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Re: LOST - season 3 BE WARNED!!!
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So I think at least the first few episodes will be Jack getting his shit together and then "Getting the Band Back Together". Obviously, he's got all the resources he needs with a "Golden Ticket" and three very wealthy contacts (Hurley, Sun and Penny [assuming Desmond gets out of there too]). Gives the creators a good platform to selectively bring cast back and jettison those whose stores are finished.

So I imagine Naomi and company are Dharma folks and they move right back into their old digs but with even more security while Richard and the Others resume their roles as Guerrilla/Invisible warriors. The wildcard is Locke. Does he join/lead the Others, or is he a free agent like Rousseau?

Other questions:

Does Alex stay with Rousseau or does she leave with the Losties?

Anyone else get left behind?

Will we get to see what happened to Ben? Did he die in prison?

How did Kate get out of her murder conviction?

If Rose leaves is she sick now?

Who planted the fake wreckage?

Is the Island public knowledge now?

Was it really Walt (and if it's the beast/ghost, does that mean the real Walt's dead? I can't remember any other live person appearing in a vision to people on the Island)?

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Didn't Jack say something about "having to lie"? Presumably about the island?

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My theory on person in casket = Sawyer, cheating death somehow via a con (we never saw a body). He has no one that would be there, and Kate is cold to him for some unknown reason as of yet unrevealed (he also has no other friends/etc.).

I think its too early to say what season four will be like, but I wouldn't be surprised if it opens with them on the island still and showing us how they got off, even if that is the new flashback sequences all season. With real time being them making their way back. But we could be wrong...it might be that the finale we just saw is the new blueprint and we'll see 'real time' being what its been all along, with flash-forwards. I know I'm curious.

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i dont believe the show is going off island, that was why they showed that flashforward so we know that its not a good future, but it seems only a bad future for jack no one else.
As for the person in the casket, there are 2 people on the island that would possibly have no one show up for the funeral, 1.Sawyer, but my guess is Kate would have showed up and she told jack that "he would be wondering where she is", my belief is she was talking about sawyer.
2. Julliet, who would go to her funeral, Jack would.

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Sawyer and Juliet were my first thought about the funeral. However, I think if it was Sawyer Kate would have had a different reaction, and Hurley would probably have shown up. If it was Juliet that'd certainly explain why Jack was so upset, but where is her sister? The most common theories seem to be that it's Locke or Ben.

As for Kate being out of jail, Hurley might of used his money to get her out, or she could have a new identity. It's been suggested that "he" is someone she's using to keep her out.

I don't think they can go off island, at least not for long. When this show started there were a lot of comments on the island being a character in itself, so I think plot will have to continue to revolve around it.


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#586806 05/24/07 09:35 PM
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Someone got a screencap of the newspaper clipping.

Definitely a man, the first name starts with Jo, I think. Looks like you called it Eryk. smile

EDIT: Hmm, it says ...antham of New York. Wonder what that means.


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The coffin seems to be freakishly small, for what's it worth. I didn't notice the first time around, but re-watching it today it looks like it's got to be someone fairly short.

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Yeah, I noticed it when I re-watched, too. I thought it might be something to do with the camera angles. Some people are saying it's Walt. I don't know, could Locke have had his legs amputated?

Another thing I noticed the second time around was Charlie crossing himself at the end. That really got to me. frown


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There's an interview with Damon Lindelof up. I don't think it's going to explain much. (Haven't finished reading it yet.)


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isnt John's last name Locke?

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Yep. Hence the "Hmm..." Some of the Losties may have gotten new identities, I suppose, but that'd mean it could be anyone. (Well, anyone male.)


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I've seen "Jeremy Bentham" suggested as the name.

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I've seen that, too, but the name doesn't mean anything to me.

Lindelof says the triangle will end. laugh [does a little dance]


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Bentham, like Locke and Hume, was a British philosopher. He's most famous as one of the founders of Utilitarian moral theory. His body is preserved in a chair at one of the Universities in London, kind of like Jacob.

