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Re: Young Avengers & Children's Crusade
#497038 04/15/05 12:55 AM
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Here's a link to the cover for #6 but be warned it does have BIG SPOILERS (possibly).

http://www.newsarama.com/Marvel/youngavengers6.htm

One of the spoilers isn't really that much of a spoiler, but potentially there is another big one (although it's a cover so it could just be a bit misleading).


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If the cover is true, then I'm really going to miss that character. Of all the guys, he was my favorite, personality wise and in looks.

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I like that Kate is going to have an ongoing, apparently very active role in the book, and wasn't just a minor recurring character for a few issues. At least, that's how it's looking from that cover.

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It'll be interesting to see Kate in costume (assuming a torn gown isn't it).

The cover makes me wonder if....
S......I......H......S......C
P......F......A......E......O
O.............V......E......V
I......Y......E......N......E
L......O......N.............R
E......U......'......T
R.............T......H
S....................E


maybe the ramnants of Iron Lad's armor might be used to bring back the Vision's physical form? (he'd be a great advisor/mentor to the kids)

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What about the other character revealed on the cover? Too soon to bring back a Young Avengers version?

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#497043 04/15/05 09:43 AM
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I think that handbag that Asgardian is carrying is just darling laugh


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#497044 04/16/05 03:26 PM
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POSSIBLE # 6 SPOILER CHAT FOLLOWS
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Isn't issue # 6 a little early to be killing off founding members and starting "startling new directions"?

Also, I'm not crazy about another bow & arrow chick-- I'd much prefer she be a gadget-using Black Widowesque character!

All that said, I'm still excited about the book... after 2 issues it has a "feel" to it that I really like, and I am in general a fan of cast changes and "not knowing what to expect", so this may end up being hella-kewl.


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#497045 04/17/05 03:10 PM
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I don't think they'd kill that character off after just going through so much to introduce him. Besides, we've seen hundreds of misleading covers like this before.

Good to see the girls involved though!

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Lash: If you'll note, Kate has a bow and arrow, a sword, and a baton on her leg. She's picked over the bones of dead Avengers' gear, so she's not exactly 'gadget using', but she's got a number of tricks. wink

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#497047 04/18/05 03:49 AM
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Who is the bow & arrow check. As much as I wanna hate Marvel right now this book may bring me back.

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#497048 04/18/05 03:51 AM
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A good name for the bow & arrow girl would be Mockingbird IMO. wink But if she takes the name Hawkeye..I being always for the new...won't complain.

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Who is the bow & arrow check. As much as I wanna hate Marvel right now this book may bring me back.
We don't know yet. That is supposed to be her first issue. As long as she isn't called Hawkette I'll reserve judgement.

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If this was DC, then she would be the child of Hawkeye and Mockingbird that no one has ever heard of before. Then she could call herself "Hawkingbird" laugh


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I don't think they'd kill that character off after just going through so much to introduce him. Besides, we've seen hundreds of misleading covers like this before.

Good to see the girls involved though!
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YOUNG AVENGERS #5
Written by ALLAN HEINBERG
Pencils and Cover by JIM CHEUNG
"SIDEKICKS"
Who ARE the Young Avengers? Discover their deepest secrets in this issue! In the penultimate chapter of "Sidekicks," the Young Avengers are finally forced to reveal the true nature of their powers as their battle with Kang the Conqueror becomes a fight to the death -- and that’s not hyperbole! But will the team survive its first fatality? Part 5 (of 6).

YOUNG AVENGERS #6
Written by ALLAN HEINBERG
Pencils & Cover by JIM CHEUNG
The 6-part SIDEKICKS story arc comes to a shattering conclusion when the Young Avengers lose one of their founding members, a new member arrives on the scene, and the entire team undergoes a radical transformation. It's a surprising new direction for the Young Avengers as they battle Kang, the Avengers, and each other to ensure the team's survival.
32 PGS./T+ SUGGESTED FOR TEENS AND UP …$2.99
Looks fairly consistant to me.


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If this was DC, then she would be the child of Hawkeye and Mockingbird that no one has ever heard of before. Then she could call herself "Hawkingbird" laugh
Or "Mockeye"! laugh


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Well, I can see the following easiliy happening (that is to say, it's also equally as likely that the character dead on the cover is dead):

-it's a trick and a different character is the one that bites it.

-Iron Lad lives on in the series through the Vision's involvement in the MU or as Kang as the main bad-guy all series. I think it would be much more interesting to have him in the group for both those reasons though. I think Heinberg is too smart to kill off the most interesting character so early.

I guess we'll have to see though. I do like how they're wasting no time getting Cassie Lang involved.

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maybe the "bow and arrow chick" is taskmaster's good daughter??? hunh any takers. nope, just a random offspring of hawkeye, black widow, or maybe the swordsman and mantis had a baby. that would be cool.

i don't mind how they killed off tony, especially if he may become the group's arch nemesis as kang.

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actually, who has kids running around out there?

is luna still alive, quicksilver and crystal's kid? maybe a mutant will make it on the team.

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Luna's still around as far as I know. I don't recall: has Luna shown any sort of powers yet?

I know whatshisface (Nomad, or used to be called Nomad) had a daughter.


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Luna would actually be a great choice as the next member. So far, they are goin in order of Avengers membership.

Hulk - Hulkling
Iron Man - Iron Lad
Captain America - Patriot
Thor - Asgardian
Cassie - Hank/Jan/Scott
Kate - Hawkeye

Next on the list should be Quicksilver or Wanda.
So Luna does make perfect sense.


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Well, we know this about Luna:

1. She is a human with no powers. Her mutant genes and inhuman genes cancelled each other out, so the first pairing of the two 'races' resulted in a human baby.

2. She's still very, very young. Not a baby, but barely old enough to be in grade school IIRC.

Still, she has one of the coolest families in comics and always makes for good stories!

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hmmm i didn't even notice the young avengers were assembling in order. cool.

well, cassie grew up real fast so maybe luna has too, except the lack of powers would be troublesome. maybe she's just a mutant taht needs to go through puberty first, or was that ixnay'ed. and the vis and wanda's kids disappeared. might be the start of an otherdimesional/othertime adventure if one of the twins somehow made it on the team.

remember spider woman, the one from secret wars had a girl too. but since spider woman was altered her daughter couldn't have inherited powers that way.

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Actually, I don't think they are going in order of membership. Captain America wasn't a founding member of the Avengers, was he? I'm thinking he didn't join until issue 4 or something. As far as Cassie and Teen Hawkeye go, I think their membership has more to do with who died in Disassembled, rather than order of original Avengers membership.

Of course, I could be wrong. It's happened before wink


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Is anyone else slightly curious as to how this book mimics Young Justice.

Start with the practically identical name based off the BIG team of the respective universe.

Young Justice: teen sidekicks / young counterparts
Young Avengers: young counterparts

Young Justice: 3 boys joined by 2 girls
Young Avengers: 4 boys (soon to be 3) joined by 2 girls

Young Justice: mentored by Red Tornado (an artificial intelligence)
Young Avengers: we have yet to determine if they will be mentored by the Vision (an artificial intelligence) --which I think would be cool

Hmmm, when I was coming up with this argument -it seemed like there were more similarities. tongue

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Speaking of Luna I always imagined her being an archer down the line. Why? Her being named Luna has a mythological connection with some moon goddesses...namely Diana/Artemis. Goddess of the moon and hunt. So Luna's hair turns white like daddy's and she becomes a gothic archer. Call me silly. wink

The Mantis idea is a good one. If she's the bitchy hostage from #1 she seemed asian to me. I hope Asgardian is asian. Kinda ironic IMO.

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