Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Dr. Gym'll's Cultural Rarities "House of M"

House of M is kind of making me not like Marvel - sort of like how Infinite Crisis is turning off a lot of DC fan (not me). I don't want to see the number of mutants in the world drastically reduced - unless it includes a lot of the X-Men and their allies.

hmmm

i'm not thinking anything will change much i am just enjoying the story for 7 issues.

If they want him to stick around, they'll just forget that bit.

Wow. Gen X sure gets the short end of the stick. Two died, two depowered... although, one of the previously dead was seen alive again so you never quite know there. I think M will be fine since she's slated to be in X-Factor but I sort of hope Paige is depowered too. I mean, they may as well do that to the only one from the series that I really don't like.

But, ack. I'm not a fan here. Jubilee's been a mutant longer than most of those listed. And, argh!! I really like the New Mutants. I don't want to see Dani, Shan and Amara depowered. Well, I wouldn't mind Amara that much since she's been contributing nothing for some time now but still. Ew. I mean, could someone explain why X-23 is still powered up but the rest are being shite on? She's newer than most.

Excuse me, while I wonder exactly why I've invested so much time and money into this franchise if they're just going to get rid of a ton of my favorites. That's not to say that I'm displeased that they're driving down the number of mutants, since it's statistically impossible for a genetic mutation to be so prevalent in a population in such a short amount of time. But, this is dumb.

Seriously. Dumb.

How does "198" constitute a "real minority"? A real minority would be millions - at least.

right. it would be.

quesada is on crack.

this is just another example of a human hating mutants.

LOL, db.

I've read elsewhere (can't remember where right now) that 198 isn't a reference to the number of mutants that will be left.

Is 198 just the number of comics that Wolverine is in?

WHAT?!?

It's not her fault, she's a great character...if they take away Amara, like they did my Jean, who will I have left...

You know what Marvel's problem is, they hired Grant Morrison, if those fools had never let that moronic ape touch his banana smushed fingers on X-Men, then I (a devoted MU reader, who now won't touch a title because of him) would still be reading the comic and Jean Grey would still be here and she wouldn't have had to repeat the same storyline that she DID IN THE 70'S BECAUSE THAT IDIOT LACKS CREATIVE JUICES!!!

at least emma frosts diamond skin has been ignored in the house of m. as has the beasts cat form. and professor x hasn't shot anyone in the head yet. that wuld be funny if thats how he dealt with wanda...bang! problem solved kids. back to the mansion.

joss wheden seems to be dealing with some of these changes in astonishing x-men....i kinda wish he would just ignore them though.

Bah to all of you. Morrison X-Men was the only good thing to happen to X-Men since Scott, Jean, et al rejoined the team from X-Factor.

Now we're back to X-Men driven by a bunch of guys who want to relive Claremont Uncanny X-Men. If I'm ever subjected to another story with either Mojo or the Savage Land, I'll... I'lll. I'll blow a fuse in my brain ... or something.

I echo the Mojo sentiment. No more Mojo is a good thing.

By 'real minority', I assume Quesada referred to the notion that every other Claremonet story in the last ten years has shown a mutant community, mutant city, mutant biker gang, mutant agency, mutant country, mutant alternate universe, mutant rock n' roll band, mutant street gang, mutant...you get what I mean. Just the notion that there are mutants everywhere, that one in every six is a mutant, etc. will be taken away, which I think is a good thing.

And of course a real minority would be in the millions, but that's not what Quesada was trying to imply.

Yeah, but 250-300 mutants ("A-list plus the 198") worldwide is too few by far.

And I echo the Mojo/SL point, but most assiduously NOT the Morrison point

....i am not pro savage land nor am i pro mojo-verse....by any stretch of the imagi nation.

I'm thinking the 198 isn't about the total mutant population. I will be glad to see it pared down some, tho'.

Didn't Joe Q hire Morrison? Wasn't he the guy promoting Grant's run, talking about what a great boon to Marvel it was to get the man writing the X-universe? He also brought Claremont back to the X-men, editor in chiefed all those tales. He oversaw the boon of mutantdom. He orchestrated it.

And yeah, some of the depowered folks will be back in 3-5 years.

I think 198 may refer to either the number of known mutants or the total number of mutants registered with Xavier's school over its entire history.

I believe it actually refers to the number of books Wolverine will be starring in next year.

Apparently, the official line, I think, is that bringing the Xtitles back to a state where they have to face persecution without the support of greater numbers and effective organization (mutant schools, mutant towns, mutant hotlines, etc.), makes a better venue for more creative and entertaining stories. Personally, I think it depends more on who handles the reins on this than on a return to a former status quo. A crappy story in a more "creative world" is still a crappy story, right?

I believe a natural evolution of any persecuted minority is to organize. Despite my own wariness towards Grant Morrison (although WE3 rocks!!!), I felt he understood the implicaitons of this. Perhaps the problem wasn't the number of mutants, but the number of bland mutant stories and not enough "hero/human stories" (a trap even Mr. Morrison fell into, but slightly recovered with "Here Comes Tomorrow"). Ah well, as long as Joss Whedon continues to deliver... Hmmm I wonder how he'd handle LSH? Sign up for that!

That's a very interesting point.

I think a lot also hinges on whether or not everybody remembers what the world was like with mutants in control, and whether that sparks more anti-mutant persecution.

Of course, Marvel Earth has been through a lot before this, and people just tended to go about their normal lives afterwards.

And here we have the House of M Part 2 from that Gardner boy. Tee hee. Wish it wasn't a TBC tho...

No spoilers, really, except maybe for the first issue of HoM, in case anyone actually cares. It's mostly just fun to listen to Pietro talk.

Judging from Hulk #87 and Cable/Deadpool #18, most people won't remember.

i'm only half way through the issue and i'm terribly upset.....

Hasn't House of M finished up yet? Seems like issue #7 came out ages ago.