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YK, good theory about Earth-Man getting locked into using Ultra Boy's powers in space. I suppose Geoff could definitely swing it that way, with a couple of outs. For example: if Blok is invulnerable (how many rocks out there need to breathe?), or if that Earth ring Earth-Man wears is ultimately revealed to be like a Legion flight ring, complete with trans-suit capabilities. But I like your idea that Clark can beat the all powerful bad guy with a flight ring and no powers.

In retrospect, I wonder why Geoff didn't have the team call in the Heroes of Lallor, so Duplicate Boy could wipe up the floor with the former Absorbancy Boy (that name still gets me...why not use "Paper Towel Boy". Hey, he could team up with Bounty With his powers, he should have called himself "Residual Lad"). In the end, I liked seeing the Subs swooping in to help save the day (good "rejects" versus bad "rejects" and the parallel Geoff used about Clark himself often felt rejected until he met the Legion). Feel good kinda stuff!

And Scott, I couldn't agree with you more about the eyes Gary draws, particularly on a couple of those Saturn Girl images. As others have said before, some of the ladies look like "crack whores". If nothing else, it makes me think of a Stepford Wife. The art (and eyes) have definitely gotten better as the arc gets further along, but our boy Garth would never have pursued Imra if she looked like that!!! I'm not saying he's shallow and looks mean everything, but that image just screams "psychotic chick"!!!

I think the Justice League does have flight rings or the equivalent. They were shown flying in their first appearance in the Batcave weren't they?

I think the art is great. Yes, he tends to draw the eyes a little too large, but that's a small price to pay for the overall great art imho.

Ethel is indeed creepy, but also pretty useless to the League in a fight. Why the Subs took her down first is a mystery to me. What was she going to do? Give them a dirty look?

What if she had a tactical role in League fights. With all of her eyes, she could direct the others effectively since she could know where all of the opponents are. Taking her out first could be a means of cutting off the League's "eyes" (not that we really saw her take such a role). Also, did they take her out first? I thought Stone Boy took out Radiation Roy when the bus hit.

Since they hit Roy with a bus, they may want to start calling him "Radiator Roy" now. Boy meets grill...

Dang, but I crack myself up sometimes!

Presumably Absorbancy Boy was using an invulnerablility power (actually he was - see when Superman hit him) Superman, would just need momentum to use Absorbancy Boy to break through the window of the station, just like the Subs used momentum to crash into the station.

lol, good one.

Yeah. Blok too but still no flight power unless the JLEarth rings are tech marvels like the Legion flight rings. I knew the idea was shaky but it seems to fit the theme of this story. Real "feel good" stuff, the kind of thing I used to read as a kid.

I think the six-part Legion story in Action is one of the Top 3 Legion adventures of all time. Geoff Johns knows exactly how to make the Legion characters come to life, and has done an especially good job with the Subs and Rejects. The artwork is top notch, and the "eye issues" that have been mentioned actually accentuate the drama in the story for me (the youthful optimism of the young Legion, the desperation in the older Legionnaires, the craziness of Brainy and the Rejects). I am actually REALLY looking forward to a Legion issue for the first time since I was a kid (which is a long time). I would love to have this creative team do as many Legion stories as possible.

At the end of part 5 I got the impression that:
a) Supes may have been getting his power back when he sent Earth Man out into space. Had Brainy successfully de-connected Sun Boy off panel?
b) Earth Man could then absorb Superman's powers and survive there easily (as Superman would have known). He only had the other Legionnaires comatose so he could easily recharge in 12 hour intervals. With Superman right there, he could have absorbed his regained kryptonian power on the spot. Hence, a super-duke out in chapter six.

I see it differently... I think Earth Man will lose all his powers and just simply become normal again while out in space. While the sun is still red, Supes will beat EM, finally showing EM why he was chosen over him.

Well, something like that.

Didn't Earth Man say he didn't need the Legion anymore last issue? I thought this meant the power absorption was permanent. In any event, he could use Ultra Boy's invulnerability in space and some of the other Legionnaires' powers to fight Superman at the same time.

YK's scenario is so exciting to me, so Supermanish.

Totally powerless with only the willpower to drive the flight ring and the flight ring to protect him from space and Earth-Man's invulnerability to break through the station wall.

That's cool

Is it large eyes or lack of eyelids?

I second!

All in favor say "Aye!"

I hope sales supports this Legion push. I'd love a decade of LSH heavy exposure and merchandising.

Neither. It's the fact that you can always see the whole iris. Look at how anyone else draws eyes: typically you can see the lower two-thirds of the iris. With Frank you always get the whole thing, and that's just not how people look.

