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Mystery Lad, I'm afraid you might be wrong about Dani not needing to prove herself. It's obvious Sam doesn't have the same faith in her he used to. Maybe he learned a lesson this issue, but I'm not sure.

Magma in particular isn't getting enough attention. She had that scene with Empath in #1, though, so I suspect Wells has plans for her.

I'm convinced Karma's going to be the hero of the day, so I'm not too upset that she wasn't in this issue.

Dani-love is something we've got in common, Caliente. She was great this issue. And this book needs Rahne, and from what I recall in X-Force, she needs her closest friends. Especially if the rumours about Doug coming back are true. (I didn't count that as a spoiler, 'cause there's really nothing concrete.) You know, if he comes back Rahne will have a love interest in every one of the "secondary" X-teams. Doug here, Ric in X-Factor, and Elixir in X-Force. Not to mention the Asgard guy. That girl gets around.

And poor Dani only has Justin Pierce, who I thought was pretty dull.

i remember magma being really...strong willed or having a much larger personality. she was a bit quite but was always very forceful and strong....i think maybe shes just being written wrong now, unless her character has changed alot? i honestly dont know what shes been doing (she was evil?) well, maybe its better to have her a bit mellow cause dani, illyana, and shan are all coming off rutheless lately.


this book needs rahne...i find it ridiculous that she's busy with some xforce or whatever other book shenanigans..especially cause dosnt x force have wolverine, hepzibah, warpath...and redundant lad!

also...i think the sam / dani relationship is a bit off, they grew up leading a team together...which was more like her leading it, and now he makes some bonehead macho decision to leave her in a cell...

his character has gotten more macho/confident the past few years as an xman but still seems pretty bone headed.

i like the return of funny roberto, after all the leading the hellfire club nonsense, except now hes
a bit busy in the x-men utopia book.

I don't know about Magma being particularly strong willed. A bit arrogant, perhaps, and very aloof and feminine. She was evil for awhile when she thought she was Alison Crestmere, but it's probably best to ignore that.

Hepzibah isn't in X-Force these days. I've got a bad feeling things are going to get worse for Rahne in that book.

Yeah, it was a boneheaded move, but mistakes are what make characters interesting.

'Berto's written well, now if only someone would remember he's black.

so if we are reuninting the new mutants....

who's the next villain from the early days:

donald pierce? emma frost? hellions? demon bear?

i'd love to see the shadow king revisit...

i'm not sure i want warlock in the series, hes so much more powerful than the others now. (well magma and magik might be up there in power level..)


"'Berto's written well, now if only someone would remember he's black." was there a mistake? bertos half black. i wonder if his womanizing ways will come back! hahaha

Nothing says Warlock's around for good. If he's at Magus levels now, I don't know that I want him either.

If you really want to know about the next villain:

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It looks like it'll be the original Hellions and Cypher, with a lot of (possibly off-screen) help from Selene.</span></span>

Wells certainly doesn't seem to be pulling his punches.

There was and interview where Wells said that "New Mutants" would have a whole new meaning by #9.

I've been underwhelmed by the "New New Mutants" so far -- it reminds me of Busiek's Avengers, and that's not a compliment. I was hoping the most recent issue might put Dani in the spotlight and perk up my attention, but it didn't. I don't like false advertising. If the next issue doesn't give us Maximum Dani, I'm gone.

That's too bad. I'm enjoying it, personally. It's nice to see Dani out of teacher mode. I think #4 is mainly going to focus on Shan. Looks like there's going be a huge fight between Dani and Sam in #5.

And really hoping that comment about a new meaning in #9 means Dani's getting some powers back. I think that issue will come out around the time that <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Magneto's returning. He has his powers back; hopefully he'll remember the only student of his that lost her powers on M day.</span></span>

i'm not underwhelmed...but the stories are small so far. which i'm ok with.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">aren't most of the hellions dead. warpth is an xman and empath is in custody?</span></span>

Tarot is around aswell...but she is depowered.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Yep, most of the Hellion's are definitely dead and will be staying that way. This will not, however, stop them from appearing. </span></span>

Apparently, Empath and Amara's story isn't finished yet.

Okay, just read #3 and I think its the best so far. I'm also enjoying the series but I think it could be a little better--not quite "underwhelmed" but hoping things pick up. I think this is gradually happening as Zeb Wells finds his voice with the series.

I was glad to see Dani back and acting badass by the end. She really shined for me here, as did Magik. I didn't really like Sam's decision though and felt he looked bad all issue--so I didn't mind Dani whacking him across the face. I think if it was any other two characters I'd have been annoyed but because of their long friendship and history it felt like the type of fight two longtime friends might have (obviously taken to the extreme of being in situations the New Mutants find themselves in).

Illyiana is also shining for me and I like the final sequence with her ignoring Sam's orders and just going into full-on kick ass mode. She's one of my favorites and I'm loving having her back.

As for Bobby, Shan and Magma, I hope they get some more screen time too but its still early in the series.

Thus far, its been all action without much slowed down character interaction but I guess thats part of the initial method of lauching the series. I'm looking forward to the Legion story being over and the team moving to the next level.

My major complaints are:

(1) I hate Legion as a character and much more interested in seeing Selene and the undead Hellions coming up. Particularly Amara / Empath, which is a story dynamic I've always enjoyed.

(2) Its really time for the New Mutants to have all individual costumes. I hope that happens soon. They could even try to do what the Reboot Legion did and make them unique but with a similar basis; that would be fine.

New Mutants is by no means perfect but compared to all other X-titles right now? Its a step ahead of the game.

I think #5 is titled "The Calm", so I'm guessing there'll be more character interaction then.

Amara's and Bobby's costumes are already slightly different from the others. I think Wells said something somewhere about them not having much time to design costumes before going after Shan and Dani. Pretty sure Dani won't stand for being one of the crowd.

