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I'm having trouble with the idea that none of the three seems to be catching on at this point to the fact that EVERYTHING the Others are doing is manipulative. Box comes on in your prison cell? Manipulation. Can get out of your cage? Manipulation. Pacemaker? Manipulation. Tumor on the spine? Manipulation (the x-rays just happened to be there? I don't buy it. The Others are way too careful about what they reveal). I find myself wanting any of the Losties just to lash out and do something horribly violent just to startle the Others out of their smugness. I just about cheered when Sun shot the blond woman.

Re: Ben's quote about "not being killers:" Is that exactly true? Haven't several of the Others committed violent and murderous acts?

I don't buy Kate's retraction at all. She loves Sawyer.

"I don't care about making you feel better." Amen, brother.

More seeing the future from our Scottish friend? Cool. I wish there'd been more from the beach and less punching Sawyer. I'm even more over the prison scenario this week than I was last week.

So who the heck is the guy in the eye patch on the monitor in next week's preview? Johnny Depp will be next...

Hmm... the producers did mention on a recent Podcast that Pirates of the Caribbean was filming across from their office... may it's a cameo?

Re: the Others not being killers, they certainly planned to kill Claire to get her baby, and, assuming it was Ethan that hung Charlie, that seems like a violent act. Oh, and Goodwin snapped Nathan's neck. And, of course, Pickett was threatening to kill Sawyer this very episode.

And Paulo gets kind of interesting this episode, with his comment about other survivors going out in the jungle to get killed. I think that he's going to be used to show more of the point of view of those characters who haven't been risking themselves like the main group have.

Yeah, I think so, too. I think that could be interesting.

The Canadian promo wrecked things for me. That "the only way to earn a conman's respect is to con him" line really spoiled the episode. The bit about showing Sawyer something didn't help, either.

There was no Canadian promo this week, and I'm glad of that now. I didn't see the American one, but I remember reading something about an Other with one eye. And Eko found a glass eye in the hatch on the other side of the island. (With the rest of the orientation tape.)

EDE, Ethan killed Scott (or Steve), too.

Doublechinner, the baby's "mom" was Cassidy, the lady Sawyer conned in his last flashback. Good for her for getting him arrested. I hope she's conning him, too. It'd serve him right, and I think it would fit better with the overall story. Almost all the Losties have severed thier ties to the real world, giving Sawyer a new one doesn't fit quite right.

Kate was good this ep. I still want to see her kick some serious ass, though. Choosing not to run for once was very cool, though.

Yeah, when I posted that I couldn't remember if it was clear that he'd actually been killed by Ethan or not, but I guess it is, since Ethan threatened to kill one of them per night, and Scott seems to have been the one.

Hmm... seem like we now know how the Others were able to approach by water that night as well.

Yep. That's the one part I'm glad I was spoiled about, because I don't think I'd have heard it if I wasn't expecting it.

I posted this theory over on Lost-Forums, but I thought I might as well put it here, too. There's been a lot of talk about what the Others want Sawyer and Kate for. One theory is that they want them to mate, which is seriously creepy, but adding a fertility doctor to the cast isn't making that any less likely. I hate the idea, so I came up with something different.

We know some of the Losties have precognitive powers (most obviously Desmond in this ep), what if the Others do, too?

I know that when the Others told Michael which Losties they wanted to seemed like a big coincidence that those four just happened to be the ones in the hatch after the shooting, but maybe it wasn't. Maybe the Others foresaw that if those four came to them, things would work out the way they wanted, but if there was a change, say Sayid going instead of Hurley, things wouldn't work out.

Maybe something's going to happen that will be affected by whether or not Sawyer and Kate admit their feelings for each other. If that's the case though, Skate may not be in the Losties favour. Which would no doubt cause major complications and angst for everyone.

I hope that made sense. I think that theory is better than another pregnancy, anyway.

I don't think it's that they want them to mate, as one would think if that were the case Juliet would be taking a much more direct interest in them.

