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Smallville ... MAJOR SPOILERS
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You were warned by the title so I will not attempt to hide these spoilers.

Just some news on what to expect next season, all taken from www.comicbookresources.com:

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Speaking of all things Kryptonian, Sci Fi Wire cut through lots of confusion to clarify that the "no flights, no tights" rule is getting bent if not broken in the season premiere. "He doesn't fly as Clark. He flies as Kal-El," Millar said in an interview at The WB's fall press preview in Los Angeles. "The first episode is all about visualizing the internal fight between Clark and Kal-El. Clark Kent represents his Earth-bound persona, the kid who was brought up by the Kents. And Kal-El represents the person that Jor-El wants him to be. This personifies that." They also note that a new power is coming this season, but of course won't say which one. "There aren't many powers left," Millar said.

Milar also talked about the direction of the series. "Clark Kent, at the end of this year, will really graduate," he said. "And we're introducing a whole new mythology as well that will involve Lana, Lex and Clark. And at the end of the season we pay off something that is huge in the Superman mythology. It all leads towards something. Diehard fans of the mythology will realize what it is pretty quickly, others won't."

In "huh?" news regarding the series, USA Today reports that "the Lois Lane character also will join the cast, but she can't meet Lex Luthor, as Warner Bros. must avoid story conflicts with a future Superman movie in the works." Take that as you will.

Finally, Kryptonsite came away from the big party wth the news that Erica Durance's Lois Lane will be in 13 episodes, instead of the previously planned four.
So the bit about Superman mythology that only diehard fans will recognize. Anyone else thinking (hoping actually) that it means a visit by a certain trio from the future to let Clark know who he is destined to become?

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As cool as that would be, I doubt he's talking about the Legion.

I'll guess that we'll be seeing a fortress of solitude of some kind by the end of the season. Storywise, it would replace the cave as Clark's connection to Krypton.

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As cool as that would be, I doubt he's talking about the Legion.

I'll guess that we'll be seeing a fortress of solitude of some kind by the end of the season. Storywise, it would replace the cave as Clark's connection to Krypton.
I would really doubt that if we take Millar at his word. He said it would be something only a diehard fan would recognize quickly while others won't. Even the most casual fan knows about the Fortress because of the major role it played in the Chris Reeve Superman movies.

It probably isn't the Legion but I highly doubt the Fortress. Even a surprise appearance of Bruce Wayne wouldn't be too hard for the casual fan to recognize. So what else? The bottle city of Kandor? Brainiac? I can't think of something important to the mythos that would be such an unknown to most.

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I think an important part is the "leads up to" statement. It would have to be something that develops with a payoff (the bottle city sounds intriguing). Guest appearances of certain characters might be hard to build up to, and while non-fans might recognize the fortress, they might not see the steps leading to it? I dunno - either way, this season looks very promising with Lois' adddition.

Interesting to note that they're seeing this series as canonical in terms of their movie franchise which means they're going to have to come up with a reason why nobody from Smallville (including Lex and now Lois) recognizes him as Superman (since the glasses come later). Heck, I'm not even sure what the current reason is in the DCU. Did he pull his super-kiss-to-make-you-forget power?

And the new power this season? I'll guess microscopic vision (it'll be like CSI:Smallville). Superbreath is a contender as well.

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I think the Legion is a very real possibility frankly. I mean, they can't really, convincingly, send Clark to Metropolis as Superman in Season five. But they want to keep the series going since it is one of the WB's brightest lights in the ratings.

So, where should Clark spend his college years? Why NOT in the 30th century Smallville?

It certainly has a number of possibilities. Think of it as a sci-fi 90210.

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See, I really want to think that this is going to be about the Legion. But, then I worry that it's going to be about the Legion and that it's not going to be very good.

Brainiac is a good possibility. Supergirl's been done. Bottle-city--- I dunno. Maybe Darkseid. I agree that Bruce or Diana wouldn't fit the whole not-easily-recognizable bit.

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Ok, now I'm thinking about what if it were the Legion and how it might fit with the statement about fans being able to see it coming: if we saw that there were these three new students in Smallville high who were revealed to have powers and were watching Clark, who already knew his secret but it's unclear (except to Legion fans) what their intent was. Then at the end it turns out they're good guys and they help Clark, telling him he has a great future ahead, that he doesn't have to fear that he's here to be a conqueror. It would help him embrace his destiny.

