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Still don't like Terry, he is been way to cocky since he has been winning. And really, he doesn't have the numbers to win the votes. Only Austin, Sally, and maybe Bruce would vote for him. All the others would vote for whoever would be next to Terry if he made it to the final two. Say Danielle made it with Terry. Aras, Shane and Cirie would vote for her over Terry. That leaves Courtney who would flipflop but in the end I think she to would vote for Danielle.
Everyone has been talking about Cirie being under the rader, but really its been Danielle. She never really hasn't offened anyone and as always, there is someone that you don't like more to vote for/aganist.
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Terry has been a good guy through all of this. He's been a bit arrogant lately, but with good reason.
Surprisingly, I find myself rooting for Aras tho'. He got lumped in with the "bad" tribe, but he's played the game well. I can't fault him for allying himself with Shane, he needed someone. I wouldn't mind seeing Aras win it.
Shane has been a jerk. But hearing his credentials, I can't help but think of Richard Hatch from the first season. Danielle has been played well, but Cirie is just coattailing it.
It's really hard for me to root for anyone not playing this game. And that means all apsects of it. You need to be a physical threat to some degree. And you have to engage in some of the manuvering. Kelly and Tina from the first two seasons are great examples of players that weren't necessarily physically imposing, but they played the game to the fullest. Cirie, and some extent Danielle, aren't really a factor other than they are a pawn for voting.
Just spouting off.
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I still hope Terry kicks all their asses!
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Originally posted by MLLASH: I still hope Terry kicks all their asses! Seconded!
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Well after tonight, it's down to the final four. Guess that means Sunday is the finale. Just a few more days of Shane and his antics.
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Actually the finale isn't on until a week from Sunday, May 14 (my birthday and Mother's Day).
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Actually I'm all for Cirie winning, I think she's played one hell of a game, especially since she's well aware that she's not a physical threat to win any challenges. She was told pratically from Day 1 that her days were numbered by Shane and Aras, and yet she's been able to finagle her way to the final 5. She's mentally outplayed everyone, as shown last week when she puppeted the votes to oust Courtney. I really don't care for either Terry or Aras, both strike me as arrogant and sexist. I'd lump Shane right in there ith them if he weren't so off his rocker. 
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I'm actually all for Cirie too.
I'm going to miss it tonight, no way I'm getting out of here in time to see ANY of it, so someone please post thorough spoilers!
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For Lash (taken from TVGrapevine.com forums since I'm crap at writing recaps). Not putting into the spoiler brackets since it is a bit long, so: B E W A R E H E R E B E S P O I L E R S Recap: Survivor 12 Panama Exile Island May 4, 2006 Cirie rules the tribe as she uses her influence to get the votes needed to send Courtney home. Shane thinks that Danielle was to go and Terry and Courtney think they are sending Danielle home. They are all surprised at the vote....That is, all but Cirie who orchestrated Courtney's sendoff. Shane is shocked that it was all done without his knowledge. Cirie says that the return from tribal was a little uncomfortable. Cirie tells him that they didn't have time to tell him because he was off in no man's land and there was no opportunity. He tells Aras that Danielle is the next to go. Terry says that last night was the fifth failure for him to get some numbers on his side. He says that since they lied to him he has no problem with Danielle going next. The next reward challenge is for them to navigate an obstacle course where they move from one round to another. They are playing for love. Face to face and the winner will decide who gets love and how much love they will get. They have to dig through the sand to find a bag and take the bag to a spot. There are four spots. Shane is out, the rest are in. Aras, Cirie, Danielle and Terry are in. They have to untie a snake and move through an obstacle course and up over a sand hill to the finish. Terry, Danielle and Aras move to the next round. Terry loses his snake and has to go back but now Aras and Terry make it while Danielle moves out of the competition. Terry loses his fish and Aras takes the lead. They move to dead even as they meet at a point. Aras loses his bag and has to go retrieve it and Terry wins reward. Terry sees his wife, Trish. Trish says that he looks good. Aras gets to see his mom, Theresa. She says that he rocks. Danielle gets to see her mom, Denise. Cirie sees her husband who says he is so proud of him. Shane gets to see his son, Boston. Those selected get to go to a luxury villa. Two get to go there, one returns to camp to see how they are living. The next one chosen gets a hug and the last one chosen merely gets to say hey from a distance of 20 feet before being sent to Exile Island. Terry chooses himself to go overnight and then chooses Boston and Shane. He gives Cirie a night at camp with her husband. There