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Re: Young Avengers & Children's Crusade
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Unless we've got (more) time travel or rapid-aging, there is a severely screwed up origin at work here.

Oh, and the Scarlet Witch turning up in Billy's origin is looking less and less of a coinky-dink.


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I haven't read it but it sounds awesome.

William and Thomas huh? heh. I love it!

And Kang has hit a new low <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">spying on Luke and Jessica??? C'mon Kang! Next he will be a DD villain! Or Moon Knight? Though a Moon Knight/Kang battle through time sound awesome! damn Bendis!</span></span>

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Hang on...weren't Wanda and the Vision's kids illusions conjured up by Agatha Harkness?

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#497266 02/10/06 07:57 AM
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YOUNG AVENGERS 10

Counterparts for Wonder Man and Ms. Marvel to come? That portrait *did* seem meaningfully placed. Or maybe it's the *number* that's important. Eli and Billy are counting off Young Avengers. They reach 'five', then six with Vision, with one possibly added this issue. There are 10 Avengers in the portrait. Are there four more on their way? They'd be handy in the upcoming Kree/Skrull war. Or would they be a detriment as untested newbies? Or, worse, would they be cannon fodder?

I loved the Vision in this issue. Cheung's gleaming, shiny Vision is a variation that I like for this character. Though I appreciate the sentiment involved and the characterization it reflects, I was kind of disappointed when the Vision reverted back to his historic look, for the sake of Cassie's feelings.

It made *me* smile to see the Vision smile when he heard those magic words, "So, are you coming or not?" Don't all of our lives hinge on variations of that simple sentence?

Thomas and Billy as the twin sons of the Scarlet Witch and the Vision? Won't that be weird? Having a father and his sons on the same team, with all of them looking, and possibly behaving, the same age?

Hulkling seems more and more likely to be the son of Marvel's most famous Captain Marvel. Therefore, also brother to Photon of the Thunderbolts.

Both origins are satisfactory, if you squint and ignore the timing thing. As long as Franklin Richards is around, all the 'second generation' heroes and the timing of their births are going to be screwy, I'm afraid.

I'm kind of hoping there's a twist involved with one or both of these Avenger/Young Avenger connections.

I love this title. I really hope an Inhuman joins this team. That'd make it perfect. That and a young Asgardian or Olympic godling.

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LAM, or by the Scarlet Witch herself I thought...and she might be at it again. I don't think the Vision ever had much to do with the "twins" except Wanda wanted children.

This issue rocked! I hope this Vision never becomes the old Vision. I like the new blood.

For a moment I thought Hulking was the son of the Super Skrull but I guess not.

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Another stellar issue. I wish all the team books I read gave me this feeling.


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#497269 02/16/06 05:54 AM
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Anyone know what's up with this title? I haven't seen it in Marvel's last two monthly solicits. Maybe they figure it's best not to solicit it, that way if it shows up, great, and if it doesn't, no one will know any better.


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Blame Heinywood... :rolleyes:


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#497271 02/17/06 05:41 AM
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Ok, so we have apparent twins where one has magical powers and the white-haired one is a cocky speedster... the connection's obvious, but I'm still not sure how. It should be fun to find out.

Having this Vision be a byproduct of Kang rather than Ultron this time around is an interesting twist. I'll miss the old Vizh though frown

I think whatsername should call herself "Ladyhawk" hehe...

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Young Avengers #12 cover

Despite there being no YA12 solicit for May, ComicNewsI included the YA12 cover in their solicit-covers gallery, implying it was pulled from the solicits pretty late...


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#497273 02/19/06 07:03 AM
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Please tell me that Wolverine is NOT joining the Young Avengers... wink


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#497274 02/19/06 08:05 AM
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Spellbinder, I doubt he well...but what about...X-23 or whatever her name is!!! The teenager female version of Wolverine. argh!!!!!

Keep Young Avengers old school. wink

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#497275 02/19/06 02:41 PM
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She still doesn't have a codename? They are building up to something grand- my bet is Hawkeye.

So do we know if any of these kids are classified as mutants? As for them being the next gen Avengers, I didn't realize the team formed 15-18 yrs ago. I thought Marvel had a sort of 10yr rule.


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#497276 02/20/06 06:35 AM
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Yeah, I didn't like that myself. NO WAY the Kree/Skrull War was 14 years ago. That puts the MU at being waaaay too old. I guess I'm not really too concerned though...whenever comics try to set the ages of any member of any series, only trouble comes out of it.

