Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Legion #28 SPOILERS!!

They didn't capture Orion - he boom-tubed out of Cos' field (anyone else surprised how easily Cos held him, BTW?)

You're right. I misinterpreted that panel. I'll edit the original post, so thanks.

I thought Rokk and Imra were acting completely out of character. What the hell? I mean, we all know Kon is impetuous, but did he not possibly save Clark Kent's life by flying ahead and restraining the Dark Servant version of Orion?

And all that "sprock" this and "sprock" that in regard to Kon is completely unprofessional. I see it as the 31st-century equivalent of "f*ck," and I really don't think it's appropriate for Rokk to be using it to mouth off about Kon under these circumstances -- it's not as though Kon has done anything that incompetent (yet).

And Imra's treatment of Jarth... well, couldn't she at least have tried to be somewhat less obviously pandering? Sheesh.

I saw the tributes to Weisinger and Swan -- very nice! I'll have to go back and look for Quislet, though. This was a very quick read, and I want to go through again a few more times before I decide how much I liked the story as a whole.

(The art, though, continued to be top-notch. )

I didn't mind Jazmin handing over leadership to Cos. She wouldn't have been voted leader if not for him and he is a very good leader. Triad would probably do fine also but they're in a VERY hairy situation and Cos is a proven leader.

I also don't think he's out of line with Superboy. Superboy won't listen, he's impetuous and impulsive, he's not being a team player and he can't follow instructions. He keeps rushing ahead and he's not only putting himself in danger but the other Legionnaires as well. From what Cos said, he's leaving Kon behind because of time anomalies and Kon is part of that. I don't doubt that Cos' disappointment of Kon was a factor, but not the only one.

Kon thinks he's all that. If he can't follow the rules and worry about someone other than himself, then he should be left behind.

I do agree about how Garth was treated though. That was totally uncalled for. They should have gotten further in their relationships with him by now if 5 weeks have passed.

I'm loving the Legion.

Merry Christmas

I don't get mine til Friday!!!

but I can't wait!!!!

well we did get our comics a day early in the UK !!! and what a great Christmas present, "LEGION" #28 was !!!!

just loved it !!!!

Matthew.

Would this be a good point to start mentioning the words "Shameless Hussy?"

(I haven't gotten my copy yet.)

Well, I agree that it was probably wise to leave Kon behind, but I think Cos may have been a bit too harsh. Time was, he would have tired to talk to Kon instead of yelling at him. That's how he was portrayed before, trying to talk with his teammates to solve the problem. I don' think we've seen him trying to talk to Kon yet, have we? I'm not sure, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, Rok's constant badgering of Kon was a bit harsh, but dropping him from the team was completely understandable.

Their maneuvers on Apokolips clearly show how they worked in unison to achieve their goal. That wouldn't have been possible if they had to chase after Kon.

Jarth was certainly brushed off as well, but whatever keeps him out of my sight is okay with me.

All in all, I enjoyed the issue. It further established the plot while introducing new considerations without being overwhelming.

On a first quick read I found the issue enjoyable. Makes me want to cry thinking about losing Chris and Chip so soon.

I have to agree that the decision to leave Kon behind was probably wise but Rokk needs an attitude adjustment. And I still do not agree that he should have been put in charge. I would have loved a scene showing when Lu found out about that!

And I may have to join the KP Imra Haters Club is she keeps up her current ways.

Oh, and I think I caught the nod to Quis but I'm not quite sure if it was intentional. He just didn't look quite right to me. But maybe that was the whole idea.

Yeah, if Imra can protect the Progeny (see Legion 5) then she can certainly spare some love for Jarth!

I didn't see Quislet.
Anything to get rid of Superboy is good for me but yeah -Cos is being a bit Jerk-ish.

I could not agree more. I wish the petition idea had taken off.

Oh, well, maybe a 2nd Legion book.....

Well, I suspect that Cos' whole overbearing attitude is going to figure into the denaument for the Foundations story.

We know from the covers to upcoming solicitations that Kon sticks around after this story is through.

My guess is that the "Clark" version will end up sacraficing himself in some way, proving, apparently, what "true" heroism is, and thus Kon will decide to stick around to try and both honor, and live up to, him.

So, in order for Kon to be built up, the plot requires that Cos first break him down.

PB, I agree with your last statement that Kon's growth towards heroism is being setup by all of Rokk's grousing, but I don't think "Clark" can sacrifice himself -- he still has some growing up to do. Rather I imagine Kon will prove himself by "sacrificing" himself to save young Clark (but of course he'll be spared at the end).

Still, I hope M'on gets back from Kwai soon -- these two knew each other a lot more and there's still the whole "Valor" thing that needs to be settled in relation to this new "Superman religion" or whatever it is...

Hope Cham comes back soon too, from what I remember he and Kon hit it off pretty well the last time Kon came to the 31st century.

