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Also, it's worth bearing in mind we're dealing with time travelleres here so really, how true can it ever be?

And yes, it was a sympathetic awww. It was very contrived and cliched but I still felt very sorry for the poor thing.

thanks for the link REBOOT [ of original CYBERMAN design ]

i guess i was thinking of the more updated version of the CM !! that appeared towards the end of the original tv run !! and the one that was shown in this weeks episode, was in my eyes the "original" look of the CM !!

sorry i forgot about their original debut look [ in the 60's ?? ]

Matthew.

What does everyone see in this show?!? I've sat down and tried to watch a couple of episodes so far and have found them hideously awful in the extreme!

Atrocious acting, the most cornball plots on earth, non-existant tension or suspense, low-rent production values... when I compare it to most American sci-fi shows I cringe.

I guess I never watched it growing up though so don't have the sentimental attachment to it that most of you have. But still...

that's funny !!!

Matthew.

I liked this episode, even if it did take place in Utah.

And to kind of answer Blacula I find this version of the Doctor more, I don't know, accessible than previous. As for the effects compared to American sci-fi, ever seen 90% of the shows on the Sci-Fi network? Cheesy to say the least. I think part of what makes this new series fun is that it has a little of the cheese factor. And wasn't that part of what made the originals so popular?

I'll take all of the episodes so far over any episode of Star Trek: Enterprise or Voyager.

And I can't wait for next week's show. Simon Pegg looks like he's going to chew some scenery.

I will say one thing. If you are setting the episode in the States, at least attempt to cover up any obvious Queen's English signs. You'll not find any caution signs in the U.S. that read "Warning: Overhead Services". Especially in Utah where the general population wouldn't know what two of the three words mean.

I'm not surprised "Warning" and "Service" are well out of the US vocab

So, how was The Long Game with Simon Pegg as the villain? I probably won't get the full episode before tomorrow.

Okay, I've watched the episode now. Not too bad, wish Pegg would have had a bit more of a role. He could have really be the alien in human form. But it was cool to see Fran from Black Books as the nurse.

Can't say that next week's episode looks too exciting though.

So, no comments on The Long Game or Father's Day? I just got my copy of Father's Day and will probably watch it later this week. Hope it turns out better than the previews made it look.

The Long Game was pretty much a nothing.

Fathers Day was saddly obvious, if a bit emotional.

Although I'm still watching avidly, it seems to be turning into a bit of a waste of space (& time!).

Perhaps I'm expecting too much?

How was The Empty Child? And what do you guys (especially 'boot) think of the news that Billie Piper is leaving next season?

The Empty Child was really good. My kids were hugging their pillows tight whilst watching - and that's always a good sign.

Not too much of a surprise that BP's leaving. Apparently her and CE had such a good bond (hints of an affair? I don't know, and have no reason to suspect - but I know that he helped her a lot when she split up with Chris Evans. Just noticed that - same initials - Coincidence? I don't think so! There's one for the conspiracy theorists!)

So, with Christopher Ecclestone leaving it's no real surprise that she's going too.
Pity in my books. I like her.

For the record - I still reckon that this is the best Dr Who series I've ever known - and that's from Jon Pertwee onwards.
Considering how bad the new Star Wars episodes look to someone raised on the original three, I reckon that's quite a feat.

It just seems a bugger that the two stars are going to go their own way after 13 episodes.

Boo hiss!!!!

P.S. If you want to see a real 'Penis Nose' check out Alice Cooper on the front of his Brutal Planet album.

EC was okay, but all the "mummy"ing got irritating in the end.

As for Piper, well, I'm not jumping up and down until I see the replacement on-camera.

I love it
I love Billie
Love the doctor
love it all

I just finished getting "The Doctor Dances" this morning and left it converting over for my PSP to watch at work later this week. How was the second half of this two parter?

I found part one, "The Empty Child", pretty good. Watched it while waiting in the doctor's office for Caroline's mom and couldn't believe I got to see the whole thing. Could have used a little less Captain Jack but I'd rate the episode as one of the best so far.

Captain Jack - was that not a Billy Joel song about masturbating?

Anyway - The Empty Child part two is on a par with the first part - all in all one of the better ones.

Are you my mummy?

Apparently a real-life Jack Harkness published a book on the breeding of Roses. Make of that what you will.

Boomtown was okay. Sort of filler, yeah, but enjoyable in parts.

And next week... "ALERT! ALERT!..."

www.badwolf.org.uk

"If you're concerned by the thought that the universe has been irrevocably altered by an enormous experiment in neuro-linguistic programming, then just tell yourself "The Bad Wolf is not real. The Bad Wolf is not real. The Bad Wolf is not real."

(was inviso-text) Rose - Are you there? Are you getting this? You've got the point, haven't you? Rose...?"

So we have just two more episodes left then, right? Alert! Alert! and The Parting of Ways? Haven't had a chance to watch Boomtown yet but did already get my copy.

OK, do you want to hear the Bad Wolf theory that I heard down in Bristol? OK, spoiler space just in case (this is all speculation you understand but you never know....)

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OK, so if you've seen the last episode then you'll know that Bad Wolf is significant. It's been following the Doctor and Rose around since the start of the series. Some of the references to it have been quite subtle (in the one about the desturction of Earth one of the aliens mentions a 'bad wolf situation', it was the call sign of a helicopter in the dalek episode) and others have been less subtle (the graffiti, the nuclear power plant. And Bad Wolf is, apparently, the big bad for the last two episodes. Now the next episode has the daleks in it *but* it's also been said that they're not the big bad. Something else else or someone else is.

So who is it? Well the theory that I heard, and that i quite like (so is probably waaaay off) goes like this. Remember in The Unquiet Dead that the serving girl (I forget her name) said to Rose that the bad wolf was in her (Rose's) head and that it was coming for them? Remember that Bad Wolf has been following them around wherever and whenever they go? Remember where the graffiti saying Bad Wolf was? Remember that at the start of the series The Doctor said that the Tardis gets into your head and is alive? The aliveness of the Tardis was also reinforced in the last episode.

So, the theory goes, Bad Wolf is somehow the Tardis. Yup, the Tardis itslef is the big bad and the reason that the Doctor regenrates at the end of the series.

OK, the whys and the wherefores I don't know, but it would certainly make sense. The daleks and Davros just seem too obvious. The Master would fit, in the whole time travelling thing, but there doesn't seem to have been anything to point to him. And virtually anyone else (and it is meant to be an existing character) would seem a bit obscure for any but the most hardcore Whovians. It could also explain why the inside of the Tardis is so different (something has happened to it) but...

I dunno, I like it as a theory but as I say i can't see *why* it qwould be the Tardis. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out though.

Ep 12's called *dum dum dum* Bad Wolf actually. You WILL see what I meant by "ALERT! ALERT"..." (I never put titles in caps - there's another reason for them there )

And Bevis - I'd say that the "Disclaimer" gives it, that's why I posted. Remember, Blon said it "just felt right"

Heh heh, I hadn't actually followed that link until now but it's nice to see some of the other references that i missed. Not sure about a couple of the theories, but the question about Jack's missing two years (why mention it if it's not relevant) and what Adam has been up to are good ones. It bein Jackie or Mickey seem a little... well, odd. I mean, even with what they know how could they really be doing anything. Unless you have a whole 'I travelled back in time after getting powers after all this stuff happens' story which I think would be a bit weak since there's been no indication of that being likely.