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The news about Xena also makes me think that they're gonna wait awhile until they reveal the next Cylon model... which I think is a good thing.

I found myself wondering during tonight's episode, "WHAT IS IT with that ship???" 2 dead commanders-- one an obsessed single-minded fanatic, the other, more reasonable but somehow got on the wrong side of the black market-- and now this. Once things went bad in engineering, I KNEW he'd been promoted over his best position. I hoped he'd live long enough to be relieved of command!

What a TENSE, GRIPPING battle this time out! I think this was the one thing missing from "The Living Legend" story this time out-- a Battlestar taking on MORE than one Cylon Base Ship at once! WHOA!!! Seeing The Pegasus JUMP and then be attacked made me think, this show really is carrying on the tradition of the show that inspired it... SPACE CRUISER YAMOTO!

I didn't see the ending coming at all... though it's clear, the most advanced vessel mankind has may FINALLY be in good hands. Wow.


The sub-plot touched on yet another "hot political topic" of today's world. I wonder how many watching this may realize that the "need" to procreate may well be behind many of the laws and traditions of civilization over the centuries and millenia... and inversely, the situation in this story serves to point out (to me at least) that having more and more and MORE babies is probably the LAST thing our world needs right now.


This show has become an incredibly tense emotional experience for me, for 60 minutes, each week. Like I said... wow!

Okay, now that Roslin's banned abortion, Sharon's baby should be safe. She can't go messing with the rules now. And as for the "dying leader", I'm surprised nobody's brought up the fact that Starbuck fits that role. They went out of their way to show that she believes in the gods of Kobol. I don't know if they said that the leader has to be female, but that's my guess. She seems to be getting put into situations that demand more maturity and leadership, and the lecture from Apollo tonight was another example.

I'm glad Pegasus is okay, though now that Lee is CO, I am a bit concerned about the posibility of him going down with his ship.

Interesting mention of Space Cruiser Yamoto there.

I agree that the banning of abortion is a nice plot point to keep Sharon's baby alive. I'm really looking forward to the Sharon-centric episode coming up this week. I'm thinking that it may serve to push us more toward the feeling of doom I'm feeling for this season's eventual cliffhanger. Though hopefully, with Billy's death, all the other recurring characters will be spared. (Especially Chief and Cally!)

Incidentally, Dualla is kind of a bitch, and I'm surprised to hear myself saying that. One episode after Billy's death and she's fracking Apollo. I'm starting to think she very well might be Cylon model # 7.

It was good to see Baltar again, after a two-week absence. And what the frack is Richard Hatch up to, first being one of the mob bigwigs on Cloud 9, and now behind the scenes with Baltar, plotting against Roslin...

Don't THINK for one second that the woman who advised Adama to murder Cain in a coup, put Leoben out an airlock, and NEARLY did the same thing so Sharon won't think twice about doing the same thing to Gaius Baltar. He better keep far, far away from the airlocks on Galactica.

Lords of Kobol, I love her!

Hmm, a woman who totally forgets about the "nice guy" to go after an emotionally unavailable hottie? You're right, that never happens amongst humans...

The whole abortion thing seemed just a tad contrived if only because there was an obvious third option (to me at least) - rather than incur sacntions, how about giving elite citizen status to expectant mothers? We've seen that there's enough need amongst the colony to sustain a black market, so I imagine that offering benefits to any pregnant woman would encourage many more births amongst the fleet.

"Interesting mention of Space Cruiser Yamoto there."

Funny but true: When 20th Century Fox tried to sue Universal, claiming BATTLESTAR GALACTICA was ripping off STAR WARS, their defense was something like "We weren't ripping off Star Wars, we were ripping off Star Blazers!" (Apparently, international copyright infringement is okay in some circles...) STAR BLAZERS had not reached America yet in 1978, so who over here would notice? (It's like if you watch the first 13 episodes of DOCTOR WHO with William Hartnell & co. you CAN'T ESCAPE the similarities with certain characters / situations / designs later used on LOST IN SPACE... and look how long it took for WHO to reach America!)

Wonder if they'll take a page from Star Blazers and kill off Adama before it's all said and done?

i never thought battlestar galactica was a rip off of star wars, but i definately thought MESSAGE FROM SPACE was a blatent rip off. I thought it was a good movie too!

