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Which is presumably the "microverse" Atom Girl mentioned, isn't it?

Good story. Great art. Loved Vi's entrance and Projectra's power finally showing up. I don't like Vi's hair, costume or name though. REALLY hope they drop the Atom Girl bit soon.

The cover was misleading once again. All of the characters on it aren't even on the same planet in the story, let alone fighting the same bad guys.

Cham's new use of his power was interesting, but I'd think he'd be in just as bad a shape as Skelter afterwards.

And I'm DYING to know if they've really killed Dream Girl or not. Don't they know how popular she is with the fans?


On a side note, I picked up Infinite Crisis 1 and 2 yesterday as well. It's really grotesque the way they draw Power Girl's shoulders and boobs so big. Bring back the Comics Code Authority please. Speaking of boobs, it looks to me like the boobs at DC are just trying to undo the mess they made in the first Crisis. What a colossal waste of time the last 20 years has been in the DC universe. What were they thinking?

I loved this issue - or the first story anyway, the second one just seemed pointless to me. Oh well. Art was great, some very funny lines, nice character touches, nice introduction to both PPs powers and Atom Girl (though wouldn't she have been mushed inside Ellysian - unless her density remains constant while shrunk?) and the introduction of "Legion Channel One" was inspired!

I'm left with one question though - Oh bloody hell, why does it take so long for the next issue to come out?

Great stuff WaK, as Numf likes to say, it was F'n'A!!

I got mine today too! A fantastic issue! It's great to finally see all those things Barry has been teasing us take shape.

Great work Barry. Wow! Amazing art.

I like the back-up too. We can see great expressions on the faces of Garth and Imra, so we can also see all the feelings they are passing through during this little story.

Probably more of the plot-padding effect--if the story had wrapped up in #12 like it was supposed to, the cover would still make sense.

Still, I very much enjoyed this one. It was far less decompressed than 11--I can only imagine how fast-paced it would have been under the original plot schedule!

Atom Girl's entrance was brilliant--it makes you wonder, if she can grow with enough force to tear a human body apart, can she survive powerful blows by expanding her body against them?

Pointless? I thought the second story went a long way toward establishing the relationship between Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl.

Maybe she meant poor timing.

I'm so over Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl as a couple. Can we break them up this boot please?

Malvolio, I think some people forget about the NEW readers of the LSH - y'know, the actual target audience of this series - who otherwise wouldn't know Garth and Imra from Krazy Kat and Ignatz the Mouse (whom they closely resemble at times).

And even if you're a jaded oldtimer and/or dislike this particular romance, the story does have a subtle but important point. By updating one of the Legion's oldest relationships to reflect modern-day attitudes and behavior, it confirms that sex is very much a part of the new LSH's interpersonal dynamic, which has been broadly hinted at in previous issues (burning beds!) but is now made abundantly clear. In other words, these kids aren't your Grandpa's Legionnaires, a point that bears repeating.

Really - and for true? If she is still alive, i'd like to see her revert to the level-headed chick she was, instead of the self-involved ditz that Levitz and Giffen turned her into...

I so want this title to be fun and entertaining, but I just don't like it. The great artwork has not been enough to offset the huge disappointment this Legion reboot has been for me. The main storyline has had no friggin' structure to it for most of the 12 issues so far.
The fact that it took only the first 5 panels of issue #12 to summarize what has 'happened' this entire year is testimony to the snail's pace of the plot. The stupid filler stories and the mindless editorial blunders are Annoying, not entertaining for me. And I have a pet peeve on "heroes" debuting by exploding out of the bodies of adversaries with a constipated look on their faces.

I'm done for now. As far as I'm concerned, the two best Legion stories for 2005 were in Superman/Batman, And JSA Classified, not even in the Legion's own title. I could care less what the conclusion will be for this storyline, even if it actually does come about by next issue. Maybe when Supergirl stops in next year things will be better, and I'll try it again then.

how many times has that happened in books you have read?

Re: sex. In the ZH version I found it a bit disturbing that Ultra Boy and Phantom Girl got married/had a baby when they are drawn like 13 year olds. Same here. Suprised that DC(Levitz)would have a teeny book show that stuff.

If that is an attempt to make them "cool" it doesn't do it for me. It IS my grandpa's Legion so far imo.

Still I think Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad are probably the oldest on the team so I am pretty sure they aren't 14 like IK...probably 18 to 21.

geez, I AM getting old.

So what did Projectra do??? How did her powers work? spoil me? (i will probably buy it tommorrow but what the heck)

Isn't everyone on the team under 18, by definition?

(edit) It was disturbing when Jo and Tinya had a kid, though. I totally agree with you there.

It's great to read the vast majority of you guys enjoyed the issue!

The age of the Legionnaires has never been definitively fixed - especially as different alien races (and species) may well mature at different rates. A 40 year old giant turtle is still very young by giant turtle standards.
The LSH is made up of youthful sentients from teenagers to young adults - I don't think we've ever intentionally tried to tie it down more than that.

Thanks again for all the kind words about the artwork!

Barry, so are we going to see a 200 year old teenager join???

There may be one already

I bet he's refering to Brainy.

it's probably one of the many "Legionnaires" somewhere throughout the galaxy from some other race/planet, not necessarily a core memeber.

Brainy or Cham. heh. I gotta say while still having mixed feelings about this Legion I am leaving work running some errands and hitting the CBS at 10am just to go get Legion. So I guess they are doing some things right.

That is part of it but as the twist on SGs abilities and muteness has already happened unless the Vashians add something to a later story line I'm still not convinced. Their closeness to the Rimworlds so potential usefulness for any beachhead against invasion couldn't justify this story being in this issue IMO - the art was good, dialogue was great, just the plot itself was, again IMO, pointless. I liked the second story last month as it showed a direct correlation to the ongoing plot but this story.. sorry, it just didn't work for me.
Still the first story was fantastic so I'm more than satisfied. Legion Channel One! How fabulous was that?

Couldn't Violet have just flown into Elysion's nose without all this Davey and Goliath slingshot silliness? And why did the "rock" turn to dust? And how could Brainy hear Vi when she was microscopic?

Projectra's speech to Cos seemed uncharacteristic as did Cham's "don't judge me" speech last issue. Some consistency is needed here.

Still, these are minor quibbles to an overall great read.

Oh, it's been going on forever. Back in the '40s, one of hte flagships of the Nedor publishing line was "Heroes Exploding Out of the Bodies of Their Adversaries Comics." It featured a character called Constipated Look Man. The title ran from like 23 issues, which was a long run during the Golden Age.

Of course, that book was pretty tame compared to the Tales of the Exploding Adversary book published by EC in the '50s. Dr. Wertham really looked askance on that title.

I have reprints of those old 50's issues and I have to say--very gruesome, but yet, utterly genius. Exploding Corpse Keeper was an awesome character to introduce each little story, and Wally Woods art was amazing--viscera and all!

Of course, those Nazis at the comics code but the kibosh on exploding internal organs in comics, but not until Acid, Stan Lee and Green Arrow ushered in a whole new swingin' seventies exploding adversaries revolution!