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hmm. I missed that. have to re-read. never a big double-header fan, tho.

I liked Polar Boy's costume but hated Night Girl's. Her hairdo looks tired and dated too. Shady's is way too skimpy. How's she supposed to hop around fighting bad guys if she's always worried about her boobs popping out of her "costume"? Colossal Boy's is okay, but has too many extraneous details to stand out. Why does Dawnstar wear a headband if it doesn't bind her hair? In fact, how does it stay on at all? Is it a tiara like Wonder Woman's? That doesn't seem to fit the character. I never liked this character, but I do like that the artist is trying to draw her with native American features and not as "generic pretty girl with red skin" as many other aritsts have done.

I'm disappointed with the "Justice League's" costumes overall. They're very gray and colorless except for Radiation Roy's and his armor is somewhat ludicrously reminiscent of Fortress Lad's. They even gave Spider Girl gray hair instead of her trademarked red. And why does Storm Boy keep hiding in the background? He's the most interesting to me, and gets the least screen time. Tusker? Puh-lease. Why dig this goon out of mothballs? If his skeleton is invulnerable how did his tusk get broken? The original Tusker could grow his tusks out at will, so why doesn't he just regrow it? And when is Golden Boy going to turn somebody into gold instead of just hitting them with his metal fists?

I'm pretty happy with the art and story overall though. Can't wait to see where it's going.

Really good points about the JLA of 3008 Jim. The way Storm Boy is portrayed, in both mannerism and appearnace would make me think he was a vampire or goth. He's always skulking around in the shadows and wearing dark clothes. Are they trying to infer some kind of moodiness (dark clouds on the horizon kind of thing)?

And with Spider Girl's hair, maybe she's a bit prematurely grey now, since some time has passed?

I'm really looking forward to the Subs vs the Rejects, since they are basically two sides of the same coin. All were told "No" by the Legion, yet some of them strove to become heroes anyway!

Oh, yeah, re Polar Boy's arm. I like that he can use his power so creatively now, but don't see how he could use it as a functioning limb. For instance, I don't see how he could wiggle his fingers or make a fist as his ice has never been organic or under his mental control before to my knowledge. And why didn't he just wear the flight ring on his real hand?

Actually wasn't he a Substitute Substitute?

The way I figured it, he's projecting a field of cold that's exactly the shape of the missing arm, and changes shape to match how he wants the arm to move. The field of cold constantly gains and sheds ice molecules to do this. As for the flight ring, I think he put it on that arm to be a badass. I haven't done Polar Boy in my 'The Legionnaires' articles on Legion Abstract yet, but it's coming, and this is entirely consistent with his character.

Edited to add: as for Double-Header, yes, I think he was part of the Legion Auxiliary, as per that issue of DC Comics Presents with Ambush Bug.

The ice arm doesn't bug me that much, since I've grown used to Marvel's Iceman doing the same thing. Apparently it's 'flexible ice,' which makes at least as much sense as flexible metal people (like Ferro Lad or Colossus) and flexible rock people (like Blok or, uh, some other person made of rock).

Have a lot of posts been cut from this thread? I'm seeing responses to personal attacks, but no personal attacks...

Until Shooter and Manapul's first issue came out, the Action comic run was my favorite Legion arc since the JLA Lightning Saga thing.

I loved Frank's art back in Midnight Nation and Supreme Power, I'm just not feeling it here. I certainly don't *hate* it, and there have certainly been a few Legion artists whose work on the Legion I've disliked quite a lot.

The story has some 'huh?' moments so far, such as Brainy sending for Superman against the wishes of the other Legionnaires, and then turning out to be the dictator of Colu and the other Legionnaires suddenly say that going there is a bad idea... But it's got a dreamlike quality, and I suspect that's deliberate.

The 'sudden transition' to the Legion underground railroad thing seems very much like a clue to me that things are not as they seem. It *could* be a jarring page layout failure, but I suspect it's a hint that somethings not right. I don't think Kal-El is going to wake up in the shower and it all have been a dream, but I do think that something is going on to change things *during the story.* Brainy was considered by the Legionnaires to be one of them at the beginning, and is now something completely different. I'm telling myself that this isn't sloppy writing, but it's a sign of things having changed, for the worse, between Superman being pulled into the future and the latest issue.

Is 'future history' unravelling?

