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Re: LOST - season 3 BE WARNED!!!
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I hope not! Unless it's some kind of brain washing thing.

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I actually felt bad for Kate and Sawyer both at different times tonight, and liked the four-way dynamic going on, especially since I expect more of it to come to a head later this season.
From that promo I'd say the quadrangle is ending. Thank goodness. Although I still expect Kate will have to choose between Jack and Sawyer on a political issue. (No spoilers, just a theory.)


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So what's up with that monk?? In his office there's a picture of him with that old lady from the other episode who told Desmond about the time travel thing! Are there people manipulating all of this in key roles placed amongst the Losties to get them on that island? I have no idea what any of this means... confused

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Drake, you beat me to it! I just remembered the silver-haired jewelry store lady with surprising amounts of information in the picture.

It's possible it's just an Easter egg from the producers. On the other hand, with Desmond especially, there seems some agency, involving Penny's dad, conspiring to place him on the island. Since Penny's dad buys all the wine from the abbey, it's not a stretch to imagine some sort of connection with regard to Desmond.


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#586604 04/20/07 07:01 PM
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I don't think it's just an Easter egg. There's got to be more to it that that.


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I love Desmond, too! Great, great character and very well acted! (I thought the parachute lady was going to be his original jilted bride!)

Possibly grim tidings, though--according to Sci Fi Wire : <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> the producers say we can expect a bloodbath in May. At least five? I can't imagine us losing that many characters in such a short time! They're not that expendable! Of course it doesn't say five major ones, so maybe it'll just be, like, four redshirts and maybe one regular?</span></span>

Whatever actually happens, I hope it's Lost "bible"-dictated, rather than ABC-mandated forbudgetary purposes. Such a random cataclysm could ruin a show I've grown to love despite not becoming a regular viewer until this season and only recently having purchased and watched the Season One DVD set (with Season Two likely on the shopping list in May!).

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I wouldn't mind losing some of the cast, if done well. When this show first premiered, the producers talked about how we could see characters go off into the woods and not come back, allowing them to focus on newer characters.

The recent Nikki/Paulo episode was a treat for me. I wan to know more about the other survivors. Hack, I want to know about that flight attendant living with the Others.


Just don't kill Rose or Sun.


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I'm more interested in the upcoming showdown between Locke and Jack. I liked both characters at the beginning but now can't wait to see one of them leave (preferably Jack).

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Gosh, a bloodbath.

I have to say I'm not surprised. I'm afraid that Charlie, Sun, and Jack all have targets on their backs at the moment, but I hope Sun makes it through. She rules!

I have a feeling Matthew Fox wants to pull a George Clooney and make a move to movies, which is why I wouldn't be surprised to see him go. I wonder what kind of contract the cast had to sign prior to the first season?


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Well Fox has already got his summer tied up. He's going to be playing Racer X, nemesis of Speed Racer, in the live action Speed Racer movie. Plus he was just in We Are Marshall and Smokin' Aces. I believe he already thinks he's Clooney. Which he ain't.

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If Jack is going to die, I think this is the point at which it's going to happen. Otherwise, I think he's safe for the rest of the series.

I'm thinking Sun is safe, but I'd actually worry about Jin.

I'm also afraid Sayid may be expendable at this point. As much as I love the character, I'm not really sure that he's got much of a point in the plot at the moment. Plus we've pretty much explored his entire background.

I'm kind of hoping they surprise us and don't let Charlie die, though I'd much rather see that than something annoying like having Desmond sacrifice himself to save Charlie. If that were the only other option, I say bury the hobbit.

Locke, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley are probably the safest characters.

I think we may lose some of the major Others, such as Tom, and it wouldn't surprise me if this Naomi chick is fodder as well.

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I've heard before that it'll be one we care about and one we don't. Even expanded I think it'll only be one or two we care about.

I've also heard it's someone we don't expect, which kind of rules out Charlie. If they really want to shock people it'll be Hurley, but that might make people mad, too.

I agree about Sayid, he doesn't have much of a plot since Shannon died, and the actor's been complaining.

Ben could be in for it, if they're going to reveal who Jakob is. Tom, Carl and Alex could go, although I don't want Danielle to loose her daughter. There's Cindy the stewardess and Rose and Bernard. Also Naomi like Eryk said. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Also, Eye-Patch guy may not be dead, he's in next weeks ep in some capacity.</span></span>

I'm worried about Sawyer, 'cause things are looking too good for him right now. On the other hand, he's under contract for several years, and TPTB said the final episode would be in trouble if he quit. That won't stop the actor if he wants out, though.

Personally, I hope it's Jack. If his dad's important somehow, then Claire could take over that plotline, and Sayid or Sawyer (I only add Sawyer because Hurley mentioned it)could take over the leadership plotline. Juliet can have the wants-off-the-island-at-all-costs plotline. Oh, and the love rhombus dies. Really, all I see are benefits story-wise.

