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You might find something here that'll help, Matt. I've never used that forum, though so I don't know what's required.

Yup. I can't watch them from Vancouver.

I really didn't like Jack for the first part of season one, because he was too much of a cliche "hero" type. But they've really done a fantastic job of bringing him around as a deeply flawed character. From his arrogance to his "hero-complex" to his temper, he's certainly stepped out of the traditional mold. His current arc does suggest a tragic end, though, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him go eventually.

Sawyer on the other hand is the opposite. I really liked him as the semi-villain, self-centered oppourtunist, but he's now suffering from "Spike Syndrome", where they take a highly popular and sexy bad boy and make him nice and sweet on the inside because they think that's what people want. Instead they've ruined a lot of what was appealing about the character.

Sawyer doesn't seem that sweet to me, but I'd like to see him run more cons. In a flashback, if nowhere else. The guy has to develop, though. And there's really no place for him to go but up. It'll be interesting to see how he acts on his next jungle trek.

I like that Jack has more flaws, I just wish the other characters noticed them. Kate in particular.

And Jack's hair is evil. It never changes. That's just wrong.

Hmm... I don't know about sweet, but I've actually never really seen Sawyer as a "bad boy", per se. At least not in the conventional sense.

Sawyer's main character trait is self-loathing. He hates himself and wants others to do so as well. I think the fact that he's actually much better than he wants to believe, and that other people intuitively pick up on this despite his efforts to make himself hated, is what makes the character endearing.

Very true. I've often wondered if he would have committed suicide if he killed the real Sawyer in Australia.

So, how many theories did that little revelation blow out of the water? LOL

That was nuts!!!

:speechless:

I think it just confirms something that we should already suspect... the Others have very powerful allies in the outside world. Powerful enough to <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">fake the recovery of the plane</span></span>.

WTF? That was great!

Agree completely on that theory.

I'm really interested in how Mikhail survived. I wonder more and more if the 'increased sperm counts' and 'healing/survival' of so many Islanders isn't the island's way of coping with some larger problem--perhaps relating to the inability to create new life?

And very interested to see whats in store for Locke and Sawyer and the likely possiblity of their connection which we've all heard about. Locke says in the preview 'you kill him because I can't!'. And since Mikhail is still alive (maybe Locke knew all along he would be), he never actually killed him--and thus, we've never seen Locke kill anyone before. Since he's the only one left (along with Hurley and Clare), I wonder if his status as 'island's agent' is related to that. Maybe even more to what I just wrote above about the island actively trying to protect life on the island?

All and all, another good episode, and Sun had some great moments. Like I said though, I agree with Eryk's thoughts more than anything.

That's what I'm thinking, too, EDE. How would someone Penny sent know about the island, but not about the crash?

And Jin's the Dad! I'm really happy about that.

Juliet want's samples from the women and she plans to get Kate's next? I hope Kate's not pregnant. I wonder how Juliet plans to get a sample (of blood, I presume) from Kate. Kate doesn't exactly trust her.

Edit: Here\'s a link to the promo, if anyone wants to see it again.

It also makes the question of what's going on with Michael and Walt really interesting. I mean... they can't just sort of show up and resume their own lives, not only because everyone believes that they are dead, but because they want to avoid talking about the island.

Maybe I'm missing something here because my Lost knowledge isn't encyclopedic, but if Penny sent this lady, why would there be any reason for her to assume that Desmond's disappearance is in any way related to the crash? He's been on the island for, what, three years? He was lost sailing around the world, right? If the world at large "knows" they're all goners, then she should be surprised!

Maybe I misunderstood you, Arachne!

BTW, did anyone else cry when Sun found out about the baby's paternity? Maybe I'm just a big softy, but I shed some tears! Absolutely beautiful and heart-achingly sad at the same time. I hope she and the baby (and Jin, too, dammit!) survive. *choke*

I thought Hurley killed a bunch of people, accidentally. Isn't that why he ended up in the mental institution? I might have misunderstood...(and I missed this season's Hurley episode)

I think the point is that it seems like Penny must have a pretty decent knowledge of the island in order to know how to look for it (monitoring for electromagnetic pulses). But her knowledge is clearly limited in various ways... most obviously that she didn't know where exactly it was, but also she apparently doesn't know anything about the people living on it (at least not the survivors).

I could've missed something, but I'm pretty sure Hurley thinks that all those people in his life died because he used the numbers (the same ones from the hatch) to win the lottery and supposedly caused people to die because the numbers were cursed. His obsession with his supposed culpability in that lead him to being institutionalized.

in hurley's case, a deck collapsed killing X amount of people. My understanding is that he got the numbers in the institution.
In regards to the person that landed on the island, why would she have knowldge of a flight from australlia where everyone died. I dont understand, was there something special about the flight to the rest of the world, cause i figure its just another plane crash.
Unless in her reality, smae as desmonds real reality, the plane did crash and there were no survivors.
i dont know if i make any sense.

Well, apparently the missing plane was a pretty huge media event. While smaller plane crashes are fairly frequent events, an entire 747 going missing would be pretty memorable.

One thing I didn't get:

Why was Naomi speaking in different languages? Was she just confused because of her injury?

In regards to the Hurley thing, he accidently killed some people, but I don't think there was little choice in the matter. What that means in regards to the notion of certain people on the island being the only ones not to kill anyone I guess is still up in the air.

Eryk, how do you know her name is Naomi? Just from 'outside of the episodes stuff' (i.e. credits, etc.)?

Oh, it's from the credits. I forgot it hadn't actually been used in the episodes yet.

She was only speaking Italian. "I'm dying" in Italian and in Spanish is quite similar (something like mi muoro in Italian, me muero in Spanish), thus the confusion and the fact that Hurley understood her. Later on, she kept speaking in Italian.

So, I guess we have now an Italian on the island...

Let's see, we have Americans, Australians, Koreans, English, Scots, French, Italians, Russians, Iraqis, (dead) Nigerians and Brazilians (was Paolo actually Brazilian? or just the actor?) What else? Is this significant?

this latest episode sounds great !! i just mad that i'm gonna have to wait a week and a half to see it [ i'm off on holiday this Saturday, and the episode airs on the Sunday !! ]

so what is MARSHA's status on the island, by the end of the episode ?? is she alive and living with them ?? or has something happened to her ??

please SPOIL me .... someone !!

cheers Matthew.