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#510281 12/16/08 07:00 PM
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oh one more thing...

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One thing I'm really liking about this super-crossover is that Supergirl is being written very well. How refreshing! That alone is enough to make me happy, and I hope its something that continues.

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XD!! A freakin men Cobbie, I definately agree with ya there. However..New Krypton being purely made of Ice? Funky, I hope they get some trees there XD...Tho' burn for supes. also veryvery, I sure hope so!

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Nightcrawler wrote:

"This has got to be the most ridiculous throwaway line I've ever heard and more crappy, unnecessary revisionism. Why couldn't those planets be populated within a thousand years? Why do they have to exist already?

Cosmic Boy even met his Earth human predecessor in the 20th century in his mini-series after the Crisis.

I'm so sick of DC's bad writing and editorial staffs."

*ahem*...the explanation is...Superboy Punches!

(Gary, this wasn't me being a smartass with you. wink We all love the legion and it isn't worth getting your bloodpressure up.)

Everyone makes mistakes. There were letter columns full of readers pointing out mistakes back in the olden days. The are going to happen. Don't think i am excusing the editors or writers. God knows i have taken them to task before, but we all know that after Infinite Crisis, things that were...weren't. And things that weren't...were.

We've all seen things that contradicted since the crisis, heck, since the original crisis. These days, it just goes with being a reader of comics.

I'm so burned out on it...i don't care anymore.


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#510285 01/24/09 08:20 PM
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Wouldn't aliens look...alien? I doubt that evolution will always create anglo-saxons on every planet. (I'd rather read a story about how Kryptonians, etc. are descended through a time warp or something from Earth!)

Humans are diverse on Earth not because Europeans or North Americans popped out of the Earth whole. Poof! There's a human! They migrated from a central point in Africa and evolved different characteristics.
Humans exist on Earth because the specific set of conditions needed for survival exist. There's an actual equation to determine similar qualities throughout the known universe. Any planet with an existing set of similar conditions will eventually develop humanoid life. The species evolve to adapt to the environment, and if the environment is Earth like, than so would the life forms.

But I do like the idea of the Legion UP being made up of Earth colonies (with the occasional Durla, Tamaran, Rann, Thanagar, Khund, Korugar, et al. connections.)


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#510286 01/24/09 08:57 PM
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Humans exist on Earth because the specific set of conditions needed for survival exist. There's an actual equation to determine similar qualities throughout the known universe. Any planet with an existing set of similar conditions will eventually develop humanoid life. The species evolve to adapt to the environment, and if the environment is Earth like, than so would the life forms.
Right. And that's a great way to explain Thanagar, Krypton, Daxam, etc., but unnecessary and pointless to explain Braal, Winath, etc.

It shows me a lack of imagination in a creative team to have all 30th century civilizations come from a central point & place in time. And it's just another symptom of why DC is letting me down in the last several years.

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Any planet with an existing set of similar conditions will eventually develop humanoid life.
Unless one tiny thing happens differently, and the dinosaurs survive and the largest mammals are rats.

Or the DNA helix spins left instead of right, which it might randomly do.

Or some avian species evolves intelligence before apes do.

Or one of the *dozen* redundant *accidental* features of the human body leftover from previous creatures (five toes, pinna of the ear, body hair, tailbone, etc.) doesn't also miraculously accidentally appear on the alien humanoids, leaving them two-legged and two-armed, but with a soft furry coat and third eyelids, or swivelable ears, or a forked tongue that flicks into their vonomerasal organ.

The humanoid form is not magic. It's one of a hundred possible configurations that can use language and make tools. Humanity is a fluke, and 90% of our genes are 'junk' that are left over from dead ends and false starts. That's 9 chances out of 10 that we could have looked radically different, but just happened to end up looking like this. Evolution isn't perfect. If it was, I wouldn't have had to have my wisdom teeth taken out, and nobody would ever get lower back pain from the completely-in-the-way tailbone we have to anchor the tail that we don't have, and nobody would get sinus headaches from inflammation in the cavity in our skull that detects pheremones so that we can tell when females are in heat, but don't use, because human females don't go into heat, so it's just a big cavity that fills with germs and gets infected for no good reason. For aliens to evolve *exactly* like humans isn't only unlikely, it's kinda ridiculously unlikely. In sci-fi television and movies, humanoid aliens are the rule, because it's darn hard to find non-humanoid actors (and CGI still hasn't made it to the point where the alien doesn't look terribly fake). Comic books have no such excuse. If an alien is supposed to not be from an earth colony, then it should look like Tellus or Gates or something.

Even then, why the heck would Braalians, Winathians, Titanians, etc. all be caucasians? What are the odds that the vast majority of humanoid 'aliens' happen to look like white guys, and, up until threeboot Thom Kallor, the only black people were Earthers like Jacques and Tyroc?

Naw. I don't care what Geoff Johns says. This parallel human evolution nonsense goes right there with 'Wildfire is Red Tornado' on my list of 'crap he pulled from his butt that I'm gonna ignore.'


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#510288 01/25/09 02:44 PM
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If there were 9 chances out of 10 that a species within Earth's history and environment could have looked drastically different, then we should see that species operating on nearly the same level.

If it's a Darwinist approach we're taking, those others had their chance and weren't up to the task.

Not everything can pitch a tent in Alaska and sip umbrella drinks on a beach in the Bahamas on the same day and survive. In fact, only one species has shown ANY promise in that regard and at least to this time, we are it baby!

Now I'm not disregarding the cockroaches just yet but my selective choice of present evidence shows their ascendance would be more due to our developed ability to destroy ourselves then their ability to whoop us and our cans of RAID.

Now then, CHANGE the environment even a small somewhat and sure, something resembling people with wings might sprout but chaos being what it is, I'd be more inclined to believe that the dominant species would be radically different and that anything similar to us within that environment, migrated from us.

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Cosmic Boy even met his Earth human predecessor in the 20th century in his mini-series after the Crisis.
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[b]Cosmic Boy even met his Earth human predecessor in the 20th century in his mini-series after the Crisis.
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Some ten years later, Valor would battle Krinn, a warrior he liberated from the Dominion, whose people already had magnetic powers, in one of the last issues of his title.


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#510291 03/11/09 09:35 PM
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"Puzzle from Planet X" in Strange Adventures #72 (September 1956) -

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I'd like Polar Boy even more than I already do if he looked like those red-skinned Tharrians!


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