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Re: Young Avengers & Children's Crusade
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Originally posted by KidChaos: Originally posted by Harbinger: [b] Knightress??? Too much like Night Dress for my liking.
Phaah! Ba-a-ad codename alert! I'd actually prefer "Hawkingbird" to "Knightress"[/b]Totally agreed. I do like the code-name "Wiccan" though. Glad to see I haven't missed an issue; I noticed its been a while since I got a new YA.
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Milligan and Allred beat out Heinberg for the number of gays on a team, though-- X-FORCE/X-STATIX had three in its run: Bloke, Phat & Vivisector! Though Bloke was killed early on.
It was interesting (and realistic) how Phat and Vivisector developed: let's pretend we're gay to get some limelight... uh oh, we're naked in bed together... maybe we ARE really gay?... no, I'm not gay, YOU are... Okay, so we're both gay, just not attracted to each other.
But apparently Hulkling and Asgardian have been together for a while. This is going to be a plot to watch, for sure!
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Did #6 feel a bit padded? Lots of character moments but they felt S-T-R-E-T-C-H-E-D Kate Bishop stands out still, and Patriot seems to be developing into his role (which seems to be akin to the Ultimate's Cap/Fury). I still don't understand Hulkling or his parentage. Or, for that matter, Wiccan. And I don't know about Cassie's new codename. This might be the last issue I pick up.
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I liked this issue-- though I don't really care for Asgardian's new codename at all. My first reaction to his new costume isn't too positive, but one panel really isn't enough to judge.
The parent issues will be addressed over the next two issues. Hopefully, there won't be long waits. I think that cuts down on interest quite a bit.
Still one of my favorite titles.
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What is Hulkling's new codename?
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He's still called Hulkling.
I really did enjoy this issue. Even though they got rid of my favorite character. *sob!!* I'm excited to see where it goes from here.
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I am really really not into Cassie's new codename - "Stature"?? ugh. And I'm not totally sure I got the joke about Asgardian's name -- was she saying they might call him "Ass Guardian"? (if so, it's a tad weak, if not a bit offensive)
I hope the kids enlist the Vision's aid. There has to be a followup with him sometime. He doesn't seem all there, the way he was standing like a statue, talking kinda robotic-like. What's he even been doing for the weeks before they reformed the team?
The loss of Iron Lad will be a blow, but things are just starting for these kids so I'll definitely be there to see what Heinberg has in mind.
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Originally posted by DrakeB3004: I am really really not into Cassie's new codename - "Stature"?? ugh. What would you prefer? Giant-Girl? Originally posted by DrakeB3004: I hope the kids enlist the Vision's aid. There has to be a followup with him sometime. He doesn't seem all there, the way he was standing like a statue, talking kinda robotic-like. What's he even been doing for the weeks before they reformed the team? Right now, I think Vision's back where he was after VisionQuest, despite the new-Kang-body - i.e., between his Ultronic meltdown, getting ripped in half by She-Hulk and being left to rot in a crate for months, he'd suffered "brain damage" by the time Young Kang uploaded him into his armour. And I think, thus, that he's going to be a fellow trainee with the YAs, rather than a Red Tornado-style mentor.
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How did the Young Avengers idea come about? Hulkling? Asgardian? Iron Lad? What happened to the original team?
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Originally posted by Reboot: What would you prefer? Giant-Girl? No no ... it's Gi Ant-Girl, to honor her father . Or how's about: - Girl Tower - Big Mama - Little Big Girl - Step On Ya Lass
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Well, # 6 pretty much confirmed for me that YOUNG AVENGERS is now my favorite title.
The art is superb, and I find myself actually dreading the fill-in art next issue. Usually fill-ins don't worry me.
I do think Iron Lad will be back, sooner or later.
I found the "Asgardian" name comment to be quite hilarious and unexpected. And true. VERY true, they were wise to change it.
Kate really is takin' charge. Groovy.
I think I dig the new costumes too.
The name "Stature" I'm less thrilled with. Yes, "Giant-Grl" *would* have been a better choice. FAR better.
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wiccan and hulkling are so cute in civies!
except...why the big deal about changing costumes, they look the same but less detailed.
giant girl would have been better.
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Wiccan and Hulkling ARE cute, aren't they? Twink City!
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i have a theory that pencillers that draw cute boys...are cute.
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I think Cassie is going to be like Kitty Pryde in terms of code-names. No matter what code name she has, she'll be referred to by her given name.
As far as jokes on Asgardian's name. I was thinking As-gay-ian. Although I like Ass Guardian too. I don't think Wiccan is any better of a code-name. "Enchanter" maybe?
