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I loved him even way back when he was a coward fighting Count Nefaria... now THAT was THE AVENGERS.

Poor kids these days got Dr. Strange and Wolverine and Sentry and who knows what-else for "Avengers". That's sad.

ps/I don't care if what I said directly above is accurate or not... what matters is Wolverine sucks and therefore so does "The (not really) Avengers" team Marvel has tried to pass on us of late.

I've liked him too and loved his solo series in the 90's as well. When they killed him in the 90's, I was furious because that's when I thought those things stuck.

The first YA series brought back the good feeling I remember from reading AVENGERS as a kid... this current series, while very very good, is still hindered for me by the presence of Wolverine and the not-Avengers.

But *IF* things are made right with Wanda, I might reconsider that.

My issues with the current Avengers are similar to my issues with this Fantastic Four:




I can't help it, I'm old school. Does this mean I hate ALL Marvel changes?

I don't think so... DnA's all-different GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, for instance, was a longtime fave and I miss it.

I do kinda like that the guy who did that cover was tongue-in-cheek enough to call it 'The Worlds Most Commercialist Comic Magazine.'

Gosh. The Ghost Rider. He was popular once, I guess...

Nowadays it would be Wolverine, Spider-Man, Luke Cage and, uh, someone else... (Quick, I'm out of the loop, who'se the flavor of the month?)

heh heh... I never caught that bit... it IS cute.

Let's see, I'd guess either THOR or IRON MAN or CAPTAIN AMERICA for the new 4th, with the movies and whatnot.

I'd say it would be Wolvie, Spidey, Deadpool & Iron Man.

Thank goodness Gambit and Cable aren't still super-popular.

A Fantastic Four consisting of Cable, Deadpool, Gambit and Wolverine would pretty much be the four horsemen of my comic-book-reading apocalypse.

I would love to see a return to what was (in my opinion) the definitive Avengers line-up:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Vision
Scarlet Witch
Wasp
Yellowjacket
Beast
Wonder Man

To me, this line up embodied everything that the Avengers are supposed to be. The Avengers from issue 140-ish thru 210-ish were the best they've ever been as far as I'm concerned.

I am completely loving Childrens Crusade so far. I agree that most of the focus is on Wiccan, Hulkling and Speed, but considering the storyline how can it not? The search for the Scarlet Witch would impact those three characters the most, although there really should be more focus on Stature and her feelings on the matter, considering Wanda did kinda kill her father and stuff.

I really, really, really hope that this series can undue some of the damage done to Wanda by other writers who completely dis-assembled her character for the sake of plot. I would love this to end with Wanda restored to sanity and a part of her children's lives. Even if she ends up powerless, I don't care. The woman has suffered enough and deserves to be the mom she wanted to be.

(YOUNG) AVENGERS CHILDREN'S CRUSADE #6 of 9


These seem to be coming out irregularly.

However, this is IMO one the best, if not the best, comic out there right now.

Issue number 6, succinctly summarizes a few years now of plots.

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Including Wanda's point of view of Avengers Dissassembled that leaves me understanding her, in a she's only partly crazy but mostly was just severely grief stricken.

(oh yeah Wanda's finally back, and Hawkeye says at one point ... to Iron Man ... "She's fine, she's ... she's Wanda". It appears the previous Wanda in these stories was an impostor Doombot Doom created. yeah he's got issues ... trying to marry a Doombot)

The writers give us one very important thing beyond summarizes the events of several story arcs ... from way back in the 80s. 1) a sane and repentant Wanda who .... wait for it .... by the end of the story ... is bent on repairing the damage she's done with her awesome power to undo it ... to remutantize mutants, begining with Rictor. on the final page of the issue she appears successful.


Other major plot points wrapped up, William and Thomas are indeed her children. Thomas is a bit harder on his new mother than william but the end results of both interactions is touching as well as Ant Man 2 seeing his daughter Cassie in action and giant sized ... and being very proud. Unlike the tired dissapproving Parent on Superhero child reaction we see mostly.

Another particularly sweet moments are some Hawkeye + Hawkeye action on ... some Ultrons and Kree, that in the very first pages of the issue a repentant Wanda has conjured to kill herself (very jean grey dark phoenix 1980) lucky for us and mutantkind she decided not to thanks to Wiccan</span></span>

This issue swiftly summarizes and gives us answers to lingering plots, has a lot of tender moments, and the art of Cheung just gets better and better.

all that and tons of guest stars:

<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">X-Factor, X-Men, Jessica Jones, Magneto, Quicksilver and the Avengers rushing to confront Wanda (including ticked off Iron Man and Wolverine) but we will have to wait until issue 7 for that confrontation. </span></span>

And lately I've been feeling a bit jaded and tired of comics, not really loving much that i get ... but this one is a winner!

I enloy this series heaps. It's well worth the wait, though how events will synch up with MU continuity is a bit of a puzzler.

Still not buying Wanda's supposed motivations for the Disassembled attack.

I loved what happened to one of the guest stars, as that character's status was one that I found particularly sad.

I really hope YOUNG AVENGERS becomes an ongoing after this mini is over. These characters seem like veterans compared to all the newer teen heroes that have sprung up since the YA debuted.

Yeh, It's still more of a super villain's motivation or a she lost her crap motivation. How did she find out about William and Thomas anyways ... it seemed much after the fact and I doubt it was that one panel where the Wasp slips up. idk maybe it was gradual.


<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">scott lang ? </span></span>

yeah, i am very afraid <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">this great issue is some sort of alternate timeline or dream ... after thinking about it .. and all the guest stars ... and that it basically wraps up what has become the x-men books entire motivation (not so much integration anymore but the books are all about survival and a nation) </span></span>


and has Hawkeye really slept with EVERY Avenger ?

No <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Rictor and his being cut off from feeling/sensing the earth all around him </span></span>

that was cool too. (I mean the resolution of that) I hope it's true.

Oh, good-- I will hit the CBS for this ASAP. A title so wonderful I don't balk at the $3.99 pricetag.

While I like the 'corrections' going on, it's getting old that every new issue seems end on the reveal of yet another prominent individual (or *team*).

The book is very, very crowded, already.

It's a bit weird how many so-called heroes seem dead set against allowing for anything *good* to be done. They seem terribly invested in the wrongs of the past remaining un-resolved, so that they can continue justifying their own overreactions...

Wow, can you imagine the government / Initiative / Stark & Richard's reaction to 'a million mutants' regaining their powers, after they worked so hard to attempt to draft and control everyone with powers?

I'm blown away by how epic this story is becoming!

The Wanda / Billy scene in #6 got me a little choked up!

Finally got around to reading # 6.

By far, the best comic being published. Nothing else comes close.

Am I to understand Rictor and Shatterstar are a couple these days? That's HOT. I might need to check out some X-FACTOR...

Assuming everything at face value and it isn't not some hoax/dream/imaginary story, I am SO pleased to see good things happen for Wanda after the awfulness of DISASSEMBLED.

I had no idea she wiped out mutant powers. Funny how apparently no primary X-men were affected.

Art is as beautiful as the story. I'd pay $5 an issue for this book by this team (high praise indeed coming from me these days), and gladly wait as long as they needed for this kind of quality. Comics aren't made this good anymore anywhere, sadly.

Any word at all on # 7? It's getting pretty close to 3 months now...

Due this week :

Mucho gracias!! Love this book

except for the delays.

Hasn't it been pretty much on time, having always been solicited as bi-monthly?

It's more like a bi-monthly plus a few weeks, heh heh. This book is worth the wait though.