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There's actually three covers Bevis. This one (Turner) is the 1 in 10 limited edition cover. The other two are each 45% of the total amount shipped. They are the two halves of the Ed Benes group shot thaat's been floating around since he was announced as the artist for JLofA.

I'm not much of a Turner fan either so I'll be getting one or maybe both of the Benes covers. Curse them for not doing a nice gatefold of that group shot. DC marketing has their hand in my wallet and is counting out an additional 4$.

Woo thats an ugly cover

Whew! I'll be very happy not to waste my money on that crappy cover.

Unfortunately his covers become the "standard" edition with number 2. So you'll have to shell out the bucks to avoid them starting next month.

WOW! I LOVE that line-up! (Well, nearly.)

Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman were givens so no surprises at their inclusion.

Nice to see Hal Jordan's star continue to shine at DC and something does just feel "right" about having him there, but part of me would've liked to see John make the cut instead. He needs more exposure. Still, looking forward to reading some more Hal.

Vixen, Black Lightning, Black Canary, Red Tornado and Roy Harper (as Red Arrow)?

<span style="font-size: 20px;">OH MY GOD! YES!</span>

They are all members of my ULTIMATE League! LOVE 'em all! Cannot wait to see their interactions!

The only member I'm not happy with is Hawkgirl. I was a BIG fan of the pre-Crisis JLA member Shayera Hol/Shiera Hall and really hate the way she has been given the shaft at every turn since the whole Hawk mess began. And I'm afraid Kendra is just no substitute. She bored me to tears in JSA but I could at least handle her there. I really, really, REALLY don't think she deserves to be in the JLA though so unless Meltzer works some magic on her (like say, killing off the Kendra side of her identity and bringing out the Shiera Hall side that's meant to be lying dormant in her more, and dying her hair red) then I'm always gonna be of the opinion that this was ALMOST the perfect line-up.

Still, almost aint bad!

I know some people on here don't like Meltzer but I thought Identity Crisis was one of the best comic stories I've read in the last few years (though it did have a bit of a let-down ending). And his Archers Quest in Green Arrow was phenomenally good. I have no doubt that his JLA is going to be one we'll be talking about for a very long time.

SOOOOOooo looking forward to Wednesday!

The only one I could do without is Hawkgirl. There's just a lot of other female characters who would have been a better choice, IMHO.

Glad to see Dinah in--I just hope that doesn't mean she has to leave BoP. She's the main reason I buy that book, and if the Big 3 and GL can be in the JLA and their own books, why can't Dinah be in two books?

I've never been much of a fan of archer superheroes, but Roy has lots of history with the DCU, so I'm not too bummed about him being in. Think it's great to see Red Tornado back in action, and it's REALLY great to see Black Lightning's new look. I think it'll be really interesting to see him interact with some of the other guys.

I am just now sure about the female character lineup. I know they each have their own powers, but all four of them are primarily "fighters"...I would have rather seen Zatanna or Starfire.

All in all, a good line up. But I will agree that cover is HIDEOUS. I totally don't get the Michael Turner love.

Okay I have to say something nice before I say something Critical.

What the? BLACK LIGHTNING!?!?! Finally. Respect. And... Vixen? WHAT WHAT WHAT?!?!
Dinah Made the cut! Brilliant! Kendra. Fancy.

Okay Im going to say something critical.

Mike Turner draws aweful covers. All the Time. Icky.
Hal "Whitebread" Jordan. Well thats neither good nor bad. But then I'm a Kyle Rayner fella myself.
Roy. Hmmm. This can go either way, but I am willing to love it.

*meekly* ummm, i like the cover...

And the lineup is HOT!

Can't wait-- Benes draws the hottest superheroes!!

Love Black Lightning, hope they do the character justice (pardon the pun). Canary, Tornado, Hawkgirl, yes, hello!!! Roy should prove interesting, a source of friction, maybe. Hal was a mediocre choice. Kyle, or better yet John, would have been more fun, IMHO. Vixen? Never cared for her and don't really see her appeal. (Maybe someone could explain it to me slowly. I catch on quicker that way.)
This grouping is so well-rounded and thought out that the omission of some of my favs seems trivial now. Can wait to see what in store for Reddy and the rest!

The revised Ed Benes covers are available over at the Comic Bloc forums. There are a number of changes to the original drawing that we saw way back when.

Looks like the book is no longer on the Legion AR list. Not if those are the published versions of the cover.

Those covers make up my dream line-up (sort of). Too bad they don't use a Justice League Unlimited approach to the series.

The only ones I want to add are Plastic Man, Aquaman (Arthur Curry), Atom (Ray Palmer), Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Phantom Lady (Sandra Knight), & Nightshade. Yeah, I know some are dead or whatever, but I would have put them in.