And will Kate have a code name? I can't think of a good one for her.
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Kate -- Archer?
"Wiccan" doesn't seem right to me. Maybe because it seems kinda trendy, maybe because he doesn't seem to have done any studying of wicca to gain his abilities, he just waves his hands and wishes things (I *really* hope they explain that soon). Might as well call him "Wishmaster" or "Genie". I wonder if he has a "there's no place like home, there's no place like home..." scene coming up.
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too bad Arsenal is taken for kate. Armory...i like Archer too. Paladin 2? she wears purple.
i agree with drake on the wiccan thing...dosnt have the right sense.
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Loved this issue, and this continues to be my favorite Marvel comic. I'm loving all the characters and the ongoing interactions between all of them. I'm definately looking forward to more of the Vision next issue and his role in the team, and I'm hoping that Iron Lad will show up once more (I figure probably in a years time or so, once they've established a new sense of group dynamic with him no longer involved, which will screw it all up ). I think Wiccan/Asgardian is my favorite member. I like his relationship with Hulking--I guess after this issue, it's not much of a mystery anymore! Great scenes with Patriot, Kate and Cassie too. Seeing the five of them develop as friends will be the best part of this title, methinks.
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For myself, I'm still trying to figure out if there's any way the time-travel stuff could make sense. In a world where the Thing can go back and cure his younger self without actually changing anything for himself, this doesn't exactly make sense.
And does Patriot strike anyone as a leader-wannabe who isn't actually the one everyone else follows? Before it was Nate who was the real leader, now it's Kate, but he still thinks he's the one in charge.
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I love this title and I think Asgardian and Hulkling are an adorable couple.
As far as the leadership goes, it does seem as if Kate will be the leader if only by action. See what developes between her and Patriot will also be worth watching.
Did anyone notice Kate's coment about connections in the fashion industry? that could have been a throwaway line or... maybe she has some connection to Jan Pym? That would rock!
Now i want to see them face Ultron!
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Matt, good call! I didn't catch that at first, and a connection to the Wasp would be awesome!
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I wonder what Thor would think of the 'Ass-guardian' joke?
I hope Billy goes back to Asgardian shortly after Thor makes his comeback in 2006.
Mattropolis, that fashion industry comment made me curious about a connection to Janet Van Dyne, too. Especially after glancing through next week's PULSE (the Jessica Jones book).
Maybe Cassie will come to Ms. Van Dyne's attention through Kate, leading to the Wasp taking Stature under her wing, so to speak. Or else causing Jan to prod Hank Pym into mentoring Cassie.
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Although on the one hand I like the idea of a couple of the Old Avengers mentoring the kids, in a way I think I would rather they not. I want this book to start focusing now on just the Young Avengers. I'm okay with the Vision hanging around, although it's a little too much like Red Tornado and Young Justice. Add me to the list of people loving AsgardiWiccan and Hulking. They really are a cute couple. And they are funny, too! I hope this title will be able to mix the themes of "young heroes in training" and "teens being teens." I want to see Cassie and Kate going to the mall, and Wic' and 'Ling going to the movies... stuff like that. The next two issues are supposed to focus on the kids' private lives, I think, so maybe we'll see some of that. That was the secret to the Teen Titans success, I think. I was a superhero book, but you also got the feeling that these kids were also friends. That's what I'd like to see happen here. Oh... and a poster. I'd like to see a Young Avengers poster
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Hmmm...interesting thought about Janet. That could be very possible. Cru, there is a Young Avengers poster. It was a promo for the new series...a repro of the artwork from issue #1. Happened to see it at my CBS this weekend. Regarding the new names: I also don't care for Wiccan unless they develope a connection by exploring his background and the development of his powers. Spellcaster would be a better choice (probably shortened by the group to 'Caster) I really, REALLY don't like Stature however. Yuck! I would much rather see her named GiAnt (not necessarily with "Girl" on the end) than this. At least that honors her father, which is her motivation. Patriot and Hunkling are fine as names and I would think that Quiver would be a good choice for Kate, though I like Paladin a lot as well. I too hope we see Nate again down the road, I fear however that we will see him as a young Kang as an ongoing nemesis for the team. Have to admit that it would provide some real angst for them to have to battle him, knowing who he was ~ their founder! Add me to the list that really likes 'Caster and 'Ling as a couple. And yes, they are hotties!
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Originally posted by Vee: Spellcaster would be a better choice (probably shortened by the group to 'Caster) I'm willing to let them use Spellbinder And I think it's so cute how Wic' casts spells: IwannacreateawallofflamesIwannacreateawallofflamesIwannacreateawallofflamesIwannacreateawallofflames
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