I'm guessing they need Sawyer for something in particular, and Kate is there as leverage. I've seen theories that he's there to donate blood for the operation or something, but that seems improbable unless they knew his blood type ahead of time.

They might know it; we don't know what information they have. Whatever they want, I hope we find out soon.

Mind games. All of them.

I didn't see that coming. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">RIP.</span></span>

Next week looks great!

Eko, Ana Lucia, Libby -- they were all members of the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League, right? Then it all makes sense. The evil force behind the Others is none other than -- Dan DiDio!

LOL Bernard's still around.

It's a good ep. I'll need to watch it again to get my head around it.

The US promo is causing chaos in the ship forums.

I thought it was a really great ep, with lots of great character moments and mystery. Good scenes with Jack & the Others, and it was cool to see Locke's way of leading as opposed to Jack's old way.

Can't help but feel one of the 2 new characters has an intricate story that shows they are far more than they appear to be (and I don't think it'll be one of the Others--actual Dharma?). Wondering what they've been doing all this time will be interesting.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">But man, it sucks to see Mr. Eko go! He turned into one of my faves last season, and I was hoping all episode it wasn't him. Despite this season being really awesome so far, I can't help but not like this at all. It feels like w/Eko's death the whole 'other passengers in the tail' thing feels a little wasted now that all are dead. He had such great chemistry with Locke and Charlie too. But they did give us some really awesome flashback sequences with him, including problem the most bad-ass moment of the entire series so far when he attacks them back in the Church.

And the Monster appears to finally be getting delved into more. Is it what people are seeing when they see the ghosts on the island? As a 'security system' perhaps it can tap into the Losties thoughts? (i.e. going a step further and being Hurley's other supposed personality as well).

I'll follow Vu: RIP Eko. What a cool character you were.</span></span>

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There was some intensity this episode, in the backstory and the present time. There's no slow developments this season- we're getting a lot of Others action. Juliet's bonding with Jack seems a little too sudden tho'.

Locke's rather casual demanor with the rest of the survivors didn't seem right either. He's always been sort of an independent guy. He's comments with Hurley about how he leads being different than Jack couldn't be a toss away.

Eko had his moments here didn't he. He showed a lot of range, from repentent to violent to unapologetic. There's a certain amount of rationale to his "confession" with which I can agree.

And then we have the newbies. I still don't know either name, just Brazlian Boy and Blonde Babe. But with their recent addition, and this week's subtraction, Locke's comment to Hurley, and next week's tease, I'm thinking we're done with the Trinity (at least for the rest of the TV season). Talk about shaking up the show- no more Jack/Kate/Sawyer dynamic.

Wow. I think this is the first time that we've actually lost a character that was one of my faves.

And I think it's pretty much confirmed now that the monster = the various ghosts on the island. It's interestig that Yemi's body was missing, just as Jack's father's body was missing.

I'm not sure what to think regarding the Ben-Juliet-Jack thing. It may very well be that she is far worse than he is, and is just using Jack to usurp power in the Others.

I had no idea a death was forthcoming--did the precog Scotsman? VERY unhappy with the loss of Eko. He had really become one of my favorite characters, and had more going for him, plotwise and characterwise, than many of the other main characters I WOULDN'T mind losing, like Charlie. Bummer.

Bernard better watch his ass.

Why has the monster targeted the people it was targeted? Why Eko, why now?

Who was it that faced down the smoke monster? I've forgotten.

New blonde girl is kinda hot. 'Bout time we got some new eye candy. Speaking of which, Juliet is starting to work for me...

I still vote that that all of this "tumor" stuff is another mind game. Too coincidental. Ben et al have figured out that Jack is too smart to go for the conventional "breaking." It's way too out of character for Ben to admit that he's beaten.

The only 2 I can think of off-hand are:

(1) Locke (season one)
(2) Eko (Charlie was with him though)

I'm pretty sure there are no others.

And yeah Eryk, it seemed pretty laid out that monster = ghosts. I wonder if the Monster will ever pick a person and actually converse with the Losties more? (If the pilot wasn't on Heroes, he'd be the perfect person for this, especially since Monster killed him!).

