious, but still... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Obvious because he's a hothead and Proty wasn't?

... and anally, isn't it Proty as Garth? Hmmm?

It was Johns who said that Garth isn't Proty (since Garth as Proty didn't happen, it's difficult to include in a story)

Clark first wore the costume in Action Comics 863 in flashback at the end of the Superman/Legion arc. [/b]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When did Johns state that? I know it's obvious, but still... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Obvious because he's a hothead and Proty wasn't?

... and anally, isn't it Proty as Garth? Hmmm? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, Garth/Proty had a lot more problems than not being hotheaded ~ is not being hotheaded a problem?

This is the Legion the grew from the Silver Age, right?
Then, Garth died and was resurrected somehow.
Maybe it was Reflecto or someone else, and it's still not Garth that we're seeing.
gads

I think Imra and Garth should get a divorce anyway.
I don't like this Garth and he's obviously ubber jealous of Rokk, who's seems not to be with Lydda anymore.
He was standing alone with Imra looking at him mornfully in one panel.

Well, in other panels, you see Garth and Imra holding one another.

I was trying to determine how people knew this was "Just Garth" as opposed to "Garth-Proty."

I thought maybe they were saying that G-P wasn't hot-headed and the Johnsboot version is, hence Johnsboot Garth isn't a proty-garth, he's just a garth-garth.

Someone said Johns said somewhere that it wasn't Proty-Garth.
Proty-Garth, before we knew that it was Proty's spirit inside, had some major mental breakdowns, if I remember correctly.

This Garth is really quite different but all of the Legionnaires have much more personality since the reboot time, even these who are based on the originals.

Got it and read it last night!

What a pleasant surprise it was.

Though I collected Clone-El's last series, it was definitely an up-and-down book that never stood out as one of my favorites. His run in ADVENTURE might change that.

I *love* that they have an option for the series numbering. Traditionalists have their Adventure # 504 and today's fans of all-new and all-now have a new # 1.

Loving the Smallville setting.

Francis' art seems to have taken on a stripped-down simple approach that my eye finds appealing. The muted coloring was lovely.

The last panel I found to be quite creepy (in a good way). Clone-El has daddy issues deluxe, doesn't he?

A very nice if not breathtaking start.

And now for THE LEGION!

While I am having a difficult time trying to accept that DC considers the LSH's current popularity to be at about the level of the latest Blue Beetle and Ravager, I didn't let that stop me from enjoying the backup tale.

The blurry character bios-blocks and mixup with Lydda and Shady was pretty unforgivable though!!

This was over much too soon but I liked the look at things to come.

All in all, a good start. Hope the sales are there.

My comic's guy, good guy that he is, made sure to have the 504 in my bin but I just couldn't not have that Manapul cover on 1 so I shocked him when I switched.
This:
Christina\'s World


I've never had a commision done, but I could really imagine hanging on my wall, a Manapul "cover" of Wyeth's Christina's World, with Imra or Ayla instead.

got it. enjoyed it.

I've actually been looking forward to the Legion as a back-up series, to allow character time rather than big universe-shaking epics that fall flat. I was mostly worried about the lead... Kon-El was never my fave, but this take is good so far. I like Manipul's art here better than on v5, and like the links between lead and backup.

I'm glad the Thom story seems to be going somewhere; it was the one thing I was most disappointed with in JSA. The hints-to-come bit looks good; it looks like good follow-through from L3W.

Now we just need code-names bumped up to adult names, since these are Clark's peers, not Kon's.

Wyeth is a favorite and I can connect him to the Adventure look.

And I love that you want to the code names, Kent ~ be prepared for an intellectual battle, though.

More of an emotional one has been my take on that battle, lol.

Random thoughts:

I hope that limiting Johns to eight pages will force him to tell stories with a little more meat to them. I'm not sure he juggles large groups very well. Now I know he had success on JSA, but even that felt as though characters were often ignored and stories dragged for far too long.

I never imagined that the launching of a new Legion feature would start with Starboy(Man) and Tellus. I love Tellus and hope he won't quickly be forgotten.

I usually enjoy Johns's "sneak preview" page, but this time it felt like wasted space. I want more story!


I cannot wait until the Legion bumps Superboy out of another title.

I think that might be the plan down the road...

Well I enjoyed it... But then, you all know how I feel about Star Boy, ESPECIALLY the Danny Blaine incarnation...

I have no idea who Danny Blaine is.

Danny Blaine is the name Thom uses in the Twentienth Century

Oh!
Well, I'm always missing something!
Thanks for the info.


BB ~ yes, lol.

It was intro'd in the Robinson Starman series (1994-2002ish, when Jack Knight met Thom Kallor (the Reboot version) two times. The first time (#50), young Thom was shocked to learn that he would someday live in the past as Danny Blaine and meet his preordained fate. They met again in one of the final issues, an older Thom who knew the following day would be his last.

Current Starman/Neoclassic Thom has used the Danny Blaine name a couple times in JSA, and he is clearly a different timeline-variant of the one Jack met.

"different"

Missed opportunity

I've never been a fan of Superboy. Any version. Ever. I preferred the Legion without him.

But I love Krypto. The dog rocks. So I enjoyed this issue, and I'll stick around for at least a few more.

Anyone else connect the red jewel that Luthor has on the cover to the red glowing pendant Simon Valentine wears? Possible Anagram--Mon-El is Native-- a possible Lar Gand/Luthor hybrid clone?Hmm...

Finally got this issue, but I'd seen so many previews that it felt like I'd already read it. It did feel pretty much like a set up, but that's okay. Yay Krypto! I'm so glad Krypto doesn't talk anymore, just acts like a dog. Nice feel to the Smallville scenes, but you know that calm can't last. Don't know about this Simon Valentine character....

Thom Kallor, so sad. It just strikes me as ominous; he's entrusted with this big mission and sometimes he's aware of what's going on, but usually it's all muddled in his head.

I actually prefer this sort of treatment of the Legionnaires in 20th/21st century story. Usually they arrive as a group, do their thing and pop back to the future. Here they're all scattered, trying to put together the pieces of whatever mission(s) they had - a test of their abilities, and a bit of a puzzle for the reader to figure out.

Yes, if you're willing to pay 10 bucks an issue for the Adventure numbering.

My CBS didn't do that. Both issues were the same price. I wouldn't have paid extra.

Garth only became really proty in the 5 year gap stories post-LSH 5. We can say that in the revised timeline in the Glorith universe that Garth was really proty based in a large part of the membership of Kid Quantum (because KQ had all the sentience of the Proteans, except for 5 of them plus Kid Q and Proty 1) it makes sense for Garth to have been Proty then since it was a clear revelation happening...and also it was more organic story telling than pre-Gloirth universe...and besides...the idea really started as fan talk...kinda like Jan being gay and Mon-EL really being Eltro Gand. All of which became cannon during the 5year gap, not before.