are two people left. Who gets the hug. He gives that to Aras and he goes to get his hug and Danielle and Denise get to say hi from a 20 foot distance. Danielle tells her mom that she makes her cry and to stop. Danielle heads to Exile Island after a wave and a smile to her mom. On Exile Island, Danielle says that Terry is getting even with her for double crossing her in the vote, but she says that it is all good. Back at camp, Cirie's hubby is surprised at how primative it all is and jumps when the fire sparks. At the luxury villa, Shane is so happy to have his son and lots of food. Terry fills his stomach while Trish talks about how emaciated her husband looks and how she will work to get him back to his studly appearance when he returns home. Trish, Terry's wife, listens and contributes to his strategy. Shane notices that she is right in there with him and comments that she is very competitive. Terry says that it is wonderful to have a night in a bed with his wife. Shane is glad that he didn't quit in the early days when he was so tempted, because if he had, his son would never have had this exciting experience. Boston says that his dad is like another kid with him and they have lots of fun and great experiences. Terry and Trish talk with Shane about going to the finals. Morning dawns and Gitanos awakes to finding water and making fire. Cirie's husband is put to work and Cirie says that they need to conserve their energy and that her husband can take some of the load off. He complains that she has her own little servant complaining that he hears "Hunny bunny, can you do this, get me water, hunny bunny?" She says that the boat is coming and they have heartfelt hugs. He tells her bye and gets on the boat. Cirie says that having HB at the camp reminds her of why she is there and why she wants to win. She says she wants a wonderful life and that is why she is there. Shane and Terry return and Terry gives his reasoning on why he delegated the time the way he did. Aras says that he should have some sympathy and Terry says that marriage made a difference. Aras argues that his mom is his rock and that she meant as much to him as his wife did to Terry. Terry says that when he has a wife he will understand. Terry doesn't like being talked to with no respect from a 24 year old and Aras says that being 40 something doesn't mean that he shouldn't respect him and his feelings. Danielle returns and says that her experience was alone. Today's immunity challenge requires balance and a steady hand. They have to stand on a stand and stay steady. They have to lower a bucket on a rope to the water to fill the bucket. The water is then poured into a slim bamboo pole. As the water rises, a flag rises with it. The first to get the flag wins immunity. They must keep their feet on the stand and their knees and buttocks are not allowed to touch the stand. Terry's flag is raising quickly. Cirie's flag is starting to rise, and it is even with Terry and Danielle being neck and neck. Shane has no water and he finally figures out that the water must go into the shoot. Aras is catching up. Terry is getting closer and is almost able to grab it. Terry is raising his flag and Aras is getting closer. Terry reaches for and gets his flag to win immunity for the fifth time. Shane feels comfortable that Danielle is going home, but Aras is not happy with the fact that Shane was going to take Courtney to the final two. Aras says that knowing that means that he has no alliance with Shane anymore and Danielle feels that she has a strong bond with Aras and Cirie. She feels that the plan is for Danielle and Aras to send Shane home. Cirie says that she loves Aras but she is going to do everything she can to move herself forward in the game. Cirie says that there is going to be huge fireworks tonight. Sally, Bruce, Austin, and Courtney come in for jury. Terry says that it was tough to allocate the love. He says that his first thought was for his wife. He says that then it was Shane's son and then for Cirie. He says that he thinks it all worked out okay. Cirie says that her husband had a once in a lifetime experience with her. Shane says that there was absolutely nowhere else on the planet he would rather be when he was watching the sunset with his son. Aras says that winning challenges is great but you have to win the people. Shane says that he can be trusted and Danielle says that you have to make moves in the game to further oneself. Jeff mentions that the others were working hard, but he watched Shane fool around and crack jokes. Shane says that he isn't too worried because there is rust on him. He isn't a wonder boy who could at anytime just levitate home or Cirie who has so much talent. The votes: Aras votes Shane. We don't see Terry's vote Shane votes Danielle We don't see Cirie's vote We don't see Danielle's vote Danielle, Shane, Shane, Shane. Twelfth person voted out of Exile Island. Shane says, "Wow!" He says that he is going to have chocolate bar in about ONE minute! His torch is extinguished and leaves. Jeff leaves them with the fact that the last three votes have been surprises and that brings in the issue of trust. He sends them back to camp.
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Man, Shane was trying too hard last night. Glad he's gone.
Terry got Aras', and my, dander up with his assignation of family importance. As for Danielle, she accepted her place with Terry and didn't apologize. Good for her. I want Cirie gone next.
Did I miss something- didn't Jeff tell them the hidden idol was only good to the final four? Terry's gambling on something he doesn't have...
