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Originally posted by Power Boy: I know I'm late to the party but how cool were Hawkeye and Black Widow! I liked both of these characters, although I felt there were too many shots of Hawkeye activating his bow to make him seem powerful. Hawkeye was totally unlike the comic book version (or at least how I imagined him), but it worked. He's a brooding loner type, it seems, who spends more time observing than talking. I loved how they played up the HawkEYE aspect, making his visual acuteness an asset in non-archery ways.
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Originally posted by Legion Tracker: Wasn't the dialogue in that second ending scene brilliant? And the action topped anything in the rest of the movie.
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Originally posted by He Who Wanders: Hawkeye was totally unlike the comic book version (or at least how I imagined him), but it worked. He's a brooding loner type, it seems, who spends more time observing than talking. Now that you mention it, this was a different sort of Hawkeye, and I'm not sure it would have been to my taste even with a different actor. The peevish motormouth of the Silver Age might be a bit much by modern standards, but I think there could have been a middle ground, maybe something closer to his characterization of the early mid-80s, around the time he co-founded the West Coast Avengers...
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What impressed me about Hawkeye and the Black Widow is that both stood their ground and came off as credible SHIELD agents and heroes -- a tough thing to do in movie populated by Downey, Evans, Hemsworth, and Ruffalo, actors whose characters had starred in their own feature films, not to mention Samuel L. Jackson, whose distinct personality dominates every scene he's in.
It would have been easy for Hawkeye and Natasha to fade into the background, but they didn't. They came off as heroes equal to the rest, each having something unique to contribute.
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Its also a nod to the actors, writers and director that the relationship *between* the two felt very strong and layered. It was definitely a hook for each one to humanize them (and Hawkeye quickly after being 'bad' for so long).
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Saw it again last night in 3D... added very little to the experience... crazy amount of previews, including Amazing Spider-Man and Dark Knight Rises... not looking forward to DKR as much as I thought would be...
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
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I was thinking of watching it in 3D, Sharky, but you've just saved me the effort. (Though I may see the film again in regular format.) I had to sit through 20 minutes of previews before the film started. This is why I go to movies so rarely these days. 
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<------ likes the previews
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I love previews... not to get this thread off-topic, but Prometheus looks bad ass... and Brave looks like a lot of fun...
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
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I love Charlize Theron ... I'd roll back for her.
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I'm not On Topic Angel, but it looks like I'll have to deputize for her. Please continue the discussions on other summer movies here.
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(I hope no one minds if I sneak in one last off-topic comment, since it relates to those posted above . . . I don't mind previews, but twenty minutes strikes me as excessive. But then I hate commercials: I won't sit through a 15-second Youtube commercial to watch a music video.)
ON-TOPIC: I don't mind what's-her-name as She-Hulk, but I hope Shulkie isn't a priority for the next movie. I'd rather see Wanda and the Vision before later comics members are introduced. (Though Kelsey Grammer as The Beast would be a nice crossover.)
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Much as I love She-Hulk (at least when she was written by Roger Stern), I doubt that the enthusiasm of one C-List actress would be enough to make the character a priority for the filmmakers.
I don't think it would be unrealistic to assume that we probably won't see She-Hulk in an Avengers movie until about 2025.
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I think the only way we'll see Shulkie is in the last 20 minutes of a Hulk movie 'everything including the kitchen sink' type sequence.
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I finally saw this yesterday. I took my 11 yr old boy, and we both loved it!
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One of a few movies I could watch again and again and I was never really interested in the characters or impressed by the previous, non-Iron Man movies. Everyone said Downey would steal it, but I really think it balanced well.
That Hulk-Thor scene is solidly planted in my memory and that's saying a lot with my memory.
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I saw the movie again the other day--free at the college where I teach! It still holds up well, with all the humor in the right places.
I agree, the movie is balanced and each of the leads holds his or her own with Downey. Hemsworth is growing on me as Thor; initially, I thought he was too weak looking and the accent forced.
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Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
Something pithy!
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It doesn't look like the video being released on the 25th will have the 'director's cut' extras cut from the movie, since the run time is listed as 143 minutes, same as the 'cut' version that was shown on-screen.
I really, really want to see the director's cut stuff, which (rumors suggest) includes a bit more on Captain America adjusting to the modern day, including a previous meeting with the waitress at the end who speaks up for him, and a reunion with Peggy Carter (from the Captain America movie), who, most likely, is in no condition to remember him...
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We got the Blu-Ray/DVD combo and the extra Captain America bits are on the Blu-Ray as part of the deleted scenes. There's some poignant moments there. Almost as good: more Bruce Banner/Harry Dean Stanton interaction.
Overall I was a little underwhelmed at the extras. There's a director's commentary I haven't listened to yet but I'd have liked a bit more behind-the-scenes stuff. To be honest the extras on the Blu-Ray are more on par with what you'd have gotten on a decent DVD a few years back.
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Yeah, the Blu Ray could have had a lot more in the way of extras.
Active LMB character is still Beast Boy.
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Okay, I got the movie for sam and we watched it together.
gotta say, on second viewing, the movies seems a lot...clunkier. A lot of the dialog was great, but then there were some real...well, shitty is the best word, spots. And unfortunately, a lot of it was the Cap stuff. Look, I don't make it bones about trying to translate a 1940's character into the ought/eens being difficult, but some things just didn't fit.
Example 1-- "Son, just don't!" or something like that. Cap, Hawk and Widow were taking a Quinjet and there's some maintanence/pilot guy on the ship. He's gonna object to them taking it and Evans as Cap says the previous. It might work in the comics, where the reader puts it into more...."heroic" context. But in the movie, the Guy seems a might...lightweight to be saying that, especially the 'son...' part. Just sayin.
Example 2- Cap makes the heroic pose while telling cops where to place officers and assist the random innocent civilians. Then, when they doubt him, he proceeds to beat up a few badguys and they jump to. Yes, I know, Cap is the "ulitmate" leader in the MU comics proper. But the same problem as above is here, as well as Evans just seems to light and slight to pull off cap in this movie.
Other things, like "puny god" were hifrickin'larious. But there were definitely some clunky parts.
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"Better clench up Legolas."
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