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Re: pepsi throwback - the greatest drink in the universe?
#545257 09/06/10 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad:
I think the HFCS versus Sucrose taste debate is overblown. The real reason the throwbacks taste better is that the food industry has been reformulating the rest of product around the sweetener to make use of cheaper ingredients.

A 2010 Big Mac is not a 1970 Big Mac. I challenge the Golden Arches to introduce a "Throwback Big Mac" to show us how artificial their food has become.
I saw a thing on history channel or modern marvels or discovery or something that explained a problem i had with a wendy's burger one time. It literally tasted like cardboard.

Turns out according to that program that the meat in fastfood burgers is so processed, that they actually have to add taste back to it. I got one they missed apparently. Damn thing was inedible.


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Also on the health side of the debate.

If you take a look at the composition of HFCS used in sweeteners you'll see that it is composed of Glucose-Fructose in a mixture of 45% Glucose to 55% Fructose. Sucrose is a di-saccharide composed of one glucose linked to a molecule of fructose so its G:F in a ratio of 50:50.

People who claim that HFCS is the devil ignore this fact: the first thing that happens when you eat sucrose and when it is in the lumen of the gut is that it gets broken down into glucose and fructose to be absorbed. The human body is incapable of transporting sucrose you eat into blood without separating it into its two constituents.

So the difference between eating sugar vs eating corn syrup is that you get simple sugars in a slightly different ratio. Recently, the lay press reported a scientific study on Tumor sugar metabolism . Armchair bloggers point to this stuff to condemn the kernel and praise the cane.

While this study shows something interesting, what the stories and the bloggers who are woefully short on science knowledge don't tell you is that regular sugar will supply the tumor with more than enough fructose to divide. So what the study really says is that people under a tumor load should probably avoid all sugar and stick to complex carbs made primarily of long chain glucose.

Finally as an aside, the carbohydrate composition of HFCS resembles honey. In fact in the less developed world, where labeling is often lax, counterfeiters often trick consumers by selling HFCS with some minor flavoring agents as honey.

I do admit that the sweeteners taste different. HFCS is much sweeter than Sucrose. But North Americans are so used to sweet, I believe that if the food industry switched back to sugar we'd simply demand sweeter products and eat even more sugar than we were under the HFCS era.

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I personally try to avoid the stuff (high-fructose corn syrup) at all costs. One of the reasons being that just about everyone I know who uses it has weight and/or health issues. Also, that industry reminds me of the tobacco industry when they where publicly denying that smoking carried with it health risks and were waving around their own plethora of studies to prove it.

I did, however, love the TV spot where "Eve" is tempting "Adam" with a red high-fructose popsicle out in a park (Eden?). Since then, they've toned it down a bit, and are now use skinny farmers to push the junk.

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this is valuable information. thank you.
Actually it specifically has to do with Passover. Corn is itself kosher but among many Jews is not considered kosher for Passover.

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