Is this just some ill-conceived Action arc that happens to include the Legion (or, *a* Legion), or is it something more relevant, a potential launching point for new continuity, or a tying together of older continuities, timed for the anniversary relaunch?

He couldn't put it on his one remaining hand because he has no right hand to put it on the left hand. Try to put on a ring on your left hand with your left hand. It's tough Well, it's possible, but it's tough

Double post.........

Edit: I see Ultra Jorge already posted this.

The colorized Mike Grell variant for Action #861 appeared on Newsarama about 40 minutes ago.



Looks like Polar Boy's right arm has mysteriously came back. It needs to be recolored.

The Giffen variant for Action #862 also appeared.

Awesome Giffen cover! So what is Color Kid a girl now/ I seem to remember something about him having some gender-reversal virus or something once but don't remember when or where.
And Grell too! Awesome!

As to Set's question about this being sloppy writing. I don't think so, I think there's a lot to yet be revealed. I'm really not familiar with the writer (I do know who he is but don't know that I've read his work) but so far, the story seems fairly complex. I am assuming Brainy sent the message-bot to the "present"before he was interred, escaped and became the computer tyrant of colu. I'm not sure how long this run is supposed to last but I'm thinking it's not just a 3-4 issue thing. At leat I hope.

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I believe that is supposed to be Rainbow Girl, who was a Legion reject preboot, but never joined the Subs then. That is a close variation of her costume anyway. You are correct that Color Kid did turn into a woman once (in the Legion of Subs special where Infectious Lass' out of control powers caused it to happen).

And for the record, I like Keith's take on Fire Lad! And the Grell cover looks great too!! Lots of Legiony goodness!

Who's that Dawny's holding? And I wish Giffen was doing the interiors as well...

Storm Boy

From Geoff's Johns interview on CBR

"“When Superman was growing up, he had no friends and finally he got some friends that he could relate too. That’s the coolest thing about the original Legion. But once our Legion arc run is up, it’s not the end of the Legion,” said Johns.

“The entire purpose of this arc is really to introduce the Legion to someone who has never heard of it. And show why they are so important to Superman. That’s why this Legion story works because of their connection to Superman and Superman’s connection to them. There is a really special connection that makes Superman, Superman. He wasn’t Bruce Wayne when he was a kid. Even though he was an outsider, he had friends, friends who were beyond anything that he ever could have imagined. They were just like him. They were aliens, who looked like him, who came to Earth."

So more Legion, eh?

Wow, that alternate cover art looks totally Kirby-esque!

Oh, so that's not the end of the Legion? Gee, maybe DC can start up a regular series for the Legion. Maybe they could bring back Jim Shooter to write it--I wonder what he's doing these days? Or, if they want to be really ambitious, they could give the Legion their own TV show, and put out a comic based on the TV show! Wow, I'm so glad Geoff Johns has finally started writing Legion comics again, after all those years with none at all.

I kid. A little.

Actually, the veiled and vaguely-hinted-at assumption in that article that there have been no Legion comics published since about '86 is not the thing that annoyed me about that interview. The thing that annoyed me? It's 'Brainiac', not 'Braniac'. Because he has brains, not cereal.

Gosh, it's a good thing we had Braniac here! Without his powers of Super-Regularity, we might have been trapped in this Space-Bathroom all night!

And now, try our new Braniac 5! It contains as much fiber as one million bowls of Super Colon Blow!

Those variants are really great. Though... is this really Giffens art? Has he changed his style of drawing YET AGAIN? Where have the winderfully chunky faces gone to?

looks like Al Milgrom is inking the Giffen cover? Very interesting. My recollections of Milgrom are that he always worked in a thick-lined, cartoony style. Not a bad thing, necessarily. Looks like Keith and/or Al is trying to channel his inner Kirby and Cooke.

Funny, when I first saw the unmagnified preview of this cover, I thought it was by Byrne, and I got all indignant: how dare they let Byrne do a Legion nostalgia cover. Funny that it was Giffen actually Giffen.

I imagine the editorials powers might have preferred a more "classic" Legion Giffen cover, but this one really is quite awesome. The use of the bad guys as the foreground framing mixed in with high tech, high-relief detritus is pure Kirby/Cooke goodness.

Is that Giffen cover a homage to another cover from somewhere? Maybe that early v.5 Venado Bay cover or something? I swear it looks totally familiar.

My, someone got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning