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Really enjoyed this third episode! There's just one thing that confuses me. Oliver was apparently a four-time private school dropout before he was stranded on an island for five years. And yet he comes back knowing how to craft high tech arrows, hack Interpol, cure poison, and basically be something akin to a scientist. Now, him learning to be a "weapon" I would buy. But where the hell did he learn all this crap?! Certainly not from his long-bearded Chinese friend on the island.

Really enjoyed <strike>Dinah</strike> Laurel kicking ass and Ollie letting Diggle in on his secret (it was going to get pretty unrealistic if he didn't soon...)

I think he learned the poison cure stuff from the Chinese guy, but I was wondering how he was able to pick up electronics and Russian on the island.

Ooh... and secret headquarters under a Nightclub? Yes!

Disco HQ? I expect this thread to spontaneously move to the Titans forum.

PS: Markovia.

I got the feeling that Dig had sort of already figured it out and that he and Ollie were winking at each other about it. I think I would have preferred it stay that way for a few more episodes.

But yeah...i'm hoping that they come up with some sort of explanation as to Ollie's amazing proficiency with electronics and speaking Russian. Chinese makes sense. Russian does not. xD

Whoever 'they' are that the Chinese dude on the island said were going to kill him sound like the source of his mysterious Russian tattoo / Russian skills / assassin skills. We still haven't seen the 'origin' of his many scars (well, the shoulder one, from the arrow, obviously, but there are quite a few others that he may have gotten after being captured by the men in black with the guns).

Perhaps some sort of Russian 'League of Shadows' branch or covert ops group or something uses the island as a training camp?

I imagine it will start to make sense as stuff is revealed.

Kinda hit or miss for me... feel like it's trying too hard to be "The Dark Knight"... loved Laurel kicking ass though... and looking forward to seeing how they depict Huntress...

It is funny that with all the effort that been put since the late 60s to distance GA from the "Batman with a bow and arrow" image, that's the first comparison everyone is drawing in regards to this show.

You know, the comparison doesn't really bother me much. There are tons of characters with dark pasts who fight crime in ways that could be considered questionable. I don't see why Ollie is so special.

I'm personally hoping for ONE likable female character in the show. So far every girl has been almost completely abrasive save the waitress they introduced last episode and the computer chick.

love that show. although its completely different from the books, I still enjoy it! esp seeing shirtless Ollie...ah...

Episode 3:

This is more like it-- I was pretty into this episode. Now that a lot of the setup is out of the way, we're getting down to business!

Deadshot looked cool, but I thought it was pretty lucky Oliver was able to pull off the hit he did in between arm-gun rapid fire. Oh well, disbelief suspended, no problem!

Nice to see Dinah Laurel Lance show that she's got a few moves... I foresee a fun Black Canary, hopefully well before season's end!

I felt in love with nerdy hot IT girl and Digg's sister-in-law's line about him adopting 2 white boys was amusing.

The island flashbacks are heating up too.

I'm onboard unless it just goes totally in the crapper somehow.

Computer chick is apparently a Firestorm supporting character. I'm wondering if she'll somehow end up playing an "Oracle"-type role on the show?

I def. think they are setting things up for Oliver to have a support staff, even showing him realizing he can't do certain THANGS alone. Digg's gonna be onboard, Black Canary is coming (I'll bet), and Computer IT Girl will make a GREAT Oracle-ette!!

So what's computer girl's name?

Felicity Smoak.

Interesting that they should snatch her from Firestorm's mythos and put her here.

Well, if I'm right that she's going to take on an "Oracle" role, since they probably couldn't use Barbara Gordon because she's too closely associated with the Bat-mythos, my guess is they probably just searched around for another DC female supporting character associated with computers.

I agree that seems most likely, though I'm almost impressed that they bothered looking through the DCU for one. I guess the comic fans mean more nowadays than they used to.

Just read that Felicity Smoak is Ronnie Raymond's stepmother. Was she ever helping Firestorm on cases, and was she in on his secret?

It probably has to do with character-ownership issues as much as anything else. If they use an existing DC character, then DC owns the character outright, whereas the situation is often more complicated with characters created specifically for tv shows.

<sigh>

Now that you mention it, that is a far more likely reason. Damn that was silly of me.

Impossible to say really what they were thinking in using a pre-existing DCU character's name for the IT girl. It might have been a 'shout out,' it might have been deliberate, it might have been character-ownership stuff. Maybe even all three...

Somewhat ironically, Chloe Sullivan, an original character for the series, was probably the best thing about Smallville. (Ditto Lionel Luthor, who made far more of a splash than Luthor's original father, 'Jules Thorul'.)

Hard not to make a splash when you've got John Glover.

FOURTH. EPISODE. WAS. SO. GOOD. So many fun twists and turns and unexpected things! I was expecting the new husband to be a bad guy, but it looks like he's not going to be!

It's a shame though that the only likable female is Felicity Smoak. I don't remember Dinah being NEARLY this unpleasant in the comics, but I guess this isn't quite the same character.

I like that he's moved forward on opening up to Diggle, and that things have come to a head with the police chief who I'm having trouble seeing as anyone other than Harry Dresden.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">My 200 quatloos is that Diggle heads back to the lair, dons the green hood and is publically seen shooting some arrows across town, while Ollie is in custody, 'proving' that Ollie can't be the hooded vigilante...</span></span>

'Robin Hood' and 'the vigilante' are gonna get old, hopefully they start calling him Arrow or Green Arrow soonish, unlike in Smallville, where, ten seasons in, they were still calling him 'the Blur...'

I was sort of wondering when they were going to actually give him a name. I don't even think Ollie has named himself.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I wouldn't even be willing to bet against you, though anyone with a brain could see the obvious difference in their body structure. </span></span>