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Re: Lightning Saga Legion in Action!
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Wait, though: does the tablet contain information about Superman's secret identity? Because if it does, that limits who could have created it.

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I don't think we have had the actual contents spelt out, have we?


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Yes, it named him as Clark Kent, son of Jonathan and Martha Kent of Smallville, Kansas, yadda, yadda, yadda. Ethel's students were reciting it.

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Hmm. I was disappointed in the Subs' portrayal. I thought from the cover they were going to be the hardened and competent subversives that they were in the TMK era. Everybody else has grown up and matured, why are the Subs still so inept?

Also don't get how Night Girl could be accepted in the regular Legion, given her limitation. There are already half a dozen super strong Legionnaires on the team. So who needs a chick who can only be strong at night?

It's always seemed odd to me that Night Girl's codename is about her limitation rather than her power. Rather than calling herself Power Lass or Strong Girl or something, she's rather advertising her weakness. It would be like Ultra Boy calling himself One Power at a Time Lad, or Superboy being Super Only in Yellow Sunlight Boy. But I digress . . .

I'm anxious to get all those other Legionnaires out of their cookie jars and see them in action. Though 20 some odd Legionnaires against 6 rejects seems unfair. . .


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Hmm. I was disappointed in the Subs' portrayal. I thought from the cover they were going to be the hardened and competent subversives that they were in the TMK era. Everybody else has grown up and matured, why are the Subs still so inept?

I also didn't like the subs being shown as inept. I think it was done for comic effect. But we didn't need comic effect.


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[b] Hmm. I was disappointed in the Subs' portrayal. I thought from the cover they were going to be the hardened and competent subversives that they were in the TMK era. Everybody else has grown up and matured, why are the Subs still so inept?

I also didn't like the subs being shown as inept. I think it was done for comic effect. But we didn't need comic effect.[/b]
I liked that they were. Personally I think Geoff showed them to be both slightly inept and slightly not. The evil Justice League has beat down most of the Legion. I wouldn't have liked it if they were all gung-ho top notch butt kickers. It would've been a bit too v4 as well.

Polar Boy was there to keep them in control. He was their leader. They just needed direction. smile They are not that experienced. And Rainbow Girl kicked butt!

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I don't think they were inept. I think it's just that the nature of their powers and the resulting status and resources they have available has forced a different style on them. The Legion may aspire to treat superheroism as an exact science; the Subs never will.

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I also didn't really get what Rainbow Girl's powers are. . .

And if she's so powerful and competent why is she hanging with the Subs? She's the only one who didn't come off looking buffoonish. It seems more likely that she would be accepted into the Legion than Night Girl.


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I don't really get what her powers are either. But it's implied that they come with mood swings, which might have been enough to get the Legion to pass on her.

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Has there ever been a creepier super-villain than Eyeful Ethel? Those popping eyes... yuck!


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Radiation Roy is creepier right now.

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I don't really get what her powers are either. But it's implied that they come with mood swings, which might have been enough to get the Legion to pass on her.
It says that she draws her power form the emotional spectrum that causes mood swings. You didn't find it funny that when she mentioned that the subs and her had plenty of will power she glowed green? When she was angry she was in red? Jorge mentioned it in the early post that Johns worked in some Green Lantern stuff into her. That is cool.

And I liked how the Subs wee portrayed. The Subs have the courage, the heart and decency but still just a bit naive. They still need time to develop that all.

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Yeah, that's where she gets her power... but then what can she do with it? It's not clear.

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Franks has created the creepiest of all DC villains, I of course speak of Eyeful Ethyl. The eyes on the boobs has affected me deeply.

Yes, more of this.

I generally like my Superheroes with sticks up theirs, but the subs provide me a more from the neighborhood superhero.

Last panel: Supes would have required super strength to bust through a space station wall, flight ring or no flight ring. Right?

Of the two issues this month, I couldn't pick a clear favorite. Most fun I've had in a long time reading a Legion book.

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Eyeful Ethyl. The one woman who can't say "Hey, my eyes are up here!!!!"

Creepy as all hell.


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Does anyone have a list of the issues where these Justice League or Legion of Super Reject members first appeared?

