Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Early Solit for LSH #12 - Spoilers?

as a true newbie, never collected LSH until now, I am always amazed by the longing for past characters, attitudes, villians, etc, etc.

however, the one thing that most long-time LSH readers seem to agree on not wanting to see again, are the Snake and the mine working racoons.

was really that bad?

ha ha ha ha

Oh yeah. It was really that bad.

The whole scenario featuring a permenant underclass of servants for the royalty just touched too many raw nerves in fandom. Add the fact that we were never sure if they were an economic underclass or outright slaves to the the fact that they were mammals in apparent servitude to reptiles and you get a really creepy dynamic.

That the mammals were similar to raccoons just got people completely upset at the unintentional (we hope) racial slang reference and none of it really worked out very well.

Regarding the #12 backup story, I found another snippet from Stuart Moore which sheds a little more light on it:

"It was a last-minute addition, so it wasn't in the solicitation. It's a nice little story about the philosophy of the Legion and the romance between Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl."

The bit about it being "a last-minute addition" is mighty curious, considering this is the climax of a year-long arc that has presumably been planned from the very start. Don't you think?

Perhaps the plan changed with Barry's absence over the summer. It looks like the story spills over to issue 13 with the latest solicit.

Maybe we'll get another installment of the letters feature too.

You'll find some additional spoilerish stuff about the Stuart Moore backup stories HERE at rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh, by a poster named Wildcard who receives Moore's e-mail newsletter:

* In the very very late-breaking news department: I've written
back-feature stories for LEGION OF SUPERHEROES #12 & 13. If you don't
remember seeing that information in the solicitations, you didn't --
that's how last-minute this was. I'm a big fan of Mark Waid & Barry
Kitson's LEGION -- hell, I've always loved the Legion -- so this was
a great little assignment.

The first story features Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl, while the
second one focuses on Dream Girl. The two issues wrap up the
exciting first-year storyline, and the back-features stand alone, but
comment subtly on the main action. On sale November 23rd and December
28th, respectively.

Will the second story be told in flashback or at her funeral, or does Dream Girl live??!

Something else else tells me that the first-year story arc spilled over to the 13th issue for a reason other than Barry's absence or WaK having too much material for one issue. Did they have to postpone the ending to wait for something elsewhere in the DCU to happen first? If so, what?

Don't know how I missed this before. I love hearing that Garth and Imra are getting a back up story within the first year. But I just have this gut feeling the one for Nura will be her funeral.

As for the artist, Lashley has worked on Excalibur, WildStorm, JLA, Green Lantern, The Darkness and Rising Stars, among others. I've found some examples of Lashley's work and I think it'll be good as a backup.

Here's a Batman sketch he did in 1999:



Wolverine done for a t-shirt:



Lashley also founded Draxhall Jump Studio which has done work for toy design and animation.

More Draxhall info. Their site appears to be offline but CBR has an online digital version of The Vault from 2003 with the art being done by Lashley.

My prediction: Dream Girl wanders through Metropolis Park, where she encounters Myron Marks, who helps her adjust to life being bald and stuff!

Myron's advice is for her to buy a hat, which ties into Calamity King's introduction in #13 as well!

Brilliant EDE!

Actually I disagree about the funeral. I think the guy would say "second one focuses on Dream Girl's funeral" or "second one focuses on a Legionnaire's funeral" rather than "second one focuses on Dream Girl." That to me sounds like she A.) survived, but is recuperating or B.) a flashback.

I'd think any flashback with her dead in the present would be silly and/or have to have Waid writing it to make any sense. So my money is on A.

The #13 backup story could feature the re-introduction of Proteans and lightning rods...

I'm not happy to hear that anyone other than Mark is writing the Legion. I have nothing in particular against Stuart Moore, but even if the guest writer was *Alan* Moore I would still be annoyed by this news. I hope that there's a good reason for the guest-written stories and that we will soon learn what the reason is.

I have no problem with an occasional guest-written backup if the story is good, I was just curious about the timing. In the first 12 months, Waid will have written the page equivalent of more than 16 standard-sized issues of LSH, even factoring in next month's guest backup, so we can hardly accuse him of slacking off. Chances are he's working on the new "52" series to launch in March, and just needed someone to spot him. It would be nice if we got an official explanation, but I wouldn't really count on it.

Hopefully Moore's contributions will be better than the backup Waid wrote in issue #11, whose appeal completely escapes me.

Diamond Shipping Changes as of 11.11.05 at Newsarama .

Legion of Super-Heroes #12 11/23/05 - 11/30/05

It's going to be late

I've always come to expect the Legion on the last Wednesday of the month so no big deal to me. It just better be worth it.

I need my LSH fix, man!

Even later now. I just checked Diamond's list for next week and the Legion is nowhere to be found. WTF?

And, yes, I checked this week's list too to see if it had been put back on schedule. So does this mean we'll get two issues in December?

Barry, any idea what's up? Everything okay?

I think it's the fact that the 30th list is incomplete until the Monday before it. I think that listing is sans changes such as LSH from the 23rd.

CBG has it on their list as one that is not to ship either according to their sources with the publisher/distributor. I really hope next Monday brings different news but I won't be holding my breath.

Hmmm...I could e-mail Steve Wacker to see if he knows.

just recently checked the list of new comics arriving today on www.dccomics.com and Legion #12 is one of them...did anyone get it?

No. DC never updates their site once they post their upcoming solicitations. Or very rarely does. As it stands right now it may be out next week. Or not. But it definitely did not ship this week.

Crap. And next week they'll say it's late because of the holiday I suppose.

Yay! It's on this week's Diamond Shiping List . Crisis averted! *whew!*

I don't think I could've waited another week.