And with an episode next week- are they still doing a 2hr finale and reunion show on the 14th?
Just spouting off.
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Originally posted by CJ Taylor: And with an episode next week- are they still doing a 2hr finale and reunion show on the 14th? I noticed the episode scheduled on my TiVo for next week too. The finale is still set to run 2 hours followed by the 1 hour reunion. So I'm not sure why we are getting one more regular episode with only four survivors left. Unless the title for next week's episode is a clue. "Call the Whambulance".
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Terry will not win. He should have used the immunity idol to save Nick,Austin and Sally. He should have used it when he had the numbers. The others will ask him why he didn't use it. I will say that someone will use that aganist him if he reaches the final two.
Aras said something smart for a change at tribal when he said that this game was not only about winning the challenges but winning over people. Tom from two seasons did that-he won challenges, but was always humble and everyone liked him because he never got a big head about it. Terry is winning, but is not making friends with anyone, being a little bit too full of himself and not using the immunity idol sooner to save his tribe mates.
That's how I see it. I think Aras will be next out. I wouldn't be dissapointed if Danielle or Cirie won. Cirie has shown that she knows how to play the 'outwit, outlast' part.
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Interesting, I always thought Tom to be as full as himself as Terry is, he was just smarter about tooting his own horn. For me he fell from grace during the finally challenge when he maniulated his way into the finals. I found him to be incredibly hypocritical, spinning the integrity line when it suited him, then ignoring it when it didn't work in his favor. I'd much rather have a sleezy person who comes right out and admits to his schemes win, than someone who in his own head is taking the moral high-ground, but in reality is much more of a snake. Just my opinion.
As for this season, I'm all for Cirie, though I wouldn't be too opposed to Danielle winning. I found this season's men to be a little too sexist for my tastes.
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I can see that. But in that last challenge, I fully believe that Tom would have balanced on that pole until Ian gave up and would have won anyways. He never did anything that was outright rude or condscending unlike Terry, who has shown to be a bit vindactive. And I think the thing about being split along gender and age lines had something to do with the guys sexist attitudes.
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Both Terry and Aras drive me nuts; I don't want either of them to win. (And what was with Terry's whining about not being told the rule of the reward challenge?.. yuck!) It was actually uncomfortable watching last night b/c of all the tension between the two guys; I kept leaving the room so I wouldn't have to listen to them bitch.
I would probably would pick Cirie over Danielle, but wouldn't mind either one winning.
Why are you laughing at me? It's unkind, as well as puzzling!
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I do somewhat understand and feel sorry a little for Terry. Ever since the merge, he's had a colossal target painted on his back, and has watched his only allies (Nick, Sally & Austin) be eliminated 1 by 1. Even if he HAD used the idol to save one of them early, it wouldn't have mattered. They still wouldn't have had the numbers and would have delayed things by a day at most.
So then they get down to 5, he allies with Shane only to watch Shane be elminated.
Yeah, he's feeling ganged up on. So then he finds a new ally in Danielle and now she might be out. The preview sure made it seem like Cirie gets the fire going first.
Here is where Terry screwed up with the immunity idol. He DEFnitely should have let Danille have it last night, because EVERYone thought/knew he had it. He could easily have gotten Cirie ousted. That was his big screwup. he should have been braver about it.
You gotta admire the guy for still being there by sheer force of will and skill.
Still pulling for either Terry or Cirie here. Danielle as third pick, Aras as fourth choice only because he's still there.
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I missed it last night. Did they not vote someone off the island? So this was really just a place filler episode?
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They voted; it was a tie between Cirie and Danielle; they are doing a fire-making tie breaker TO BE CONTINUED on Sunday's finale... the preview makes it look like Cirie's fire catches first.
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Yeah, they totally left us hanging, no one voted out. It DOES indeed look like Cirie's fire is higher in the "next time on Survivor" clip, but I heard somewhere that a preview shown during CSI showed their fires being more even.
Anyone but Aras!!!
Why are you laughing at me? It's unkind, as well as puzzling!
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Sucky finale!!! Aras did not deserve to w in.
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That's cool with me. I liked Aras.
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Anyone but Terry! Even at the end he still felt the win was his birthright. and Shane was a complete asswipe at the last tribal council on the island. Nice to see Cirie getting all that love (not to mention a car) 
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I'm disappointed that Air-ass won, but really Terry and Cirie hung themselves; Cirie choked on the tiebreaker and Terry choked in the final immunity challenge.
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terry LOST?!?! hooray!!!! about time!
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