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Locke may not have a choice, given that it looks like the island may very well have been taken over by people who shouldn't have it.

I was thinking that his funeral would trigger Jack's whole "we weren't supposed to leave" breakdown in front of Kate.

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Makes sense. If it's any of the main Losties, though, Jack better find away to go back and fix it.


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the whole time you watch jack's flashback u figure its a backstory only to find out that its a flashforward.
Ok, so why was jack telling the doctor to bring his father downstairs. I am confused, why would he ask for his father if he knows he is dead and he knows that the hospital knows that Dr. Sheppard sr. is deceased.

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Maybe his sense of time (present/past/future) is all screwed up. Like Desmond's when he went into the past.


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This episode was so awesome!

Hurley kicking ass!

I seriously thought they'd killed all three hostages!

Charlie talking to Penny!

The Alex/Rousseau reunion!

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Meh. That's all I can say right now. One watches shows like this by maintaining the fantasy that things will work out for one's beloved characters. Now we know that they don't. Big time. And as pathetic as Jack has been for most of the show, tonight was just excruciating. I honestly don't know if I have it in me to watch again in February. I thoroughly understand the need to shake up the show, but showing a drug-addicted, suicidal Jack after the island, just makes you realize that these characters never learn nothin' and that's the way the writers want it. And Kate? Man, she looked awful. Enough makeup to star in phantom of the opera. Ick!

OK, who's in the coffin? It looked really small to me. Only two characters on the show could die and have NO ONE to mourn them in the real world: Locke and Benjamin. Even Juliet would have her sister/nephew/etc. And the coffin seemed to small for Locke.


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I accidentally got spoiled for the last scene. frown I was really hoping it was wrong. I don't know if I want the show to change that much.


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i believe because its Desmond's flashforward, that Desmond changes everything. There is still hope for the return of the hobbit.

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BTW, SPOILERS BELOW...

I wonder what this means though. Was this a 'possible' future that we might see from time to time? Will the show change drastically by next season--man, I hope that, that would SUCK! I guess we'll have to wait and see.

But other than that, this episode was great! Great moments for all! Hurley to the rescue! Sayid in hell-badass mode! Sawyer reminding us he's not as forgiving as the rest! Walt! Locke having a great scene! Naomi revealed as something different! Death everywhere! Many emotional moments. Despite Jack's pathetic-ness in the future, he was very strong this episode in 'real time'. I felt that for the first time in awhile. The Rosseou/Alex stuff was great.

But of course, the real shocker of the episode was Charlie. What a great last two episodes with him. He was not only brave and heroic, but dashing and funny. And his friendship with Desmond, and moreso Hurley and of course Claire continued to shine in this episode. And then when he makes the sign of the cross at the end...it was really powerful. I'm reminded more of Eko's storyline more than ever.

PS - Mikhail = baddest ass villain so far! C'mon, we all totally saw him not being dead!

PPS - Ben & Juliet survive to next season! We'll see what that means for them I guess...though I wouldn't be surprised if their days were still numbered.

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the whole time you watch jack's flashback u figure its a backstory only to find out that its a flashforward.
Ok, so why was jack telling the doctor to bring his father downstairs. I am confused, why would he ask for his father if he knows he is dead and he knows that the hospital knows that Dr. Sheppard sr. is deceased.
Either a) his father isn't dead, or b) he's so screwed up he doesn't remember that his father is dead.

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Nice idea, but I think it's more likely to be Jack's flash forward. It'd be nice if Charlie didn't die, though. (If you're wondering why I'm posting every couple of minutes, it's because Lost-Forums has slowed to a crawl.)


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his father is dead, wasnt he the coffin on the plane?

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Yep.


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The coffin that was found empty on the island.

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Yeah, the stuff about Jack's dad pissed me off, too. Either he has been resurrected, and is again working at the hospital while his only son collapses, or Jack is deranged and the writers are too cute by half to have Dr. Chief Surgeon say "your dad's dead, Jack" because that would give away the surprise. Blech. Bad form. Going to bed now, will not post again.


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How much of a time jump forward do you think they went?
I'm guessing it's about 2-3 years. This'll allow Walt to be back next season, without the question of why he's noticebly older.

I'm actually thinking that next season they'll switch things up so that the "real time" events will be the Losties after they've returned home, while the flashbacks will mostly be on-island.

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Maybe, but how much can they do on the island when the rescues so close? I still don't know what to think about this. I hope we get interviews or something soon.


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Well, they only need sixteen episodes.

And Rousseau, Ben, Juliet, and Desmond can pretty much be from anytime on the island.

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16? There's 48 episodes left. I think I'm misunderstanding you.


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Next season is only 16 episodes. And that 16 can probably cover a week. This past season was only like a month island time.

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16? There's 48 episodes left. I think I'm misunderstanding you.
Sixteen episodes next season.

Then they make it back to the island.

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Ah, I see. That could work. smile


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So, why did Charlie have to die? Wouldn't it have been smarter to make a run for it and try to swim out of the Looking Glass before it flooded? Surely Desmond would have swum out, too. I think knowing his 'fate' closed up his mind regarding other possibilities...

I guess we can add Hurley, Bernard and maybe Locke (depending on Naomi's recuperating abilities) to the list of people who have killed on the island. However, I'm starting to doubt that this has any significance whatsoever.

I really liked this ending, it was completely unexpected. And it does open up the show to many good things. Next season will surely be different. And I like it, mostly because I just know that many losties will return to the island, this time voluntarily. I can't wait to see the circumstances leading to that.

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Maybe, but how much can they do on the island when the rescues so close? I still don't know what to think about this. I hope we get interviews or something soon.
Jillikers, I know! We need interviews ASAP! Everyone please post links here for those of us with internet compasses and maps that don't work!

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[b]Maybe, but how much can they do on the island when the rescues so close? I still don't know what to think about this. I hope we get interviews or something soon.
Jillikers, I know! We need interviews ASAP! Everyone please post links here for those of us with internet compasses and maps that don't work! [/b]
I really think that the focus will shift off-island for the next season, as we explore the reasons that the different characters have for wanting to come back. There might be a few that stay (Danielle, Locke, Ben and probably some of the Others, and they'll really have their hands full with whoever the newcomers are), but the majority of Losties will leave. After next season I'm sure that we'll have more than just a few of them on-island again.

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