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I thought only 5...counting the new one we just saw.

And can I say the Apollo is freaking hot.

There are actually 20 episodes this season, the first 10 showing through the 23rd of September and the second 10 sometime after the first of the year. So two more left, the Pegasus two-parter, then a break.

*Great* show! I agree that things keep building and only get better.

Scary moment for me in the beginning when that moppet-headed kid showed up in that Gideon footage. I was afraid he'd be a regular, then we'd be knee deep in daggets by season's end.

Notable moment for me: Starbuck back in a Viper!! Finally!! It wasn't a big scene, but it's great to see her back where she belongs.

I don't know if I totally believe Gaeta's open collared scene. It's cool to see him differently, but I don't know if I buy he'd let his hair down for the cameras like that.

At first I thought the Cylon attack was too contrived -- two raiders attack from nowhere and that's it? It seemed like an easy plot device so the reporter could see them in action, but of course it turns out they were on a more clandestine mission...

The old theme song was awesome! At first when they played it reaaaalllyy slowly, I thought "cool nod to the past", but when they cranked it up and really played it, it totally struck the right chord, bringing in those sentimental feelings for the old show -- well done. At first I thought her piece turned out to be too positive and almost the propoganda she said she wouldn't do, but of course she had ulterior motives didn't she? Looks like we'll be seeing Lucy Lawless again.

Well besides those 4, wasn't there one in the mini-series that they found trapped on some sort of radioactive enclave which had badly affected him.

And there was the one from the first season that they took prisoner that spoke sweet nothings into Rosalind's ear, calling into question Adama's origins. Or was that one a copy of the defective one they found in the mini-series (which I guess would explain how they knew the second one was a cylon... I can't remember much of that episode)

I still am not quite clear on what they all do and don't know... wouldn't Caprica Sharon know of Lucy Lawless' existence... if she's a well known reporter, Galactica Sharon would know who she was and would have downloaded the info upon her demise. And if she's is to be believed to be a good cylon, one would think she'd make the crew aware of Lucy... though granted she does have her hands, and belly, full at the moment.

And Apollo is SMOKIN' HOT!

Known cylons:

Sharon
Number 6
Aaron Doral (this was the guy who was arranging the media when the attacks happened, who was abandoned at Ragnar)
Leoben Conoy (this was the cylon they found on Ragnar that later showed up and Roslin had put out the airlock)
Simon (the doctor who was caring for Starbuck while trying to turn her into a baby machine)
D'Anna Biers - (Lucy Lawless)

So we have half of the 12 models already.

And as for the downloads, since it only downloads to the copies of the same model and we know that radiation interfers with the transfer process (Leoban's first copy, killed by Adama, couldn't transfer out of Ragnar due to the radiation) maybe Caprica Sharon didn't receive the 'update' on the Lawless model.

Thanks LL!

here's a question
baltar is well aware of sharon and the baby she is carrying, and of course his cylon subconcious knows, but if she knows then shouldnt the other copies know about her?
I have a theory, sleeper agents are tormented by cylon counterparts like baltar is til there programming kicks in.

I'm beginning to think the copies are all autonomous, and that nothing actually gets shared until their indivdual deaths (and then the question is does the info only get shared to the copies of that particular model, and if so, all of them or just one, or do all the copies of all the models get the new info downloaded into their system?). So each one goes thru their own experiences and thus evolves differently, which might explain why some Sharons are very human-friendly, while others are as cruel as their cylon counterparts.

I don't think the copies share the info, but that when the body dies, the consciousness goes into a new body.

I think the idea of all of them sharing the info of the deceased copy is a misread of what was said on Ragnar. Adama confronts the Cylon who says "kill me and then your position will be known" (more or less) It is not that all of his copies or even a few would have known, but that he would wake up in a new body elsewhere and be able to relay their location to the Cylon fleet.

ok, that sounds more plausible... though we have to assume that the cylons already know where the fleet is since Lucy is on board... not to mention the fact that the other 3 must be stashed somewhere in the fleet as well, given that they were able to take in a viewing of her broadcast.

I think a tape (transmission) was smuggled back to Cylon controlled space.

Over all I think we haven't a clue as to what the cylon's plans really are. It isn't the annihilation of all humans. We do know that it has something to do with a combined human/cylon offspring. But for what purpose and why wipe out billions of potential mothers.

Like you said, the Cylons must know where the fleet is

Yes, the Cylons that attacked were there to relay Lucy's *full* report, including the unaired footage of pregnant Boomer. The Cylons at the end (and the other Lucy) were somewhere else (Caprica I imagine).

"I was afraid he'd be a regular, then we'd be knee deep in daggets by season's end."

Anybody see the episode of TRIPPING THE RIFT where "Skip" gets hunted on a tv show? Among the innnocent bystands blown away while they were trying to kill him were E.T., Yoda, and Muffit!


"Looks like we'll be seeing Lucy Lawless again."

When Starbuck said, "Just what I need-- a sparring partner." I envisioned a fight scene like those on XENA.

I liked this series but it just got boring for me sometimes. I would record (digital-video recording has changed my life) but I would usually end up watching it about 2 to 4am. I wa either a bit drunk or very tired and would fall asleep. Or just lose track what is going on.

And to be fair I usually watch History Channel shows at 2am to 4am on the weekends...so I don't fall asleep easily. (I love History of Britain by that Simon guy!)

I may try to record a couple of episodes this season but I just have too many shows on my plate already.

This is really becoming one of my favorite shows ever, and I don't say that lightly. An excellent example of what BG is doing so well was the bridge scene during the Cylon attack. There was such a sense of drama--intercut shots, tension, voices over the intercom (reminded me of the attack on the first Death Star, with the distorted voices). They have been so ambitious with their themes and the stakes for humanity are so high--I'm just a sucker for this kind of drama.

Starbuck working the bag--wow. So great to see a woman who's not a Barbie doll gettin' all sweaty. I do, however, have to agree on Apollo. I'm wicked straight and had to catch my breath when that towel slipped!

I don't think they'll ever solve that mystery, Bubble-Wrap,

Aww man what a way to end the Season! now i can't wait till January. why was i not suprised that Cain would end up being a female but an Admiral to boot?? damn i am loving this show.

I remember so clearly how on the orignal show, after 7 flawed episodes and 4 more TERRIBLY flawed episodes, "The Living Legend" with Lloyd Bridges as Commander Cain, was when BG finally "got good". The new BG has been getting better steadily, and really "got good" over the last several episodes. So of course, I was interested to see how this went.

OH, GOD... I wonder how Michelle Forbes feels being typecast as a 100% cold hard-nosed BITCH? Dressed in black, I kept expecting to see Stacy Keach show up (with Kurt Russell not far behind... heh heh)

They're really playing with MY feelings here... over the last few weeks, they FINALLY made me start to respect-- even like-- Bill Adama. So NOW they bring in someone who's at least 10 times WORSE than he ever was. It's just no contest!

Originally, Cain was someone who didn't play by any rules except his own. He fought having the crews integrated, etc. Now they've flipped it... and you've got someone it seems that a position of power has REALLY gone to their head. I mean-- EVERY thing Adama said, Cain countermanded. If it makes sense-- "NO." And now, she's going to execute someone who against great odds did something everyone said was impossible, and inspired the entire crew, because he ACCIDENTALLY killed a RAPIST??? I think we're seeing some real sci-fi allegorical commentary on modern society, aren't we?

I'd say the ENTIRE CREW of this Pegasus are EXACTLY the kind of humans who DESERVED to be exterminated by the Cylons. WHO'S WITH ME???


By the way, I really HATE "season-ending cliffhangers". You KNOW who we have to blame for this crap, don't you? TERRY NATION!!! He was the one who started it with BLAKE'S 7, where each of the 4 seasons ended on a cliffhanger (including the 4th year-- never mind that there NEVER WAS a 5th year... GRRRRRRRRRR.)

It isn't really a season ending cliffhanger, just a mid-season one. Just think, if this was HBO, we would have to wait 2 years for a new season to start. Three months isn't too much.

Well, they SAID "season finale" onscreen!


The original BG was-- originally-- intended to be a series of TV movies, just like McCLOUD had been (same producer!). ABC screwed that over when they insisted on a weekly... but midway thru the season, they began taking the show off for several weeks at a time, then running a few episodes before taking it off for more weeks at a time. Which, in effect, was what Glen Larson wanted in the first place.

A few years later, HILL STREET BLUES began doing the SAME thing-- and now, nearly every network show is like that! (But BG did it first.)

I always said the original BG would have been better if they focused more on the soap-opera and less on expensive special effects... (and now we have both!)

Amazing episode -- From the elation of finding Pegasus, to the unease around Cain's authority, to the disgust of what was done to the other Six, to the intensity of Adama deciding to launch his vipers! Wow. Ranks right up there with the best season sliffhangers around (although not quite topping their last one). At least we don't have to wait too long to see how it ends.

I hope we get to see a scene with The President laying down the law with Caine.

Considering the update of "Lost Planet Of The Gods" took-- what-- 8 episodes??? --I'm guessing the update of "The Living Legend" isn't gonna finish up in 2.

Whereas Lloyd Bridges disappeared in a blaze of battle, leaving viewers unsure if he was still alive or dead (hoping the former but fearing the latter), at this point I'm ALEADY hoping Michelle Forbes winds up getting blown to pieces, ON-CAMERA, and inspiring cheers from the audience when it happens.

But that's me!


I swear, I could not get this episode out of my mind for the rest of the night! The same sort of thing happened way back when I was watching that awful "1980" THING... (I can't bring myself to type the name!!) --except, this time, the writing was really, REALLY good. NASTY-- but good.

Has anyone EVER had a "content warning" in the MIDDLE of a program before???

By the way... I know this series must be having an effect on me. The other night I actually had a dream with Baltar in it... and then last night they had the most SYMPATHETIC scene they ever did with him. It looks to me like he's getting a bit more in control of himself, the way he calmly talked to Six and asked her to leave (and then-- "2010"-like-- she was gone!). His talking to the prisoner really showed a side of himself that's been hidden by all the insanity and fear and paranoia caused by the war.

Since there appears to be no "Sheba" character in sight-- it makes me wonder if the prisoner "Six" may wind up becoming a regular after this story is done? (Anne Lockhart was the 1st instance I could ever recall of a new "regular" joining a cast in MID-season! All the network interference & flawed writing aside, BG really was years ahead of its time.)

i fear there is no other outcome for the captive six except for a tragic end.

I think she is too old to be an Admiral.
p.p.