I wonder if MESSAGE FROM SPACE wasn't really just doing a "space" version of THE HIDDEN FORTRESS ? There's several characters and a couple of whole action scenes in that that found their way almost unchanged into the first 3 SW films.


This weeks' BG was ANOTHER incredibly intense episode. With all the hype about Sharon's baby, I didn't expect the focus on the OTHER Sharon-- and on BALTAR's "Six"!!! What a stroke of genius-- that SHE should ALSO be "haunted" by HIM, the way he is by her! And then the way she found out he's STILL ALIVE...!

It seems to me there's some side of the "evolved" Cylons that WANT to continue "evolving", and become something better than they are. But there's others who are happy being mass-murderers, and think nothing of it. Saying "humans don't have respect for life like we do"-- and then go casually kill someone. Fascinating how they're showing so many sides to characters andf situations.

If the original BG series took a sci-fi look at ancient civilizations (Jews vs. Roman Empire), the new BG seems to be taking a sci-fi look at the 20th-- and maybe 21st-- Century!

I'm really dying to see what happens next...

My love for this show seemingly knows no bounds.

I caught the Monday night repeat... wow!

I'll ditto profh's thoughts on Six being haunted by Gaius... so the real doc's ghost-girl isn't a stealthy cylon implant afterall? Does Six's Baltar also hear directions from divinity? the human gods or the Cylon god? this will be left to subjectivity, o doubt.

Gaius' dream on Kobal showed Adama bringing the baby to the stream to drown. Will Gaius and six blame the old man?

I love this show.

I third and fourth the declarations of love for this show. I've probably said it before, but between this show and Lost I haven't been this excited about TV since Buffy.

A REALLY interesting episode. If a life form thinks it's human, isn't it? Six haunted by Baltar? Now that she knows he's out there, will she go to him? How will tortured/underground Six react? What will Baltar's Six ghost whisper in his ear when he meets former lover Six? Does this Boomer have any feelings for Helo, or is she still in love with the Chief? What are they going to do to change Cylon opinion? CAN they change Cylon opinion?

I fifth the love with all my BG-loving heart!!!

I actually kind of see a parallel in Baltar's vision of Adama drowning the baby in the river and the Moses-like skulduggery that took place last episode. It was very much like Jochebel giving Moses to the princess to raise, but in reverse. Great stuff all around, though! I truly do love this show.

I'm unclear about Cylon resurrections -- when a Cylon dies their memories are downloaded into a new body, fine. So how many of each model are there? Are new ones created or are there a finite set for each model that goes through the resurrection cycle over and over? And why did pregnant Boomer have memories of Galactica Boomer?

The biggest mystery is the whole Balthar/Six dynamic -- it can't be a coincidence that each has visions of the other. Phantom Six seems to know too much to be just a hallucination -- did parts of each others' brains or memories mix when she died at Balthar's house and jumped into that new body?

Great great show - and just gets better!

Near as I can tell, they've said there are 12 different human models of Cylon-- but possibly INFINITE copies of each. (We sure saw a PILE of Sharons in that one episode on the Base Ship... of course, they got NUKED in that one.

For months, Baltar thought a microchip had been planted in his head. Then the doctor (ANYONE know the chain-smoking doctor's name?) did a complete scan of his body, and found NOTHING. At which point Baltar was convinced he must simply be INSANE! (Nice thing for a Vice-President to be-- eh?) I thought, after months of his steadily going MORE and more insane, that when he met the OTHER Six on Pegasus, it was the first time we really got to see what a deeply caring person he can be... in addition to his usual overblown egotism. I began to have some sympathy for her, and him... until he turned an atomic bomb over to her safekeeping. (AAAUUUGH!!!)

But now... it's getting even MORE interesting! (Great points made by all of you guys.)


I wonder if Dirk Benedict will ever turn up on this show?

I was expecting the birth of Sharon's baby to be the big season cliffhanger. I'm actually glad that they made it a secondary plot in the episode. Cliffhanger would have been the obvious choice, and this show often doesn't make the obvious choice, much to its credit.

My hubby saw an interesting theory somewhere: Gaius is seeing Caprica 6, and Caprica 6 is seeing Gaius because Gaius is a cylon, too. Ooooh, that's a mind bender. Raises lots of "But then why did they" questions, but it's possible.

