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Re: LOST - season 3 BE WARNED!!!
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Good point. Maybe he figured it would take too long.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: I didn't really get the point of Charlie clocking Desmond. I mean... Desmond was volunteering to go in his place, but wouldn't simply telling him "no" have accomplished the same thing? Yes, either that or just jumping in the water...
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Really good ep. It was nice to see Charlie's best moments and they all lead to this moment. Although, just when I'd stopped thinking of him as "that guy from Lord of the Rings", there's that scene with his brother and the ring...
My Looking Glass theory: one of the women is Annie -- Ben hid her there from the others and told them that the place was flooded to safeguard her.
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Ohhh... Good theory!! I think that blond woman did look a bit like her.
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I was just thinking Ben had her stashed somewhere but I didn't think of her being in the Looking Glass. With Ben I assumed she was frozen, Ted Williams style or something. I figure his attempts to solve the Island's fatal pregnancy syndrome was related to her.
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another brilliant episode, can't wait see more of CHARLIE in 'The Looking Glass' station [ but is he fated to DIE ??? ]
loved the scene with MARSHA tellling Charlie about his 'Greatest Hits' CD !! and the fact that she said she was from Manchester and they mention the 'Night & Day' bar on Oldham Street !!!
it's not a place i go to, but i do walk past it every Thursday, on the way to my COMIC SHOP, it's just over the road from it !!!
and i just can't wait for next week's FINALE !!!
Matthew.
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Well, I've sworn off spoilers for now, but there was one awhile back that said <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Charlie was going to die. </span></span> I'm not sure I believe it anymore, though. I heard last night that massive spoilers would be released today, but I'm not going near them. Very cool that they're referencing real places.
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So...shall we handicap (without benefit of spoilers) who's going to die Wednesday night? The producers promised five deaths for May a few weeks ago. If Locke's pop counts as one of them, that leaves at least four. I'm going to go for five since no one was sad to see that creep go.
First, here are a list of characters (in no particular order) I believe are in danger:
Charlie Rose Bernard Naomi Desmond Rousseau Karl Mikhail Tom Jack Sayid Richard "Eyeliner Guy" Ben I believe Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sun, Yin, Claire(and Aaron), Locke (despite his predicament when last we saw him) and Juliet are all safe. It's just my gut feeling when I look at these characters and see how things are setting up.
Since the producers said "May" specifically, I'm taking that as gospel that the immediate fates of the characters will be revealed Wednesday and not left to a cliffhanger when season 4 starts.
Here are my top five predictions from most likely to least likely:
Richard Rose Bernard Karl Jack
The actor who plays Richard is getting a role in the Batman sequel and will be starring in a new fall TV show, so I think he's a lock.
Rose and Bernard were awfully prominent last episode to not have appeared all season. I think both will die together after all they've been through.
Karl looked like big time cannon fodder to me as he suddenly reappeared. I think the kid's toast.
Jack could be the big, super-splashy death. We've speculated a lot on this one the last few weeks, and you've talked me into it. The finale is a Jack episode and that often translates to six-feet under in pivotal Lost episodes. I'm not totally sure about it, and it would take some major scrote on ABC's part to make that happen. Losing the guy who's at least one-third the face of the show would be a risky move.
My gut tells me Charlie will survive because doing this an episode after what would've been his perfect sendoff would seem anticlimactic. And I just think the producers are messing with us on that one big time. I could certainly be wrong, though.
If Jack survives, I'd say it would have to be Sayid, Charlie or Desmond (in that order) to make a splash shockwise.
I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if Locke makes his dramatic return by giving Ben some lethal payback and taking Ben's place in Othersville. It'd certainly be a dramatic spot for Locke's first (known) kill, eh?
What's your pet theory about who's buyin' it Wednesday?
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Jack-- As I've said before, if he's going to go, this is his time. But I'm not feeling it at the moment. Let's say 20-1 odds.
Kate-- She's safe. 100-1 odds.
Sawyer-- A little worried about him, but, at the end of the day, I think he's safe. 30-1 odds.
Sayid-- As I've said before, I think he's expendable at this point, and, from the previews, it definitely looks like the three shooters are going to be in danger. 15-1 odds.
Hurley-- Safe. 1000-1 odds.
Locke-- His story isn't over. 100-1 odds.
Jin-- Like Sayid, in danger, and I could actually see the tension added to Sun's story if he died. 20-1.
Sun-- The fact that she's dying seems to tell against her dying. 80-1.
Charlie-- I agree it would be anti-climatic at this point, but he's still in serious danger. An the thing with Desmond's visions needs to be resolve somehow. He's still the character I'd be least surprised to see die. 10-1.
Claire-- Slight possibility of her dying based on Charlie changing the picture, but very slight. 80-1.
Desmond-- Too much back story left to be told to realistically die. Plus, he seems pretty key to Libby's as yet untold story, which also speaks to him being safe. However, the sacrificing himself to save Charlie seems like a real possibility. 40-1.
Rose-- She's the voice of the non-main cast survivors. Since Nikki and Paulo didn't last, I'm pretty certain she's safe. 100-1.
Bernard-- In danger as one of the shooter, plus one of the promos makes it sound ominous for him, but I'm doubting they'll kill the last of the "Tailies". 80-1.
Naomi-- Right now she's screaming fodder, but I'm hoping she makes it into the main cast for next season. 10-1.