A lot of people will be seriously ticked off if they kill Jack, though. I don't understand it, but he has fans. Of course, so did Eko, and the fans didn't blame the show once it was made clear the actor wanted to leave for personal reasons.

Edit: And I have given this way too much thought. lol


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Also, Jack has the flashbacks in the season finale. Yes, I think Dr. Shepard's time on the island may be drawing to a close...


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I think Sawyer, like Locke, is pretty much safe until the series finale. Odds are pretty good of him not making it through the finale, however, especially if Jack is still around.

Kate and Hurley are, imo, the two characters that I can't imagine them killing under any circumstance.

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The only think that worries me about Kate is that Evangeline Lilly (Kate) is involved with Dominic Monaghan (Charlie). If he goes, she may decide to go, too. She said on one of the DVD's that she didn't want to be an actress ten years from now, or something to that effect.

How do people feel about Kate after this last episode? A lot of her fans really dislike her after the way she acted. They thought it was pretty horrible that she had sex with Sawyer because she was upset about Jack.

It didn't bother me that much, although I thought the crying bit a was a bit ridiculous. The way I see it, if something went wrong between you and a good friend and that friend was acting cold to you while you were trying to repair the damage, and then the friend went off with someone you hate/don't trust and did the kind of things you used to do together, you'd be pretty upset. And if comfort sex is how you want to deal with it, that's your right. I don't see that it really means she's in love with Jack but sleeping with Sawyer. Maybe I just want to see her in the best light possible.


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Why do so many people dislike/hate Jack and want him to die? I don't get it!

Do y'all have problems with Foxy's acting?

Or does his character steal too much time from your favorites?

Is it his character flaws, particularly his superiority complex? I mean, gawd, pretty much every character on the show's got some pretty heavy character flaws, so I don't see why his grate on people so much!

I think Jack's terrific and feel the chemistry between him and Kate is really good. And I don't think Juliet would suffice from what we've seen as the Losties' resident doc either.

I'll still watch Lost if Jack dies, but I feel we'd have a tremendous void left in his wake.


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Jack is to Lost as Cosmic Boy is to the Legion.

Remember the Cosmic Boy Death League?

It's the same phenomenon.

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Jack is to Lost as Cosmic Boy is to the Legion.

Remember the Cosmic Boy Death League?

It's the same phenomenon.
Dead on. Jack is too much like Rokk for me. It isn't Fox, just the character.

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nod My problem with him is that nobody ever calls him on his flaws, I have to wonder if the creators even see them as flaws. His treatment of women is unacceptable, too, and unlike Sawyer (who certainly treated women badly in the past) he doesn't seem to be growing into someone better.

That said, things have been slightly better this season. I liked it last week when the other Losties confronted him about Juliet.

And it was in season two that most people started having a problem with him, though, Lardy, so you may feel differently after you see it.


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I like Jack. He is the Hero, and I can't see the show without him.

The snake in the mailbox thing has me thinking it's not so much a traitor as it is an unexpected shocker.

I would hate to see Sayid go and Locke stay, but they really haven't given my man much in the way of story.

Hurley and Kate have been favourites, and while I don't see them letting Kate go, Hurley would certainly cause an impact with the survivors. (And he's growing girth wouldn't be a problem any longer...)


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'Course, as I learned from the Season One DVD set, Jack wasn't even originally supposed to survive to the end of the firstt episode, and Kate was supposed to be the hero of the show (apparently, a more vanilla version of the character, but Kate nonetheless--even referred to her in the early script treatment as "our hero").

Maybe they're revisiting that idea?


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[b]Jack is to Lost as Cosmic Boy is to the Legion.

Remember the Cosmic Boy Death League?

It's the same phenomenon.
Dead on. Jack is too much like Rokk for me. It isn't Fox, just the character.[/b]
Speaking of character analogues, I was thinking recently that it'd be interesting to recast "Battlestar Galactica" with the "Lost" cast:
Apollo = Jack
Starbuck = Sawyer
Adama = Locke
Sheba = Kate
Balthar = Desmond
(since I'm bringing in Sheba and Starbuck's a guy it wouldn't totally follow the new show, but ya know what I means....)

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well !! my friend MARSHA's episode aired this evening here in the UK !!

can't wait to see what she reveals in the next episode !!??

but ..... there's one small problem [ i go on holiday next Saturday, so i'm not gonna see the episode, for another week !!

[ someone will have to 'spoil' me ]

Matthew.

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Matthew, if you have a 'net connection, the episodes are on ABC.com the next day. It's almost better than recording it. smile


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I'm pretty certain the episodes on ABC are only available to those in the U.S., however.

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My mistake. I didn't really the site could distinguish where a viewer was. This is why I don't do tech...


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