Anyway, I got to see the preview discs sent for review to TV critics. Some of the special effects were missing, but there was plenty there for me to tell you that you're in for a hell of a ride this week and next.

Well that begs another question - if "new" versions are being created, how are they "born?" are some created to be individuals while others are just empty shells waiting to be filled by a dying Cylon?

We've seen that the Raiders go through resurrection, so I imagine the walking robot versions do as well. I'd be curious to see just how they're seen by "the 12" - are they second-class citizens or are they really considered brethren? They've not shown any sense of individuality, but after Scar, it would appear that's certainly possible. Do these robots believe in God too?

I doubt Gaius is a cylon - if so, why did they need 6 to seduce him into aiding the original attack?

Given the rebirth-womb-whateveritscalled sequence at the beginning, I wonder - how did pregnant Sharon get Boomer's memories? Clearly, she was out and about on Caprica before Boomer died. Did Boomer's visit to the base star and her 'sisters' have anything to do with a memory transfer while still living?

"Maybe I'm a cylon and I've never seen you at the meetings!" BWA-ha-ha! I love Dean Stockwell!

The habitable planet reminds me of one of the flaws in the original show; they met a slew of human civilizations and left, just because they weren't Earth... they essentially left these civilations alone, presumably with cylons not far behind, with no attempts to form alliances or mutual aide. Refugees in space would indeed thirst for a 'real' world, even if not their own, even if just for a visit.

Thanks to the "sneaky" way they've been doing coming attractions, I had very little idea what this episode would be about-- apart from them finding a "habitable" planet. Reminds ME of a SPACE:1999 type of plot, where, you KNOW, they won't stay there, because that would be the end of the series. (Of course, BG doesn't have 1999's assinine format problems... heh heh heh.)

I'm really intrigued by what may be going on on Caprica. Not unlike when they reached Kobol, the initial episode really didn't tell you much. As next week's gonna be another cliffhanger, I wonder how many episodes this part of the story will take up?

I also wonder about Tom Zarek. Is he hoping Baltar will win for his own purposes-- or is he in someway trying to set up Baltar to get him out of the way, so HE can come forward again?

Interesting to see the attitude of a HUMAN priest about God, considering most of the "religion" we've seen has been on the part of Six. And another sci-fi icon turns up in the form of Dean Stockwell, who's been doing strange stuff like this at least since THE DUNWICH HORROR.

And, flipping channels right after the show, I was reminded that, as Baltar on the original show had a very "Roman Empire" attitude about him, so too does the current Baltar have a "Roman Empire" connection (that I completely missed before). His first name-- taken from Gaius Caligula-- an INSANE Emperor!

Gaius was actually a common Roman name; even Julius was actually Gaius Julius Caesar. Even so, it IS definitely a Roman connection, you are right.

Not sure where Caprica's going; the meet-up came about easily; was it a trap?

Obviously, something bad is going to happen on the new planet... but a simple cylon attack seems... too simple. But obviously its more than elections fodder.

Had to scroll down past the spoilers. I am so far behind on this so it isn't funny. It think I need to catch up on the last six shows now.

But Caroline has agreed to watch the mini and first season on DVD with me so I may watch those first so she'll understand what's happening now more.

looks like sciFi will be running the last six in a row of the most recent bunch on Monday 3/6, starting from 10 am to 4 pm (on Scifi East listings, anyway; not sure how it works out your way), finishing up with the most recent 3/3 episode. Set your VCR or call in sick! That'll get you up to speed in time for the half-season finale 3/10.

Also, the original mini is set to re-air, starting at 11 pm pn 4/24, gang!

What's this about a "90-minute season finale"? That's SURE to screw things up in reruns-- UNLESS the next season opener is ALSO 90 minutes, and then they can recut 2 90's into 3 60's...

I can't believe the season finale's upon us already! These half seasons are a bitch - it feels like we're just starting to head into something new and exciting but we'll slam right into a season cliffhanger - arh! This show's too good...

What happened with Baltar's Cylon detector? You'd think they'd have been able to screen the fleet by now but there's been no mention of it for awhile.

Oh yeah, poor Callie ... it was a pretty weird and grisly way to open the show though. That and Sharon's ominous warning really set the tone - things are going to get much worse (I really fear for Pegasus...)