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I just love this Legion. I was trying to figure out why and decided that it's because it is, for the most part, linear story-telling. We're not skipping back and forth in time (although there's a bit of that) and there are not innumerable sub-plots going on. Furthermore, it focuses mainly on the heroes and the villains. There is precious little time given to obscure bureaucrats and politicians who seem to take up an inordinate amount of space in the main LSH title. This is the real Legion for me.

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Does anyone have a list of the issues where these Justice League or Legion of Super Reject members first appeared?
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In order of their appearances:

Storm Boy_______Adventure Comics #301_______Oct 1962
Radiation Roy____Adventure Comics #320_______May 1964
Spider Girl_______Adventure Comics #323_______Aug 1964
Eyeful Ethel______Adventure Comics #330_______Mar 1965
Golden Boy______Adventure Comics #331_______Apr 1965
Tusker__________Adventure Comics #331_______Apr 1965
Absorbancy Boy__Superboy & the Legion #218___Jul 1976
(now known as Earth-Man)


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Good list Craig! Nice bit of reference reading there.

Just sat down and read the first five issues (guess I could have waited a month for the ending). Good story, not great but good. Definitely not my Legion but another iteration that I could enjoy.

The only drawback for me so far is Frank's art. It is quite good but too often do the characters look psychotic. If I had been young Clark I would have ran the other direction. The Founders looked as if they were auditioning for the next Texas Chainsaw movie. I mean, come on, if I was Garth now way would I have married this:

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Thanks for the list Craig.

I have to agree with LL about the way that Gary Frank draws eyes. Other than that I think his art is pretty good. If or more likely when this pseudo pre-crisis Legion gets it's own book I'd like to see someone else do the art.

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That pic of Saturn Girl almost looks like Wally Wood drew her.


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On the other hand I really enjoyed this issue. I've gotten used to the art and I'm even beginning to like it. It's a pleasure to wander through my childhood Legion stories with a new perspective. Of course the story being told demands that we understand the past in order to understand the present..uh..future..umm...yeah, talking about time travel gives me a headache...anyway it's still been a pretty good read so far.

Ok, the following is spoilerish but really it's just an observation or two and a bit of conjecture.


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Am I wrong in thinking the only Legionnaire being held captive with a power that automatically allows them to survive in deep space is Ultra Boy? Yeah I can imagine a way for it to happen with a couple of those others but they're experienced and highly skilled with those powers, Earth Man isn't.
So he duplicates Jo's invulnerability and survives but without the power of flight and with no flight ring. The hero from Krypton whips the delusional paranoid from Earth and has nothing but a Legion flight ring to work with.
Sweet.

Now watch Brainiac5 make the claim that he planned it that way all along.
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I noticed that Earthman imprisoned those Legionnaires that seem to have the most impressive powers and ignored "lesser" heroes. Not a good idea when dealing with the Legion. We've seen time and again that it's not the amount of power any individual possesses but the amount of heart and teamwork that's applied to a problem. A very Silver Ageish story complete with a moral and most likely a happy ending next issue.

I really starting to look forward to the third part of this crossover arc. Who the heck is in that wand that Brainy is so fond of?

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Geoff Johns just recently posted this on the ComicBloc forums:

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If you've been enjoying the Legion arc...Action Comics 864's title...

An epilogue to the Legion arc, with some pretty big revelations that play into the DCU as a whole, happen in issue #864.

The title of the issue - BATMAN AND THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES.

Joe Prado is illustrating[...]
Now that is interesting.

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Am I wrong in thinking the only Legionnaire being held captive with a power that automatically allows them to survive in deep space is Ultra Boy? Yeah I can imagine a way for it to happen with a couple of those others but they're experienced and highly skilled with those powers, Earth Man isn't.
So he duplicates Jo's invulnerability and survives but [b]without
the power of flight and with no flight ring. The hero from Krypton whips the delusional paranoid from Earth and has nothing but a Legion flight ring to work with.
Sweet.[/b]
Wouldn't Blok be able to survive in space? I always assumed he had some degree of invulnerability, but is that dependent on his physiology? Yet if that somehow affected the ability to absorb them, why would Earth Man have kept him alive?

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Am I wrong in thinking the only Legionnaire being held captive with a power that automatically allows them to survive in deep space is Ultra Boy?
I think Blok was in there, and I'm pretty sure that he's capable of going without air.


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