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Ew. LOL Yeah, that sounds like something the writers would do. Using the name I mean, not preserving someone in a chair. Although...


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I also think that Locke is the man in the coffin. If Jack is now desperately trying to go back to the island, Locke would have been a really important ally, he is very in-tune with the island and surely would have wanted to go back more than anybody else. But the more important thing is that obviously Jack thinks that he did Locke wrong by getting him rescued. Learning that he died could well have been the last straw in making him suicidal.

And Locke really doesn't have anyone to attend his funeral, does he?

As to why the coffin is that short, I don't know. But I have a feeling that next season is going to be really, really depressing. Jack on his way to that sorry state we saw him at. Hurley's bad luck will probably come back. So will Rose's cancer. Locke, if taken off the island, is going to be devastated. One winner, for sure, is going to be Sun, her baby will probably be born all right. By the way, if that is true, wouldn't hers be the first baby conceived on-island that didn't die before birth? That would make it quite special, wouldn't it? Maybe he'll be born particularly powerful. Or particularly weak. Or both. Something else else to do with the baby would probably really motivate Sun and Jin to want to go back...

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Hm...I can't see Locke actually leaving though. And he would probably have his former lover from Season One show up at his funeral (in theory). What was her name?

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I also think that Locke is the man in the coffin. If Jack is now desperately trying to go back to the island, Locke would have been a really important ally, he is very in-tune with the island and surely would have wanted to go back more than anybody else. But the more important thing is that obviously Jack thinks that he did Locke wrong by getting him rescued. Learning that he died could well have been the last straw in making him suicidal.

And Locke really doesn't have anyone to attend his funeral, does he?
I'm still not convinced Locke left with the rest of the team. After he fails to stop Jack you see him turn around and slink off. I assumed he'd be the one to resist rescue (like Rousseau) and just hide out in the jungle. I don't think the island would let them find John if he didn't want to be found.

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The idea of the flashforward is certinly interesting - especially since they've said that they're planning an ending. I wonder if we'll see more of those next season? It wouldn't surprise me if we catch up to that flash forward by next season's end and that the show will actually involve a smaller group of castaways getting back to the island for some reason.

Now about Charlie -- *why* did he have to close the door? I can see maybe protecting Des from the explosion, but once the room was filling he could've opened it (well, maybe not with the prssure, but they could've tried). It probably would've taken an hour for the entire station to flood. They had scuba gear. Heck they swam their on their own, they could've just swam out. It makes no sense to me.

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if the show decides to take the castaways off the island so that they can go back( for what reason i have no idea, regardless of jacks beliefs)they dont have to call the show lost anymore, they can call
RETURN TO GILIGAN'S ISLAND

If the castaways leave the island only to decide they MUST go back, then they are no longer lost and therefor no point to continue.
Thats the Series Finale!

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The island is still lost.

The characters are still lost souls.

It's a show that's basically been built around shifting one's perspectives.

This whole time we've seen the characters trying desperately to get off the island. Shifting to a situation in which they are trying desperately to get back on the island would be the ultimate shift in perspective.

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actually, if they return home, they are lost, as is evident with jack.
Having a season of trying to get back to the island IMO is ridiculous, its a waste of a season, to show people get off the island and then try to get back, and apparantly jack is the only one that wants to get back. Kate didnt seem too keen on getting back.
My belief is that Jack finally discovers his purpose on the island and therefore stays.

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Hm...I can't see Locke actually leaving though.
Not voluntarily, that's for sure. But he may not have a choice in the matter...

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I still suspect that Jack's going to try and change the past so whoever it is doesn't die.

Maybe I read too many comics. wink


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You know, there is one person who would be even more desperate than Jack to get back on the island. And he sure knows more about it than Locke. Ben. I think we are in for a Jack-Ben alliance...

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