But then as much as I (and we) love the Legion, would Milar describe them as "huge in the Superman mythology"?? I don't know about that -- especially since the silver age Superboy stories were retconned out of his current canon.

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It very well could be the Legion, seeing how they're going to be DC's #1 book by next summer!

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all cool news !!! i'm really looking forward to season 4 !!! what with the cliff-hanger from the last season, and the "flying" and Lois Lane are gonna be great !!!

i too hope we see a version of the LEGION !!! that would be just brilliant .....

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I think it would break too much from the feel of the show if it got too science-fictiony too quickly. So far, despite all the Krypton/Jor-El stuff, the show's felt pretty tethered to reality.

A season set in the 31st century would make it seem like an utterly different show -- I don't know how well it would do with the WB's large teen audience.

I can't wait to see how they bring Chloe back...

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I can't wait to see how they bring Chloe back...
One possible real world explanation is that she was only at the doorway when her dad set off the bomb and she was blown clear.(??)

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They have recently cast Michael Ironside (Top Gun, Darkseid on JLA and Adv. of Superman) as General Sam Lane.

Not quite the big man that I've always seen portrayed in the books but Ironside is a good actor, IMO.

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Maybe the payoff is a trip to Atlantis, where Clark encounters Lori Lemaris?

How about a Bizarro Clark?

Or, during the Re-Byrne-ing of the Superman mythos, didn't Clark reveal his powers to Lana?

Oh grife .......
you don't really think they'd introduce The Eradicator, do ya?????

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE a Legion connection, but I just feel like that would open up too big a can of worms, and just TOTALLY wind up confusing the general audience.


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Lori Lemaris - after all, Superman did love her.

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I heard Clark and Lex were finally going to consummate the first half of their love/hate relationship... or is that next season??? tongue


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Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE a Legion connection, but I just feel like that would open up too big a can of worms, and just TOTALLY wind up confusing the general audience.
But I don't care about the general audience. I just wanna see the Legion on TV!!! Then they could claim the elusive and lucrative matlock demographic - over 30 males with no discretionary income to speak of. The advertising buyers couldn't say no to that.

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The actress that's to play Lois was at the con (SDCC). Quite pleasant on the eye, too... wink


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*I* have it figured out!!!!!!

They're gonna introduce Kal's cousin. No, no, no ... not Kara. His OTHER cousin. You know ... the dimwitted one. Marv-El.

(Okay, okay ... I'm leaving for a bit ... I can take a hint!!!!!)


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http://www.kryptonsite.com/ has a rumor that Smallville will be visited by a certain speedster this next season. And the biggest surprise is that it will be Bart Allen.

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No way!! XS!!! XS

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Kryptonsite is now confirming that this will happen on the 5th episode to air October 20. Maybe instead of introing the Legion in the final episode of this coming season they'll form the Teen Titans instead. laugh

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The very same site, Kryptonsite is now reporting that singer Ben Jelen is in talks to play Bart.

You can see the rumor and a pic of Jelen here: http://www.kryptonsite.com/rumorville.htm

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So not only are we getting the appearance of Lois and the Flash, Margot Kidder will be appearing as an associate of Dr. Swan AND, sometime in the first seven episodes we'll get Mxyzptlk as well.

Maybe I'll get a chance to actually watch this season.

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What I don't quite get is why DC is so nitpicky about seemingly minor issues, such as why Lois can't be in more than 13 episodes this season, or even more substantial ones, such as which version of the Flash this one is going to be.

Since (as far as I know) the TV show has nothing at all to do with the comics -- sort of like an extended Elseworlds -- what difference does it make whether this Flash is Barry, Wally, or Bart?

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I was thinking that maybe the thing that leads to something die-hard fans will recognize could be Pete and Lex's political career beginning.

Or since Lois is here maybe Pete and Lana hook up...they did get married in the comics.

Legion or a Phantom Zone story would be sweet, though.

I'd still like to see Clark be-friend an amnesiac boy who he believes to be a brother and names him on a Mon-day.


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