Loved the way Wildfire grabbed Shikari to protect her from harm.
Is Dreamer a good hand-to-hand fighter? She was in Pre-boot.
A recall Gear saying he was a non-combatant in the issue with the JLA holos. If that's true, should he have been there with the rest of the team or was he only faking in that ish?

Nura's a top-notch fighter postboot, trained by Khundish warlords.

If Gear truly is non-combat, he should be an honorary member like Chuck.

I think something's gonna happen to Violet, Kon, Jarth and Kid Q back at HQ but I dunno what...

This issue just kinda WAS to me. It neither excited nor disappointed, just kinda served to advance the storyline. Maybe I shouldn't have read the spoilers first, you'd think I'd learn by now. I usually don't read 'em...

Even with Garth in Jan's body the other members are treating him like crap. This is the guy who saved half the stinking teams lives at what he thought would be the cost of his own, but since he looks like Jan they give him the cold shoulder? That is about as shallow as it gets. I just hope sooner or latter we get to see Garth get fed up with all his so called friends and tell them all to go to hell, especialy the women who supposably "loved" him, and quit the team. It's probaly going to come down to them saying that it really is Jan who just thinks he is a Garth. Otherwise his friends and sister are just being crule.
And I can't wait for the point when Superboy finally tells Cos off and tells him to stuff his holier than thou attitude.

As much as I didn't want Clone-El on the team, I'd like to see him bitch-slap Coz too.

...and then maybe they could wrestle a bit.

Oh, don't get me started...!

"I had the same (negative) reaction to Rokk's being made leader. His treatment of Superboy is despicable, as is Imra's treatment of Garth. My impression is that the two "misfits" will be given the opportunity to prove their true mettle before the arc is over. Can someone post the picture of Saturn Girl's rotting corpse from Generations III?"

Another Viewpoint:

Rokk was being bitchy, Imra was being politely dismissing. Are they wrong?

Cos: He's made it quite clear that he's disappointed in this particular Superboy. It's like having your hero appear before you and you realize that the person you put on a
pedestal is only human, not the personification of all that right and good. I understand his viewpoint. I've made the same mistake about several people through the years, but his continual riding of Kon is more of the military viewpoint: Scream at the screw up until he shapes up. I do not adhere to this type of behavior modification, but Kon really is not a team player and this may get him or someone else needlessly killed, therefore, he is a liability at this point.

Rokk has tried everything else, maybe taking Kon out of action, will do the trick. At least he will not be shouting at him in the thick of battle.

Imra: What do you do when the man you love returns in the body of the person who tried to kill you? I've never been down that road, but of all of the Legionnaires, she has given Garth more attention than anyone else. We are all thinking, "What's the problem, it's GARTH. He saved her butt, how can she just push him aside so easily? Her viewpoint: He's still an unknown. Mentally, at this point, he is Garth. What if Jan's mind is there somewhere and she can't detect it? They have no idea how this whole experience has affected Garth's mind. They have no idea to what extent he can control Jan's powers. What if during the battle, Jan's mind surfaces, they have no idea which Jan it would be.
It could very well be that he could have been a creation to keep them distracted from Darkseid's coming.

She and Jenny where not being bitchy. Frankly, Jenny appeared to be more nervous in
his presence than bitchy. They were politely saying that yes, there is a situation, but it's not anything he should worry about. He has bigger problems. Imra did appear cold but like Rokk, she realized that Garth (I can't stand calling him "Jarth"), could be a liability. She separated herself from him to make sure he did not follow or insist on details. She did not want to argue with him in the command room in front of the crowd. She actually handled the situation very diplomatically. At least she didn't scream or shout at him. She was very calm and low key.

I do not believe that either Rokk or Imra were acting out of character. Heck! They are in the middle of a major cosmic disaster and they can only rely on known entities. While they have held back 2 of their most powerful, I suspect that Kon and Garth will act as the cavalry and save the day.

I agree totally Saturn Rings! I usually hate Saturn Girl, but I think that she is perfectly justified in the way she's been treating Jarth. I feel bad for Garth, but to expect to be welcomed back with open arms when there could be any number of villainous things going on is not taking the strangeness of the Legion's situation into account. I just hope that Garth gets his own body back soon.

And the Jenni bashing! No way, man! I think that as soon as Garth is back in a normal body (or proves himself in this body) she won't be nervous about him. Remember that she wasn't there, nor is she a telepath. She got third person accounts that Jan killed Candi and Garth died stopping him. Then Jan comes back and claims he's Garth. Wouldn't you be nervous?

As for Cos, I also think he's being a little mean to Kon. I didn't take Cos's leadership position this issue as a permanent transference of the role. This is a crisis situation, and getting a new leader at that time is not the best. Cos fits the leadership role like a glove. Putting Lu in charge would be a little for the team to get used to, especially first off in a battle. But afterwards, I would assume that Triad would take over. Not that I necessarily believe that she is the actual deputy leader. When was this established?