Please note the removal of Booster from that lineup......

!@#$!@#%#!@#%!@#%!@%

Seriously though, it's an interesting lineup but the two people I have beefs with are Kendra and Dinah, mainly because I enjoy the team books they are currently in.

And I hope Roy doesn't take the name I suspect he will....sounds lame to me.

Jamie

I don't think there's anything they can do at this point that will satisfy Tony Isabella, who has already expressed dissatisfaction with the character's look.

Outside of Red Tornado, I'm not really impressed with the lineup. The proof will be in the stories themselves, I guess.

Interesting to note that this isn't the final line-up, if what the Wizard guy said in the thread is accurate.

So here are the changes, if someone pretty please could post a before and after that would be awesome.Onto the changes....

Left to Right, Orginal to Replacement/Change
Top
Animal Man -Batwoman
Fire in coustome - now flame on
Roy 'Arsenal' -Nighwing
Kyle GL - 'Ion'ed Up
Guy Gardner- moved
Garth 'Tempest'-Mr Teriffic
Adam Strange-Hourman
Karate Kid-gone
The Question- Martian Manhunter

Middle
Aquaman - Guy Gardner
Black Lighting- John Stewart
Booster-Big Barda
Red Torando- Flash
Elongated Man-Green Arrow

Front
Green Arrow- Roy 'Red Arrow'?
Flash- Red Torando
John Stewart- Black Lighting

Missing/Gone
Animal Man - say he isn't dead, but what they said in #1 of JLofA, arghhhhh.
Karate Kid
Question
Adam Strange - same as Animal Man
Atom
Elongated Man
Tempest

For all the Legion AR completest, there is a mention of a Legion flight ring in this issue when the Big 3 are discussing Red Tornado.

Read through it last night and I enjoyed it. I don't think this is going to end well for Reddy but it's a strong start, IMO.

The only thing that bugged was something that bugged me when this was previewed. The big three don't want anyone else involved putting back the JLA because they broke it. Guys, that arrogant attitude is what broke it....

Jamie

Interesting that Power Girl isn't in the image that was posted. And it didn't seem like they were going to vote in Vixen. Maybe the Big3 don't exactly get their way when things shake out?

RE: Animal Man, we know from Teen Titans that the space heroes haven't made it back yet, OYL, so it seems like there's still hope for him.

Was anyone else disappointed about paying an extra dollar for a shameless plug to buy Meltzer's book? I was excited about an extra length #1 but ended up totally turned off.

It was 38 pages of story (48 page comic) along with the Meltzer book chapter. $4 is the going price for this format as we saw in the annuals and the upcoming Mystery in Space, tales of the Unexpected so you didn't pay a dollar for the insert. The only people that paid for that are the comic stores who were charged extra weight on freight.

As for the cross-promotion I haven't read any of Meltzer's novels and didn't read it. Not a fan of the genre but its good that Warner is cross promoting its business units. I'll bet the DC gets more benefit from these things than the other units.

Okay, I guess it actually was an extra length story. I was just looking forward to more JLA with all the left over pages and just deflated when I saw what they were.

I really like the handle Meltzer seems to have on VIXEN and RED TORNADO, especially. I look forward to seeing how he handles other characters.

I thought the ARSENAL (RED ARROW?)/Hal Jordan scene was sort of strange.

I also don't like that the big three think of themselves as the big three. I call it stupid that they don't seek the input of somebody like BLACK CANARY, who's been around the hero scene longer than any of them (though not *as* a hero the whole time).

It bugs me that Shayera was killed before this series. She would've been *such* a good fit. Sigh. I suppose there's the prospect of a Kendra/Roy Harper fling to rile up Hawkman and Green Arrow.

I understand folks who disliked IC, the plot points and the ending, but I think Brad Meltzer has a way of writing scenes that really reveal an emotional truth underneath a character or scene. In IC, the scenes surrounding the funeral of Sue still stick out in my mind. I'm hoping for similar scenes in this title.
And, he writes great villains.

I thought the ending sequence that jumped around between scenes was really effective. I like Meltzer's writing style and he's good at characterization. I never had any feelings about Red Tornado so I don't mind the change he undergoes, but I hope it doesn't get undone by story's end.

The one thing I minded is something Meltzer did in "IC" -- having Kathy know Batman's secret identity seems wrong. I know they're retconning the past back to them being all buddy-buddy back in the day, but that seems too much. I can understand Hal and Dinah being loose with their ID's but I would think Batman was more secretive.

Also interesting that the guy Black Lightning was talking to was saying how villains are disappearing from the streets and it's got others spooked. It's almost exactly what Goldbug says in this week's "Heroes for Hire".