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Is Garth, at 14 (and a couple of bubbles) to low to run with you guys on this XP farming? I'd love to clear out the debt he collected from the TF and get him up to a 20.

Scott, I think he needs to be at least a 16 for the Synapse TF. If you can get on early, I could help you level him up if you'd like. Condo's half way to level 20 so we can blow away a number of higher level baddies together.

Does he have to be 16 or can he sk to someone? With his debt (4k+) I don't think there is anyway to get him to a 16 that quick.

He can't SK into a TF. This XP farming is basically the first three missions of the Synapse TF which you do over & over. One person stays at Synapse and creates the team, a fast runner or flyer heads to Steel to do a Patrol mish to four locations (then heads to Positron), the others go into Perez through gate in Skyway and take out a bunch of clocks. Steel runner speaks to Positron and you disband, reform team and do it all over again. You all get about 1300 Xp each time and it takes about 10 minutes all told.

Wanna bet?

Unless there have been major changes I'll take that bet. It took Gung 2 MONTHS to get from 15 to 16 with running around with teams in their 20's. Like I said, a lightning blaster is screwed. I'll never build another one.

While I'm thinking about it, I'd like to get everyone's (anyone's) opinion on if you think this is a glitch I should have reported or not.

I was running Snake for a couple of hours last night. No debt and solo. He faced two 10th level Gardvords back to back but they (the Gardvords) were in seperate groups. The first one only gave Snake 18 xp. 18! The second one gave him either 32 or 34 which should be about the norm for a lieutant one level below.

What do you think may have caused only the 18 xp for the first one? I nearly died fighting the bastard and to only get 18 xp kinda ticked me off.

The 18 one had probably been attacked by another player not as tenacious as you -- maybe brought him down halfway in HP before having to flee. By the time you found him, he'd recovered his HP but was still linked to that other player.

So if they are fully recovered you still only get credit for a partial 'arrest'? That, to me, is a serious flaw. Once fully recovered then their xp should be reset and only given to the one to arrest them.

I hadn't noticed this before in any other arrests but I really only pay attention to the lt's and bosses when it comes to xp.

I think it only resets if the other player is killed and has to go to the hospital. He probably received the other half of the xp thanks to your efforts.

Let's try it, if that doesn't happen we'll have experience for tacking it again.

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As to when, I would like to do some TF XP farming. as I agree that it will probably be nerfed, though how they can do it without being mean to people who actually want to finish the TF will probably be a challenge.

The interpretation of this "glitch" that I'm hearing on the boards is that the first mission gives out too much mission XP compared to the work required. However, I think I read, too, that all the mission XP is the same, so it may be a comlicated glitch to deal with, requiring that they re-do the TF so that you have to get through some of the tougher misisons first.

Basically it sounds like another TF with design issues.

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Originally posted by Deathstroke Lad:
While I'm thinking about it, I'd like to get everyone's (anyone's) opinion on if you think this is a glitch I should have reported or not.

I was running Snake for a couple of hours last night. No debt and solo. He faced two 10th level Gardvords back to back but they (the Gardvords) were in seperate groups. The first one only gave Snake 18 xp. 18! The second one gave him either 32 or 34 which should be about the norm for a lieutant one level below.

What do you think may have caused only the 18 xp for the first one? I nearly died fighting the bastard and to only get 18 xp kinda ticked me off.

That sounds like a bug to me. Try sending a /bug report immeidately afterwards if it happens again. According to them, a report done with /bug logs location and recent activity.

Then why the hell do I spend my time getting killed when I can run around Steel (or some other nice XP collection area), knock 'em down to half life then just run and hide?

Or am I just real slow and just now noticing this is the way to do things? That's just about as bad as kill stealing.

Agreed, but haven't you ever noticed that you get XP when someone kills one of your runners that get away from you?

Actually no. I'm a hound. I don't let any runners get away.

And I have noticed something. When I'm killed, especially in KR, a lot of the groups that have killed me are not there when I go back for revenge. Especially if an EID was involved. Three times recently I've been killed by a group with an EID but when I went back, no group there nor have I received any XP for anyone else killing them. Is there a time, lag, between getting killed and going to the hospital when you aren't eligible for the XP from a group you were attacking but was finished by others?

I realize that if the hospital is in a different zone, say the AP hospital if you are killed in Perez, you won't receive anything unless you get back to that zone prior to the group getting arrested. But KR, where I've noticed this, is in the same area. And my hunting ground is not that far from the hosptial. Sometimes I can get back and find a group still recovering but not like I used to.

Caroline even mentioned the other day she saw a group just disappear that she was running away from. Perhaps they now have boundaries they cannot cross and that eliminates the xp from being earned?

Then there is the old kill stealing Police Drones. I still think that is totally unfair. If another player can kill and you still get some xp then the same ought to be true for drone arrests.

I've actually heard of (a small number of) people doing this... mostly fire blasters (best AoE) running around in hazard zones, throwing a couple of AoE attacks and running. If someone finishes that mob before within two minutes they get a portion of the XP.

It's kinda high work and IMO the risk isn't that low and the reward not that high IMO. I guess it depends where you are and your playstyle.

On the streets of Perez it wouldn't be so hard, but in some other hazard zones (Hollows) I find it harder to get away from mobs, so the danger isn't that much less. You only get a small part of the XP and that's if someone else comes along and decides to take that group out (and in higher level zones I think you're likely to have more players who won't fight villains with partial damage because they could be a runner who's returned to the spawn location, with the hero off on another runner's escape route).

I've gone and put a thumbtack on the map when I died a few times and did find the same group there most times, if I got there quick enough.

I've also gotten XP when others have taken care of your mob, however that only happens if I'm out of the hospital when the kill takes place. Being in the hospital seems to be treated like you're in a different zone from those bad guys.

By the way, I mentioned this last night in-game, Cryptic is having a City of Heroes costume contest .

Oh, how I wish I had the bod to go out as The 4th of July Kid

Yeah, I think you should get partial XP for things that get zapped by the police drone.

Then again maybe that's to prevent players from taking on dangerous foes and leading them to the drone to get partial XP, (better partial XP than full XP from a smaller foe)?

BTW, am I the only one that has a hard time getting out of the hospital? Most of the time I click on the elevator doors I get such a long pause before an elevator comes.

That's been happening to me a lot more recently as well. It seems you have to be in a certain spot exactly the right distance from the door (either elevator or front door) before it will open. Otherwise it just freezes up and eventually you can try again.

I've also noticed I seem to be exiting the elevator on the ground floor facing back to the elevator rather than forward a lot more too.

I've noticed both of those as well as having a harder time with the tram doors when clicking on them.

BTW, I've filed a couple bug reports about the in-mission doors that we started seeing in update 2. In two cases I've seen villains jump through these closed doors. In one case it was a glass door, so I could see it being a line-of-sight thing, but the other was a rolldown metal door. I have no idea how to realistically explain that.

Not sure whether or not to be proud of this but Condo just received the Tough badge, awarded for enduring more than one hundred thousand points of damage

Have you gotten a response? I've heard lots of people complaining that since issue #2, the response from the GMs has been abysmal.

Ouch!

I wonder if Garth will get a special badge for the number of deaths he's had?

There are three badges that are awarded either for dying X number of times or making up x points of debt.

I've sent bug reports and petitions and in both cases the response has been slow and frequently consisted of "We tried to help but you were offline at the time." I think most of them have taken care of themselves... in one case I had a problem where I couldn't get into my mission. I sent a petition and it wasn't a problem anymore once I logged in again.

Ah, it's the Unwavering, Unyielding and Unbroken Spirit badges.