Rousseau-- Since we've been promised her flashbacks at some point, and haven't yet got them, I'm pretty positive she's safe. 200-1.
Cindy-- Unlikely, since she hasn't even been seen in promos for the episode, but it actually makes sense that she could be caught in the crossfire of a Losties/Others war. 100-1.
Alex-- She's way too cool to die. 100-1.
Karl-- He's kind of whiny and annoying, but I don't think he's going anywhere. 50-1.
Juliet-- I actually think things aren't looking all that great for her. I'm not convinced there's all that much more backstory to be told, and having her among the survivors gives them a little too much information. 15-1.
Ben-- He's not going anywhere, at least until we learn what happened to Annie. Clear untold stuff in his backstory means he's safe. 100-1.
Tom-- I have to say, I think he's a goner. His role with the Others has been pretty diminished since Ben was introduced, and he's popular enough that his death would have impact. 15-1.
Richard-- I agree that the evidence points to him dying, or at least being written out of the cast in some manner. 15-1.
Mikhail-- Well, he's already died once, but he seems to be the whipping boy in every episode he's been in. 20-1.
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I think Desmond's visions will stop now that Charlie has completed his task. Des has just been body guarding him, sort of.
As for the dead pool:
Rose & Bernard - they've been brought back because viewers like them as opposed to other recurring characters. That doesn't bode well with the Reaper approaching. I'm afraid she might bid adieu, and that give Bernard some pathos to work out next season.
Charlie & Claire - the Others want her, they don't want her dead. And Hobbit has had death lingering over him, almost a sure sign he won't die.
Desmond - he's the new Jack. Viewers have taken to him. I like him, but I also like the doctor. His odds are diametrically opposite of Jack's.
Jack - He's had a target since the pilot. He's been the leader, but now he's the outcast (just when he steps up as the boss too.) It would solve the love triangle and put the fear of Others back in the camp.
Kate - She was a favourite of JJ's. But with him gone, she's fair game. Still, I think she's the viewers favourite character. Her and Naomi could have that Jack/Desmond dynamic.
Naomi - Too new. We wouldn't care about her death (no offense to her friends here.)
Sun & Jin - Not a chance. No argument needed or wanted. <insert stern looking smiley here>
Sayid - I do agree they haven't done much with him this season. But he's still my favourite. He's the one keeping these people alive.
Sawyer - He has all kinds of reasons to stay. But he's also been the whipping boy on the island. And more than Jack, his death would shake EVERYONE.
Hurley - No.
Just spouting off.
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Gawd--I hope since everyone's convinced Hurley's safe that we haven't doomed him! If the creators are evil enough, they'll realize he's the most unexpected death! Eep!
(And they wouldn't have to worry about continually explaining why he never loses weight!)
Hopefully, I'm just being paranoid here.
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I said, "NO!"
Just spouting off.
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Just caught the latest episode online to prepare for tomorrow! Wow...what a great episode. They really touched some emotional cords. Great Hurley/Charlie scene, great Charlie/Claire scene and really great Desmond/Charlie scenes.
The scene were Charlie saves the girl in the alley was really touching. Perhaps it was the mood the first 30 minutes conveyed, but I was really hit by that with emotion.
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: The scene were Charlie saves the girl in the alley was really touching. The girl in question was Sayid's friend Nadia!
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I KNEW she looked familiar. And then the rainstorm harkened back to Desmond's backstory.
Just spouting off.
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Wow, I didn't pick up on that at all! I can't wait to go home and tell my bro now!
I'm hella-excited for tonight.
So, we know its a Jack episode. But most likely (I would think), the first hour will be a Jack episode and the second will be something else...I wonder what it will be? I believe that's what they did last year. I'm hoping its something far out, and I'm sure it will be. Probably too early for a Naomi episode, but maybe we'll get some cool-crazy Richard episode or something. I remember when I saw the first Desmond episode last year, in the finale, I was beyond pumped when I realized that's what we were getting.
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Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Naomi-- Right now she's screaming fodder, but I'm hoping she makes it into the main cast for next season. 10-1.
NO !!! i really hope Naomi [ MARSHA ] makes it into season 4 [ and as i have no 'inside info' from her ] i'll have to wait until the finale to see if she survives ??? it's gonna kill me having to wait till SUNDAY night to watch it !!! i've promised myself not to read any of the posts [ this evening following the showing of the episodes in the US, but i don't know if i can that strong to resist the SPOLIERS ........... ] Matthew.
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It's definitely Jack all the way through, Cobie. His flashback isn't resolved at the end of the first half.
And, yes, I have seen the first half. CTV's making me wait until 10est for the rest of it. Damn it, I haven't been this jumpy in ages!
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Holy Mother!
Jack's flashback -<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> its a flash forward! </span></span>!
And <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> is Charlie really dead? </span></span>
We have to wait until next year!
Nooooooo!
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That was definitely an incredible episode!
I'm wondering where they're going to go from here!
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Who's funeral did Jack go to?
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Wow. That was amazing. The advertisements were certainly right: everything changes.
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And we have to wait till February to find out how!
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Originally posted by Arachne: Who's funeral did Jack go to? My guess is Locke.
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I was thinking Juliet. Would Locke leave the island? How much of a time jump forward do you think they went? I don't know that I like this.
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