Undead Hellions? Selene? I'm a lot less excited about the 'return' of the Hellions than I was. I thought their return was going to be related to something else entirely.

I guess this means the zombies will ooze back into their graves once the story and their collective use as a plot device is over.

The only thing that might be interesting is if a character thought dead *doesn't* appear as a zombie... meaning that they're still alive, somehow.

My vote goes to Catseye (I'd also choose Doug, but recent cover solicits negate that.)

As for Selene-- I think she's a villainess worth reading about, but her return to New Mutants probably means touching on Magma's Alison Crestmere identity and that whole crapfest with Nova Roma being a con or something.

I hated that.

Well, the zombies are going to be technorganic, which could make things interesting with Doug since he was infected before he died.

I seriously doubt (and hope) they'll say anything more about Alison Crestmere. Oh, and Selene may not be in it, it's not that kind of crossover.

NM #3 was definitely planned as the one which would decide whether I'd get any further issues after feeling so-so about the first two. After reading it, I'd have to agree with Cobester--there was definitely an improvement this issue, enough to make me get at least one more and possibly beyond.

It's hard to nail down exactly what made it click for me. I mean, you could argue it was just one long fight scene. But there were some nice character moments that made it feel like Wells knows what he's doing here.

Obviously, the big deal here was the scene with Sam and Dani. I can see the outrage that would cause, but the scene worked for me. The plot point in which Dani is the only non-powered member and how that makes the others treat her is a worthwhile one to explore. I think it could've been explored further with Ric over in X-Factor but was mostly dropped after the first issue. Dani's obviously very capable, and Sam's misguided need to protect her seemed very true to his old-fashioned personality. He really deserved that sock in the end! Hopefully, next issue, Dani will prove herself to them.

There was one artistic detail I really appreciated that helped me to enjoy the issue that much more. Despite Sam's current hairstyle, the artist remembered that Sam's ears stick out! It's clearly visible on one particular page where Sam's hair is kind of flying about. I always thought Sam's looked a little generic since Liefeld redesigned him, so it's nice to see someone remembered his ears.

I was never really into Legion during the original NM run, but it really seems like Wells is breathing some new life into him. Though I must say one plot point confuses me. It seems like Legion wants to be fixed by the "fixers", yet he wants to kill them. I guess this can easily be chalked up to the MPD, but at the same time it seems all the personalities are working together, though some are coerced. So that confuses me a little. Anyone have a good handle on the motivations here?

So I'm definitely onboard for NM 4 and likely NM 5. Beyond? We'll see.

Um, how's "he's insane"? Seriously, I think the real key to Legion's is his core personalty, David Haller. I'm sure we'll see him next issue. He wants to be fixed, I think, but that probably means destroying/merging the other personalities and I don't think they like that idea.

Yeah, but it's a little confusing because some of the personalities expressed interest in being fixed. However, everything points to revenge/prevention of being fixed as their motivation. Hopefully, number 4 will be a rousing conclusion and clear that up a little bit.

Number four is out!!! more mistreatment of dani. Illyana's written great though.


@ Arachne : <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">looks like dani's getting her valkyrie mojo back in dark avengers number 9 "utopia". she has a meeting with hela asking for a new ride and a big ol sword!!!</span></span>

I need to give it a closer reread, but it seemed like the storyline just sort of petered out.

I hope Cannonball doesn't continue to follow Cyclop's lead-- not a very positive choice in role models, currently. Magneto looks better and better...

yeah cyclops sucks. and emma frost too.

most of the x leaders have really been ruined...what happened to integration, peace, and not icing your opponents?

Yep, I read it, DB. But I do wonder, why a <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">sword?</span></span> New Mutants, Dark Wolverine and both Dani and Daken Dark Avengers. Good comic week.


I really thought Shan would have more to do in the ending, though. That's a bit disapointing, but at least Dani got some hits in.

Hopefully Dani will kick Sam in the right direction next month.

Yep. I would think Shan would have gotten more spotlighting as she's more of a telepath than Dani and an expert in possession. She should've had a few tricks up her sleeve while inside Legion.

Check out: Dark Avengers - Uncanny X-men Exodus <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Dani's deal with Hela is revealed, she basically hands Ares his Axe. And still no spear.....but a sword instead. She seems to be too suped up to have any good come out of her bargain with Hela. Making her a regular valkyrie would've sufficed in keeping Ares busy ... her apparent power levels seem way over the top.</span></span>

Rather than look for it, am I right that Dani will continue to appear in New Mutants, or is she moving over to another title?

I was pretty underwhelmed by that scene in DARK AVENGERS/UNCANNY X-MEN/EXODUS. Her entrance warranted a full page, I thought. And I felt cheated that we didn't see her fellow New Mutants' (and other X-characters') reaction to her transformation.

About the rest of the book- well, it made Cyclops look smart in a crafty sort of way, I suppose. And he's either too farshighted or too shortsighted. I'm not sure which.

Any bets on how long Utopia Island will stay afloat?

Or how much weight that 'Now we're *all* X-men' line will have? Namor, an ongoing X-man? Avalanche? Countless (actually, I suppose I know the #, but I'm not gonna repeat it) others?

The Necrosha preview was worth a look. I'm a bit more excited about it, as it doesn't seem to me to be as much of a BLACKEST NIGHT rip-off as it seems on the surface.

argh. i wanna see selene as a new muties villain before x force.

also, in the dark avengers/utopia/xmen/exodus thing i would think THE WALKING VOLCANO would have got a bit more action in against the dark xmen/avengers.

or dazzler who can shoot LASERS. or even northstar who take a bunch out a fools before they know whats what.

so yeah, cyke dosn't need to be so clever....or ask people to make deals with the she-devil.