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There is always the possibility that Wanda's children were not products of her hex powers, and were in fact shunted off through time to begin new lives. That would explain things, as well as keep the Marvel timeline intact.

As for Teddy, who's to say that Skrulls (or Kree for that matter) age at the same rate that Earthlings do? And couldn't his mom/nurse have altered his memory somehow? Maybe he was only born a handful of years ago, but his alien heritage (or his powers) makes him physically look 16ish.

I really hope that they don't kill off Tommy. I would hate to see a new character show up only to end up as cannon fodder. Besides, I have a thing for twin twinks wink

And how much did I love seeing Teddy and Billy's embrace? Nothing overtly sexual... just a little display of emotion to show how much they mean to each other and how worried they were. It's the little touches that go a long way.

I will be interested to see how Patriot handles his lack of powers in the coming war. Granted, there are other non-powered heroes out there, but where they have combat/gymnastic training, I'm not sure what he has to fall back on.

All in all, still loving this book!!!


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#497278 02/23/06 03:00 PM
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Well crap.

There's a Wonder Woman interview with Heinberg over on Newsarama, and in it he says that Young Avengers is now bi-monthly.

I hope that doesn't last too long. I need my monthly YA fix! frown


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I don't even think he's capable of maintaining a bi-monthly schedule. tongue

This book's coming off my preorders and I'll wait for the trades. Screw that.

And Joe Q wonders why people are complaining about "industry" people coming in to write comics? Because comics will always take a back seat to their "real" jobs, meaning what pays better. Somebody writing comics as their livelyhood is going to be more conscientious about sticking to schedule.

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But do we know for certain that it's Heinberg's fault that the book's late? I mean, no disrespect to any writer's out there, but how long can it really take to fire off a script for a single issue?


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Several times now in his "Joe Fridays" columns,Joe Q has pretty much stated it's not the art-- the book's at the mercy of Heinberg's "dayjob".

And now DC's giving him free reign to do the same with Wonder Woman??? We'll be lucky to see 4-5 issues of each a year...


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#497282 02/24/06 07:14 AM
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Please don't tell me I'm gonna have to start reading the Joe Fridays column... wink


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No, it's all right, Cru; I'll do your dirty work... wink hug lol


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From Marvel's first panel of the NYCC--

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Asked what the future for Young Avengers is, Brevoort said that Allan Heinberg is in it for the long haul, but is committed to his television work, saying that the series will wind down through its current run, and restart early next year. No issue numbers were given.
The editor also announced that there will be a Runaways/Young Avengers crossover mini-series coming during Civil War.


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Joe Q shared an email form Allan Heinberg in this week's Co'J column at Newsarama:

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"Young Avengers has been without a doubt the creative highlight of my writing life thus far. So when it seemed as if my outstanding TV and film commitments were going to force me to leave the book after YA #12, I was blown away when the good people at Marvel very generously offered to do for Young Avengers what they had done for The Ultimates and Astonishing X-Men by granting the book a brief hiatus and allowing YA artist and co-creator Jim Cheung and myself some much needed time to catch up.

"Having read far too many message boards, I know some readers and retailers are understandably frustrated by the book's erratic publishing schedule, and for that I cannot apologize enough. But the truth is, Young Avengers is an extremely labor-intensive book for everyone involved, and what we've all discovered is, it simply takes the time it takes. Jim puts his heart and soul into every panel of every page, and I have a regrettable but unavoidable tendency to rewrite every script at least five times, if not more. It's who we are - and it's why the book is what it is.

"Jim and I certainly wish we could produce it monthly, but we can't and maintain its current quality. So, Marvel had a choice. They could either turn the book over to another creative team or they could break all the rules of publishing and give us the time we need to do the book to the best of our ability. And miraculously, that's what they've chosen to do.

"So, needless to say, I'm so grateful to Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada and publisher Dan Buckley for allowing Jim and me to fulfill our vision for the book, and to our readers for being so passionate and so very patient."
P.S.-- the YA/Runaways Civil War mini will be written by neither Heinberg nor Brian K. Vaughan, but both will be collaborating extensively with the as-yet-unannounced writer.

And the mini is meant to act as a bridge between YA "season 1" and the eventual relaunch.


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I dunno.

I *love* YA... it's posssibly the best team book on the market right now...

But I am *not* supportive of this it-comes-out-when-it-comes-out, even-if-that's-only-twice-a-year nonsense.


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