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Re: Young Avengers & Children's Crusade
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(duh. I thought VU said "Who's what?" :rolleyes: ) Irving Forbush is the SA Marvel mascot, Forbush Man! Much like the Ma Hunkel (Golden Age) Red Tornado, Irv ran around with a pot over his head. The rest of his get-up was fuzzy red longjohns and a blue blanket for a cape. And NO, I don't seriously think Iron Lad is a revamped Forbush Man...
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Minor Spoiler * * * * * * * * * Wow! Bendis has really retro'd Jessica Jones into a big time player in the Marvel U. Gotta admit, I really like her and am stoked to be seeing so much of her. I'd love to see her play a big role in YA and it looks like she just might.
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Someone please tell me who Jessica Jones/Jewel is. I've never heard of her.
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I don't remember either! She's not Diamondback, is she? I saw the costume in the flashback, and it's not striking a chord.
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She's from the ALIAS series, and I think she's a retcon. Couldn't Marvel use some Z-list superheroine?
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She is from ALIAS and The Pulse (is that still being published?). And she was a Bendis retcon. In the last few issues of ALIAS he went as far as showing her as a teen interacting with (IIRC) pre-Spidey Peter Parker and other 60's created heroes.
Jessica has a history with the Avengers (one of the new What If's? covered it) but I'm not sure exactly what her power is/was nor what, if any, costumed name she had.
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Here's a thought. Did she get a write-up in the recent Women of Marvel Universe Handbook? If she's not in that one she should have at least been mentioned in the Daredevil edition.
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can someone spill the beans please....
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Jessica had a write-up in the Daredevil OHOTMU. She had super-strength and can fly, but her ability to land is terrible. She called herself Jewel and then Knightress. After spending something like a year under Purple Man's mind control, she realized she wasn't cut out for super-heroics. She retired and became a PI, which leads to ALIAS. During the series, she comes to terms with her past failures and becomes pregnant by Luke Cage, who is now her boyfriend. (At the time she found out she was pregnant, she was dating Ant-Man; he subsequently dumped her, even though she didn't even know him when she got pregnant.)
Once ALIAS ended, I lost track of her. There was a certain mood to that book that I didn't think would transfer well over to a mainstream Marvel book. Plus, she stopped being a PI. She works for J. Jonah Jameson and, IIRC, covers topics relating to super-heroes.
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That pretty much sums it up. Also, in the panel in YA where it shows a picture of her in costume, there's a small who's who written about her which says just about what ferroboy said.
I liked her because she was by no means perfect. Tons of character flaws which just made me love her more. I'm thrilled that she's become a player.
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Originally posted by Just Pov: She's from the ALIAS series, and I think she's a retcon. Couldn't Marvel use some Z-list superheroine? Yeah, the only reason she exists is because Marvel wouldn't let Bendis use Jessica Drew as the main character in Alias. From what I've heard about the series, thank Zod for that. Of course she's under his hands now in New Avengers so I don't have high hopes.
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Alias is a problem I have with Bendis. He is always dissing lower tier/obscure characters or straight out has them killed off. Mentions how low certain characters sell.
Yet Alias, Luke Cage, Spider-Woman...all lower tier...none can sell a title...and he treats them like royalty. How much does Pulse sell? Is he going to add Wolverine and Spidey to that? Heck I think Spidey may be a guest star every issue and it still doesn't sell.
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Ok since you all want to know... Iron Lad is
S P O I L E R
S P A C E
A teen-ager from the 30th Century named Kang!
The first issue is really good, and there's potential for a great series here... And it's definitely not a rip-off of the Teen Titans, like some people have been claiming even before the comic book was released.
Ze Frainch Legion fan
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It was a decent enough read w/ pretty art... I'm on board for 3 to 6 issues as a trial.
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Same here, Lash. It didn't totally grab me but I'm interested enough to see where things are going.
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I liked this alot more than I thought I would-- at least once it featured the Young Avengers instead of those reporters. I instantly liked Hulkling and the Asgardian-- so the series is *bound* to feature Iron Lad and the Patriot for the next 5 years. Still doesn't overcome my current distaste for things Avenger... though I'll buy it for the foreseeable future. Where's the Young Avenger girls? The lack of female participation (though I, too, wonder about Hulkling...) surprised me more than anything else. Though I like Asgardian, this might've been a good place for the Samantha Parrington Valkyrie to turn up... it doesn't *sound* like she'll be involved in the upcoming Keith Giffen DEFENDERS. The last page cliffhanging reveal approached, though didn't quite equal, the 'shockers' that were featured in THUNDERBOLTS and RUNAWAYS. Definitely piqued my interest... I thought this series was quite 'Legionesque'. My cbs owner thought I'd think so, and I did. I read in an interview that the writer is a big fan of TITANS and LEGION, and I think it shows. Though the book isn't a direct analog to either, supposedly.
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Originally posted by Mystery Lad: I read in an interview that the writer is a big fan of TITANS and LEGION, and I think it shows. Maybe he was the one responsible for those "Dream Crime" issues popping up on "The O.C."
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Most probably. he's the comic book fan writer in the OC anyway...
But what I like about the comic book so far is that it's not a Legion or Teen Titans rip-off, as some people have presented it... I'm very curious about where it's going and I hope it survives 12 issues.
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If anything, it reminds me of "Slingers". They all took Spidey's temporary id's without his knowledge, they bicker like teens, tend to screw up and there's a secret villain plot behind their formation.
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Well, I have to say I liked this a lot more than I thought I would. I’ll definitely be giving it a year trial period, but will most likely collect it throughout.
Iron Lad’s revelation was pretty cool IMO. It definitely reminded me of the Thunderbolts (although the revelation in Thunderbolts #1 is without a doubt the best “Holy Shit!” moment in a long time). The revelation in this issue caught me off guard and has hooked me for wanting more. Supposedly, there are a few more major revelations in the early issues of the series, and will be one every issue or so.
I’m glad that all the characters are supposed to have some connection to Avengers continuity. Like most of you, I’m still disgusted by Avengers Dissassembled and still don’t think Young Avengers or New Avengers is a suitable replacement—but I’m glad that this is at least connected to the old Avengers. I wonder what the connection the other three have?
I anticipate there will be girl members soon enough, and they will cause major drama among the team (along the same lines that any fan of the OC will recognize).
Overall, I surprisingly liked it.
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Just got my issue in my monthly shipment and read it. I'm surprised no one mentioned that the one member using a code name with "Lad" is from the 30th century. I laughed out loud.
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Originally posted by Lightning Lad: the one member using a code name with "Lad" is from the 30th century. I laughed out loud. Word.
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I have enjoyed this much more than the trash called "New Avengers". I'm intrigued by all the characters, although Patriot still hasn't really done much for me.
I really like Asgardian and Hulkling though. And the arrival of the young ladies looks promising as well. I would like to see Jan become their mentor though.
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