Maybe they're all suffering from a 30th century version of Graves Disease, or are all descended from Marty Feldman. I agree that the pop-eye effect is disconcerting. And Polar Boy looks totally mad. However, I like the story so much that I'm willing to forgive the "eyes". But you're right, Matthew, about how eyes should be drawn to be realistic.

I had a thought, maybe Gary looks into a mirror to draw eyes, and doesn't realize how intently he is staring back at himself to get the eyes "just right". And there you go...

Other than the eyes, everything artwise is fantastic, so I'm still loving this book! It's a great time to be a Legion fan!

Say what you will about Quitely's eyes, his rendition of Duo Damsel/Triplicate Girl on page 1 in her tight, short little dress makes me want to see this uniform again for the first time *ever*.

Superman is made more likeable when he appears with the LSH. He just is. His respect for the SUBS, his concern for Sun Boy- endearing.

Eyeful Ethel- creepy. But I still wonder why she's blonde?

I thought Stone Boy had learned some sort of hypnotic trick to retain mobility. Different version, I suppose.

Rainbow Girl and Fire Lad were impressive, one for the first time, literally-- the other illustrating the fact that imperfect control of a great power still means you have a great power.

I was disappointed in Chlorophyll Kid's depiction. His 'psychosis' was funny- I'd probably enjoy it if I'd never read the character before. I suppose I should just regard him as a new version of the old Chlor and enjoy him on his own.

Still, when everyone else is written more or less 'straight', I wonder why he's singled out as the loony?

Plant-powered characters just get no respect in comics.

It'd be nice to see Color Kid and Infectious Lass renunited with the subs at the tale's end. Will Double Header get a statue?

I wonder if Sun Boy's power will be burned out by this prolonged torture? Or will he be more powerful? Less control?

Rainbow Girl and her emotional spectrum powers are interesting. Will there be more powers beside the super-strength ones? She's blasting something green on the next-to-last page. This was first mentioned in a Who's Who entry, wasn't it? I wonder if Geoff Johns got his idea for the GL emotion-based rings of different colors from reading this entry...

I think Chlorophyll's kid psychosis and loony act were more Frank's eyes than anything.

Just kidding. Franks' best issue IMO!

LOL, that used to be me (maybe still is). Whenever I did self-portraits in art class everyone thought I must have been really angry when I did it because of my eyes. However, it was usually because I was focusing so intently on my eyes that they would look really intense (thus pissed). I still have a real hard time drawing my eyes more relaxed. Sorry, but when I read that it just back a lot of memories of art critiques and friends wanting to know why I was so mad.

So here's my take on the eye thing. One, Frank has improved greatly, the eyes haven't taken me out of the story in about two issues. My biggest problem was that Frank brings such reality to the pages and expression to the characters that when you (or at least me) see a character who is all bugged eye think "psychotic" (see above pic of Imra) so you start looking at the story to see the pyschotic vibe play out. Then you realize that she isn't supposed to look crazy and you've just been knocked out of the story.

That's how reading the first few issues were for me, his Superman was just so well done, as were most of his guy Legionnaires that you really pay attention to their face and body language (or at least I did). So when it came to a woman and all of a sudden her eyes don't match the rest of the art/story, it really took me out of the book. It was a shame that an artist could pull me in so deeply that the smallest flaw could throw me out, but that is what happened. Everything he drew was so convincing that when he screwed up his eyes it was VERY VERY jarring. A lot of artist it wouldn't be a big deal because their art does not pull me in as much as his does.

That said, again, he has improved every issue and the last two issues have been superb. Really, I think next issue will rock and Gary Frank is going to become a classic Superman artist and his art on this arc has been great, except for the little thing with the eyes.

I think if Wally Wood drew it a different part of Saturn Girl's anatomy would be enlarged.

A Wally Wood drawn LSH story would have had the coolest space ship interiors of any LSH story.

Tangent question: Did Wally Wood ever draw any Legion issues? I know he did some JSA during the 70's.

with the Lightning Saga/Action Legion coming back (hopefully permanently) where does that leave the Superman/Batman adult Legion and the Saturn Queen etc featured in that arc and Supergirl #7?

Are these from Earth xx or gone for good?

There's a Geoff Jones interview over on Newsarama that mentions Rainbow Girl - sorry, I'm not sure how to create links - and he also says that there are only two GLs left by the 31st century, our man Rond Vidar being one.

I've posted a link in the Green Lantern thread at Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities.

I am fairly certain he did not do so - at least not get credit for such work.