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<span style="font-size: 84px;">GAH!</span>

uhoh

What CJ Said.

I have three characters I love at Marvel. They've killed one and brought him back (cheapening his sacrifice - and I do feel the same about Barry over at DC). At least Colossus is back.

Spider Man is not the same character I grew up loving. He would never make a deal with a devil to achieve his ends. Never.

And now the X-Mens latest casualty.

With this latest character to be killed. I have no reason to read Marvel.

That's how I feel about both Janet Van Dyne and Ralph Dibny..,

I was in shock when I read that book.. how could they do it?? He was the only reason I picked up an X-Book in the first place!!!

I can't believe they would kill this character! I'm sure a certain poster of utmost to this board can't either. I think it disrespects a certain departed creator's legacy, as well.

However, I will say that the odds of this death sticking forever are incredibly low. Death at the Big Two is about as permanent as the ever-changing tax laws, if not even less so.

In any case I guess it's somewhat of a mercy killing given how the X-books have sucked for such a long time. If he's gone for awhile, at least the character won't continue to suffer from the poor writing and bad directions like the rest of the X-Men I grew up loving.

wtf. the only one that was still an x-man basically. which i', surprised they killed him cause he was the only other half of the debate on cyclops' misguided direction he was taking the team. now i feel like he got so much air time cause he was going to die. where the hell's storm. she's gonna be upset.

i'm so upset i may drop the x books. and i'm more of an x fan than a legion fan!

now i say kill em all. go bastion!

Since I'm not enjoying any of the X-books these days anyway, I checked the spoilers. I'm not all that surprised. My expectations for the X-comics these days are so low that this fits with their recent performance.

If anything, I'm with Lardy: I don't take this seriously as a long lasting death and am almost glad it removes him from the table for awhile while the X-books further fall into suckiness for the next few years. I'm about as emotionally charged as I was when Martian Manhunter died in Final Crisis: a big "yeah, right". A stupid editorially decision that will eventually be undone. The over/under is 2015. I say under.

On the other hand, I find the X-Books so unenjoyable that I'm kind of with Power Boy: let's see some wholesale slaughter. Starting with Cyke and Emma.

The X-Books have sucked for a long time. This is like post 77 on the non-existent LW thread entitled "101 Reasons not to buy an X-Men comic these days".

I thought I'd give this whole 'second coming' thing a try.. and over all, i've just been incredibly shocked over all the needless death.. Is this what the X-books are about now?

Who else died? Go ahead and spoil. I have the issues in my stack waiting but I'd rather get spoiled on LW than read them right now.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Nightcrawler, Ariel... also several members of X-Factor appear to have died as well... including Longshot and the Multiple Man guy..</span></span>

WTF?!?!

I doubt Madrox is really dead. But the other X-Factor one is surprising.

They were hired by The Absorbing Man to follow Titania to see if she was cheating.. they were all in a car and slaughtered by one of those Mutant hating groups. They made a point of showing that Madrox wasn't a duplicate.. and they checked the bodies.

Could be a ruse, I suppose.. but it looked pretty convincing.

Here's the newsarama link on Nightcrawler

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/nightcrawler-history-100429.html

Longshot was very specifically instructed to 'handle the money' (and presumably use his powers to backtrack where Creel got it, and anticipate the ambush), which means I'm expecting that;

A) What we saw at the end was some sort of flash that Longshot was having of the enemy's plans, since they mapped them all out at the beginning of the book in scenarios like this.

B) Madrox, etc. are using some other technique to trick the bad-guys. (Normally, I'd pick Monet's telepathy, since she can plant false scenarios in people's heads, but she's busy off-screen dealing with another situation.)

The Madrox, Rictor and Longshot getting ganked scene *has* to be fake. Longshot just doesn't get shot.


But I do agree that the death of older X-Men doesn't mean as much to me as it used to. Cyclops has been dead at least once, Colossus as well, Jean a couple of times, Wolverine at least once, Bobby once, Psylocke twice, I think, etc.

Given the crap they've put some of those characters through, a couple years in the ground might freshen them up. (Spawn of Azazel, anyone? Chuck Austen is the debil!)

Cyke and Emma have been two of my favorite X-characters, in the last decade, but they've been trashed over the last year or two that even *I* want them dead!

I had heard the X-Factor deaths were a bit of a ruse.

I've never been one to let the death of a favourite (in Nightcrawler's case, quite possibly the favourite) character deter me from reading a title. But a number of favourites? That might do the trick.

X-Factor is the only X-title I'm reading these days, and while the interactions between Guido, Monet, Rictor and Shatterstar are entertaining (Siryn and Darwin, not so much), I'd probably dump it from my pull list if Madrox was removed from the book.

But that seems very unlikely to happen, since PAD clearly prefers the character and has pretty much built the team around him.

Classic Nightcrawler, all swashbuckling and fun, was always a favorite, but he's been effectively dead for a decade or more anyway, so I'm not feeling the actual death of the character. The Kurt I cared about was long gone, anyway.

I'm in tears!!

I did this as a homage to Nightcrawler,A DC version of the character Brimstone,Son of the Demon Etrigan.

I just finished reading X-Men Origins: Emma Frost. Now, I've never been an Emma fan, and I probably would not have bothered, and definitely would not have bought it, if it hadn't been written by famed blogger Valerie D'Orazio. But I was eager to see if she could write fiction as good as she can write about real life.

It's not perfect, due to artwork that is mediocre at best and downright ugly at worst, but I feel I still got my money's worth. Emma for the first time seems three-dimensional and sympathetic. Valerie knows more than a little something about growing up a misfit with daddy issues, and she brings her perceptions to the printed page quite gracefully.

I'm going to drop X-Men: Legacy, even though I love Rogue (she's one of my favorite female superheroes anyone, ever). I just can't figure out why I'm still buying it anymore.

Plus, I hear a lot of the younger mutants who essentially replaced the young mutants from the "New Mutants" tsunami relaunch a years back are showing up, and I'm still bitter about that.

I can barely sit through an interview on what's going on in the X-verse these days, let alone read the stories, so I'm not really sure what is going on in the upcoming months. I think there's a new X-Men #1 coming out (damned if I know who is writing & drawing it though). I'll replace Legacy with that for a little bit but if that's awful too, I'll drop it.

X-Force is still a definite 'no'.

X-Force was <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">bloodshed and carnage </span></span>

and some not so bright leadership by cyclops and crew.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">sending x-force into the Nimrod future via cable's time travel device? they can't similarly enhance it to teleport everyone out of the city, or one person to go back in time and warn them, or prevent illyana from being captured, or send for help to bring the avengers inside .... or open a portal to get help from some future where mutants are rampant and have defeated the sentinels? I'm just saying jeffries, beast and the x-club are pretty smart and if they can enhance his device to send a team, they can figure out some other way to use it to flee or get help rather than sending x-force into the lion's den </span></span>

Turns out it was <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Darwin projecting illusions. which i'm not sure should exactly be within his power class. </span></span>

last i saw him he was on the X-Men island. oh well. i just flipped through the issue at the store, didn't purchase it so i don't know more than that.

i hope no one was a fan of hellion either. i was. <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">he's handless now. maybe he will get some cyborg arms like his girlfriend. (jolt?)</span></span>

Heads up:

I don't read X-Men Forever, but X-Men Forever Giant Size #1 features Marvel's LSH analogs, the Imperial Guard, as drawn by classic LSH artist MIKE GRELL!

Will buy tomorrow and review this weekend.