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I'm enjoying Justice League Dark more than ever. The introduction of Steve Trevor gives the book a connection to the Justice League proper. Faust is a great adversary for the team. The reintroduction of Timothy Hunter warms my heart. It has snappy dialogue and the art never disappoints. All that, and a traitor revealed...

I really do enjoy Lemire's writing and how he's been pulling so much from Vertigo.

Yea, the latest JLDark issues have been quite good! Steve Trevor is really fantastic here, cementing himself as the top breakout star in the DCnU. But beyond that, the entire cast is great. Constantine, Deadman and Zatanna are great, and Dr. Mist and Black Orchid are getting nicely complex roles. I like what I'm seeing with Tim Hunter so far.

Meanwhile, the main JLA title is becoming more and more pedestrian, lacking in any substance. It's classic Johns in all the worst ways: snapshots and forced iconic moments rather than any real character or story. The Shazam back-up actually reads really well considering how low expectations are after the JLA story.

I ... almost ... started buying the JLA just for those Shazam back stories ...

but I said "NO, I SHALL WAIT FOR THE TPB!"

So the big news is that Supes and Wonder Woman are now an item as of JL #12. Think there'll be a scene a la Catwoman #1 between the two of them?

no doubt. bwahahaha. I'm not sure if I'm being sarcastic given comics these days and DC's stunts!

Maybe they'll heavily imply they did it doggie style? Nah, Diana would be on top, right?

We've seen them kiss like a million times over the decades. If they want to make this original, it's time for a lasso / rocketship fetish sequence.

"krypto taught me this!"

Point being......if Batman and Catwoman can have a nasty, fairly explicit sex scene then so, by damn, should Supes and WW!

So.....in all seriousness, what do you guys think about Superman/Wonder Woman being a matter of actual fact starting in #12?

For me it's kinda meh. They allude to this every few years.

I do realize that this time it'll actually be a real relationship. But I guess...I don't really know this Supes and WW. So it doesn't really mean all that much to me. It just makes the DCnU more and more like an Elseworlds.

Yeah, and it certainly feels like a stunt. On the plus side, though, it's not a negative stunt necessarily...like Marvel's constant temporary death stunts. (Pretty sure AvX is gonna end with yet another one. This time, the early buzz is that it'll be Professor X. *groan*)

Actually, it'll probably be Cyclops. Regardless, it'll be terrible.

But yeah, it feels like a stunt. Cheap.

I'm still totally on board with both Justice League and Justice League Dark.

I haven't been disappointed yet by the artwork in Justice League Dark, and issue #12 was no exception. The background information on Dr. Mist this issue was helpful. I love the way the House of Mystery is being used. Black Orchid's developing personality is a fun one.

Much has been made of the Superman and Wonder Woman kiss in Justice League #12. This isn't new territory, but the modern PR machines do wonders at generating buzz over comic book storylines similar to what we fans have seen before. I liked the way it was handled here. Johns took the time to give Diana room to express her feelings to both Steve and Superman. It all felt pretty natural to me. We continue to get more insight into Wonder Woman's background in Justice League than we do her own book. The previews for 2013 certainly have my attention!

One thing that bothers me: Wonder Woman was *18* when she came to man's world and is clearly kinda naive about relationships. I know she's "Wonder Woman" and all, but if Trevor's old enough to be a colonel, then that feels a bit skeezy to me.

Although her crack at Hal in issue 11 certainly makes it seem she's not that naive!

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WW and Hal beating each other up.

Hal: You've been dying for this, haven't you?"

WW: This isn't giving me any pleasure. But I'm sure you've heard that before."

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Oooooooooooooooooh!

So, recent news on another JLA about to be formed. All I can say is - that's an... interesting lineup.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/26/catwoman-martian-manhunter-form-new-justice-league-of-america

Doctor Mist! Formerly of the Global Guardians? I might have to pick this up, as he's one of my forgotten favorites!

Kinda, sorta. There is no mention of the Global Guardians. He's a government operative working with Steve Trevor's team. If he's an old favorite, you may not like the developments of the past few issues.


<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Dr. Mist becomes a traitor and reveals that he is working with Faust. The background information gives a compelling reason for his betrayal of the team. </span></span>

Ew. Pass on the new Dr. Mist, then.

The new JLA sub-chapter looks odd. Hawkman, Green Arrow, Catwoman, Katana and Steve-Trevor-with-guns are very 'street-level,' Vibe is just, ugh, Vibe (200 quatloo says he's killed off in an 'ironic' way for the lulz), and the Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern-flavor-of-the-month and Geoff-John's-imaginary-girlfriend-Stargirl seem like they would belong on another team entirely, power-wise.

Catwoman seems an odd fit, of all the possible Bat-adjacent folk that could show up on a JLA team, and the only part of that that intrigues me is that she's meeting up with Katana, and making a Birds of Prey connection, since she and the Birds of Prey seem like they'd make an interesting fit (as allies, rivals and / or foes, depending on the situation).

It almost feels like an Avengers the Movie line-up. Some super heavy hitters (Thor, Iron Man, Hulk / Manhunter, Green Lantern), Malcolm in the Middle (Captain America / Vibe, Stargirl) and some SHIELD agents with guns or whatever (Black Widow, Hawkeye / Katana, Catwoman, Trevor, Green Arrow, Hawkman).

Yeah, he's not our Dr. Mist

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">He's a flunky of Faust no less. </span></span>

and that JLA looks like Dark Avengers ... or something ...


edgy edgy edgy ... its been done.

<------ so bitter.

Uh, set...Stargirl was patterned after Geoffs sister who passed away at a rather young age:

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/050904-BestShots.html

"On July 17, 1996, Courtney Johns was aboard the ill-fated TWA Flight 800. Three years later, her brother, Geoff would immortalize her as Courtney Whitmore, the new Star Spangled Kid."

That's why he has such an affinity for the character.

Regarding Dr. Mist:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">He is presented as being more powerful than I recall seeing him presnted before. His betrayal is explained well and quickly - say as opposed to Comet Queen's betrayal in recent Legion issues. Mist is given a back story in which the reason that he first pursued mystic powers was in order revive his dead love. The current storyline has several characters and groups competing to gain access to the Books of Magic. Mists' motivation is to use one of the books to revive his lost love. </span></span>

Wow Dev - I never knew that. Almost makes me cry. That's really sweet. I liked Star Girl in JSA and have to imagine that Johns will continue to characterize her that way considering... (the fact that her costume is the same indicates as much)

Can't say much for Vibe though. We've seen two images of him so far and he's on his knees both times in a less than heroic way. If Johns wanted to impress us with him, that's two strikes...(maybe instead of break-dancing, he'll krunk)

I'm not in any way excited about JLoA. The main JL title has been a bit of a snoozefest, to be honest. It reminds me of the previous relaunch with Meltzer and Benes - a lot of hype without much substance.