I wonder if the Monster ever becamse Rossou's (sp?) husband during her years on the island? She *did* know it was a 'security system', and that could have really pushed her over the edge (and it would make for a hella-kewl flashback sequence).

The new Losties are Paulo and Niki, btw. I'm starting to warm up to Niki at least. They were supposed tpo get more screen time in the Locke episode (Claire was supoosed to catch them having sex in Jack's tent). That scene is probably one of the extra ones they're adding to the repeat episodes.

I kind of got the impression that the actor playing Eko wanted out. I think there's an interview someplace where he talks about being lonely in Hawaii. If that the case we can't really blame the creators.

I'm still not sure if Eko's attitude at the end was right or not. Obviously the monster thought it wasn't. Interesting that Locke described it as a bright light. That's not what came after him in the season 1 finale.

It seems the Jater's have finally accepted that Jack/Kate is not going to happen. Although they insist that:

It's out of character for Kate
There was no build up to explain it
Everyone's going to start hating Kate
Half the audience is going to quit watching
Lost will be cancelled
And there'll be riots in the streets.

I'm almost entirely positive they're joking about that last part. :rolleyes:

Arachne -- wasn't Bernard just in the loo when the plane started crashing? So, he's not a real JLIer, er, I mean tailie.

Eko was awesome and I will really miss his character. I guess you could argue that he and Locke were competing for the same mystical character space, so Eko eventually had to go, especially after he helped save John and re-establish his faith in the island.

Having said that, why was it so damn important for John to save Eko from the bear, only to have Eko die in the next episode? Is everything about John, and the other characters are disposable?

I know Eko became convinced about the importance of pushing the button in the hatch. Didn't Yemi's image communicate that to him? Is the security system actively encouraging certain beliefs to perpetuate someone's/thing's objectives, perhaps its own survival?

I have no idea if Juliette is better, worse or the same as Benjamin. Which is why, for the moment, her character RAWKS!

when ben showed sawyer that they were on another island, if i got it right, then how could ben send ethan and goodwin out on foot to reach the losties. I think ben said to goodwin that if he started running now he could get there in a day.
Has anyone done the lost experience, has everyone heard what the significance of the numbers is?

Jack, Sawyer and Kate may be held on a separate island, but that doesn't mean the little suburban Others community is there. I don't think we've seen any indication that that's the same place.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!***** the wicked evil ABC!! now we hav to wait till Febuary!!! that's so wrong!!!

"I don't do taco night!"

Finally, some hot sex on the island. Too bad Ben was a little busy on the operating table to watch...

The flashback with Kate was a little anticlimactic. Are we to assume Kate cashed those Oceanic flight tickets in to flee to Oz?

If we're to believe what's going on, Kate and Sawyer don't make very good con-people. They both end up suckers in the end--does that bode good or ill for their relationship?

Go Jack, go. He figured out how to cut that particular Gordian knot. Now, how is HE going to get out?

FEBRUARY?!?!? Ah, crap. At least I can get caught up on Heroes and Dr. Who.

Actually, the "hot sex" happened before Ben's surgery. He snuck up on Jack after Jack saw them on the video camera in postcoital bliss. Ben said he was surprised (implying he'd already seen the video earlier with the past tense)they'd done it because (paraphrasing Ben) "a betting man would have bet on Kate and Jack." So Ben probably saw the hot sex when it was actually in progress...and loved every minute of it! Bet he saved the recording for...future inspiration!

I think it was in that moment that Jack came up with his plan. He rejected Kate when she pleaded for his help earlier, but seeing her and Sawyer together made him figure out a way to save them. I think this showed that Jack has very strong feelings fo her, enough so that he wanted her to be happy...even if it wasn't with him. If I'm correct Jack has definitely learned something from what happened with him and his wife.

It's safe to say the holding pen and Otherstown are two different places. In teh season opener, we saw the Others living in a little village, white huts, cultivated lawns, etc. The pens look more like an abandoned Dharma facility.